DUST Search - Vechile need to be remove from Ambush.

Poplo Furuya wrote:

oso tiburon wrote:

SENATOR KODOS wrote:

oso tiburon wrote:

ok let me rephrase that ... the stupidest thing i have ever heard ... remove all vehicles so we can then have call of duty size maps with call of duty type gameplay ... hey lets all just run around ar's and smgs no skirmish no domo just team death match thats soooo original .... gtfo go back to black ops scrub or spec into swarms like every one else god im so sick of the stupidity

Once again you make no sense.
Im not saying remove them because they are good.
Im saying remove them because they are useless lol derp more derp.

once again they do serve a purpose derp herp
they serve as armored transport across large open areas they serve as infantry support they serve as a distraction for other enemy infantry they serve as area denile ... shall i go on .. like i said cod ghosts is out go give that a spin this game is far beyond your grasp

I think his phrasing was just unfortunate and you got off on the wrong tack.

What he actually meant was probably just that Dust, as it is, clearly is not a game that has been designed around the presence of vehicles and the potential dynamics they bring. Their being there is incidental to the present game, they aren't fundamental to it.

This is a problem and one which I for one don't think CCP have properly understood or perhaps even acknowledged.

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Cordera Ray Galactic Warrior Corporation 17	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:18:00 - [1] - Quote This is a Team Death Match, there should be no vehicle or tank or dropship what so ever in that game mode. It cater too ppl that cant do a simple thing or cant use ur gun to kill ppl,or run around in the map finding ppl and killing them, but they relied on the vehicle to get high kill without a death, boost there k/d up and try to get a good score (really). Ever time u try to either destroyed it with anti rocket here the option 1.he will drive away once he aware that he being target by a Anti Rocket, 2. he will drive up close to u he will jump out and shoot u.3.depend what suit he is using most of time it will be either a heavy suit or proto shot gunner, 4 Simple thing Run ur ** over. LAV need to be Remove all they do is call them up and get in them drive around and run ur ** over. I know it happen too a lot of u so don't try to denied that It never happen to u before. The Tank, If the enemy team get 2 or 3 tank in the game, the game is over regardless of the outcome on how u play and finish it. Unless there was a miracle that happen that ur team was smart enough to get the rocker out and start firing away but there a catch to that, u know how everytime u lock on to the tank and once u fire the first shot that tank will just either run away and get to cover or if he player has some balls he will just blast u away or his team will cover firing him. Which is so damn lame. Tank need to be Remove from Ambush. Why would a Dropship be in a team death match game unless they provide Air support. Team Death Match game is a straight up Gun on Gun match , hover the sky putting sniper on very disadvantage places so the can shoot us at vulnerable spot and every time u try to blast them away they will either fly high or hide behind building. Seriously they need to be remove from ambush. Now if u remove these three from the Ambush Completely, Ambush will be a better game mode and it will be alot smoother. A Straight up Team vs Team, Gun vs Gun ur done. I know a lot of ppl hate getting run over by LAV or getting slaughter by a Tank or Getting blasted by Above with a Drop ship. So let the hate begin.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1681	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:22:00 - [2] - Quote tl;dr no.
Shadowswipe WarRavens League of Infamy 133	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:26:00 - [3] - Quote What if that is how the enemy ambushed you in the first place? I say give one side 10 LAVs from the start... that is where they first spawn into, a moving LAV.
SENATOR KODOS Absentee AFK Regiment 222	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:27:00 - [4] - Quote Vehicles shouldnt even be in this game period. They serve no purpose.
oso tiburon The Generals EoN. 56	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:30:00 - [5] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: Vehicles shouldnt even be in this game period. They serve no purpose. that has to be the biggest QQ ever i mean wow
SENATOR KODOS Absentee AFK Regiment 222	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:33:00 - [6] - Quote oso tiburon wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: Vehicles shouldnt even be in this game period. They serve no purpose. that has to be the biggest QQ ever i mean wow I like when people us QQ wrong lolderp.
Xender17 Intrepidus XI Omega Commission 204	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:34:00 - [7] - Quote oso tiburon wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: Vehicles shouldnt even be in this game period. They serve no purpose. that has to be the biggest QQ ever i mean wow Agreed
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 2176	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:36:00 - [8] - Quote Someone complaining about dropships? OMG, the impossible has occurred.
oso tiburon The Generals EoN. 56	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:36:00 - [9] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: oso tiburon wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: Vehicles shouldnt even be in this game period. They serve no purpose. that has to be the biggest QQ ever i mean wow I like when people us QQ wrong lolderp. ok let me rephrase that ... the stupidest thing i have ever heard ... remove all vehicles so we can then have call of duty size maps with call of duty type gameplay ... hey lets all just run around ar's and smgs no skirmish no domo just team death match thats soooo original .... gtfo go back to black ops scrub or spec into swarms like every one else god im so sick of the stupidity
Xender17 Intrepidus XI Omega Commission 204	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:39:00 - [10] - Quote Dust focuses more on ISK balance than KDR. Vehicle users feel that pain... Sure they may survive 2 rounds without a death. But the time always comes were they lose 800,000-1,000,000 isk and have to go through at least 4 rounds to get it back.

The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1596	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:39:00 - [11] - Quote To be honest there should be a game mode without vehicles. But removing vehicles from ambush is not a option. I love sitting on top of a hill and using my proto swarms to blow up all the dumb LAV's, derpships and here and then a wild tank. Strangely ive got once called a dirty camper for just blowing LAV's up. That guy didnt liked it to loose logi LAV's.
Cosgar ParagonX 2222	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:47:00 - [12] - Quote What do you want next, an AR assault only mode too? Use the triple SP and spec into an AV weapon that isn't a grenade if vehicles offend you so much.
Aythadis Smith The Generals EoN. 39	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:50:00 - [13] - Quote Maybe a no vehicle mode or open the map some more so you can at least hide from them better
Thor McStrut Reckoners 46	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:51:00 - [14] - Quote I don't know the answer to the LAV problem, but I don't think they should be removed. Neither HAVs. At 6M SP though, I don't feel like I have a strong enough grasp on my basic fit, so I'm not dumping SP into AV yet. I just with others would help me deal with them though. Flux/MD combo is hard, I usually have to wait for them to get stuck on a rock, then flux em and MD the **** out of them. I just wish I could dodge out of the way better.
SENATOR KODOS Absentee AFK Regiment 222	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:52:00 - [15] - Quote oso tiburon wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: oso tiburon wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: Vehicles shouldnt even be in this game period. They serve no purpose. that has to be the biggest QQ ever i mean wow I like when people us QQ wrong lolderp. ok let me rephrase that ... the stupidest thing i have ever heard ... remove all vehicles so we can then have call of duty size maps with call of duty type gameplay ... hey lets all just run around ar's and smgs no skirmish no domo just team death match thats soooo original .... gtfo go back to black ops scrub or spec into swarms like every one else god im so sick of the stupidity Once again you make no sense. Im not saying remove them because they are good. Im saying remove them because they are useless lol derp more derp.
hooc roht Deep Space Republic Top Men. 208	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:55:00 - [16] - Quote no bad idea. It would be cool for some maps that make vehicles nearly impossible to use.
Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 202	Posted - 2013.07.05 21:59:00 - [17] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: Vehicles shouldnt even be in this game period. They serve no purpose. I agree partially with your second statement. Where we differ is I think the solution's to make a game in which they're more relevant. Rather than excising them they should be better integrated into the game, gain a larger role and a closer symbiotic relationship with infantry. The problem isn't vehicles, it's that Ambush and Skirmish 2.0 are ill considered and under designed. Do they naturally foster a broader team dynamic and bring a tactical objective-oriented focus into the game? No, they do not.
SENATOR KODOS Absentee AFK Regiment 222	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:00:00 - [18] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: Vehicles shouldnt even be in this game period. They serve no purpose. I agree partially with your second statement. Where we differ is I think the solution's to make a game in which they're more relevant, rather than excising vehicles they should have more of a role and a closer symbiotic relationship with infantry. The problem isn't vehicles, it's that Ambush and Skirmish 2.0 are ill considered and under designed. Do they naturally foster a broader team dynamic and bring a tactical objective-oriented focus into the game? No, they do not. Completely agree. At least you dont have nerd rage goggles on. At this point they are useless. If they could make them not useless I would say keep them but they wont.
oso tiburon The Generals EoN. 61	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:01:00 - [19] - Quote Thor McStrut wrote: I don't know the answer to the LAV problem, but I don't think they should be removed. Neither HAVs. At 6M SP though, I don't feel like I have a strong enough grasp on my basic fit, so I'm not dumping SP into AV yet. I just with others would help me deal with them though. Flux/MD combo is hard, I usually have to wait for them to get stuck on a rock, then flux em and MD the **** out of them. I just wish I could dodge out of the way better. NERF THE FN SHIELDS NUKE THEM DOWN TO NEXT TO NOTHING . i call bs when i can get 3 direct hits from a proto compressed rail gun and the little yellow sumabiyatch laughs at me and runs away
Aythadis Smith The Generals EoN. 39	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:02:00 - [20] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: oso tiburon wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: oso tiburon wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: Vehicles shouldnt even be in this game period. They serve no purpose. that has to be the biggest QQ ever i mean wow I like when people us QQ wrong lolderp. ok let me rephrase that ... the stupidest thing i have ever heard ... remove all vehicles so we can then have call of duty size maps with call of duty type gameplay ... hey lets all just run around ar's and smgs no skirmish no domo just team death match thats soooo original .... gtfo go back to black ops scrub or spec into swarms like every one else god im so sick of the stupidity Once again you make no sense. Im not saying remove them because they are good. Im saying remove them because they are useless lol derp more derp. Problem is that if one goes AV, there isn't a supply depo to switch back. In turn, free kill for anti infantry. As a vehicle specced idiot, I can grasp the pain of being stuck with out said vehicle and being stuck out in the open with just AV. I bet the problem isn't tanks. Till recently when tanks look like giant ISK sinks, when ever I seem a red tank, I was calling mine it to deal with said threat. So I am willing to bet it isnt tanks that are the problem but these damn joy ride LAVs with limbs caught in the brush guard.

oso tiburon The Generals EoN. 61	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:03:00 - [21] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: oso tiburon wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: oso tiburon wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: Vehicles shouldnt even be in this game period. They serve no purpose. that has to be the biggest QQ ever i mean wow I like when people us QQ wrong lolderp. ok let me rephrase that ... the stupidest thing i have ever heard ... remove all vehicles so we can then have call of duty size maps with call of duty type gameplay ... hey lets all just run around ar's and smgs no skirmish no domo just team death match thats soooo original .... gtfo go back to black ops scrub or spec into swarms like every one else god im so sick of the stupidity Once again you make no sense. Im not saying remove them because they are good. Im saying remove them because they are useless lol derp more derp. once again they do serve a purpose derp herp they serve as armored transport across large open areas they serve as infantry support they serve as a distraction for other enemy infantry they serve as area denile ... shall i go on .. like i said cod ghosts is out go give that a spin this game is far beyond your grasp
Aythadis Smith The Generals EoN. 39	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:04:00 - [22] - Quote Bumble bee LAVs need to be a squad car. If area of effect was brought back, slow these girls down, and add a minimum speed to kill with a direct hit would keep these girls on line. Oh and war points for repping. Give them incentive to be a ambulance.
Malkai Inos Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 525	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:13:00 - [23] - Quote No. Vehicles serve an area of denial purpose against anyone without the AV to counter them. Giving players a way to opt out of vehicle warfare via a seperate game mode leaves Pilots just with other Pilots and AV infantry. Vehicle drivers focus their SP on vehicles and are likely to be less proficient in all other areas due to this. They would be pretty much excluded from playing ambush on a high level without their vehicles.
Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 203	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:15:00 - [24] - Quote oso tiburon wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: oso tiburon wrote: ok let me rephrase that ... the stupidest thing i have ever heard ... remove all vehicles so we can then have call of duty size maps with call of duty type gameplay ... hey lets all just run around ar's and smgs no skirmish no domo just team death match thats soooo original .... gtfo go back to black ops scrub or spec into swarms like every one else god im so sick of the stupidity Once again you make no sense. Im not saying remove them because they are good. Im saying remove them because they are useless lol derp more derp. once again they do serve a purpose derp herp they serve as armored transport across large open areas they serve as infantry support they serve as a distraction for other enemy infantry they serve as area denile ... shall i go on .. like i said cod ghosts is out go give that a spin this game is far beyond your grasp I think his phrasing was just unfortunate and you got off on the wrong tack. What he actually meant was probably just that Dust, as it is, clearly is not a game that has been designed around the presence of vehicles and the potential dynamics they bring. Their being there is incidental to the present game, they aren't fundamental to it. This is a problem and one which I for one don't think CCP have properly understood or perhaps even acknowledged.
calvin b Molon Labe. League of Infamy 2	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:18:00 - [25] - Quote Vehicles should stay, but there should be limits on were they can go. LAV should not be able to drive up two flights of stairs and run you over for this is ridiculous. Limit the number of tanks on the board, more than three its getting out of hand. Dropships no problem here fly all you want
SENATOR KODOS Absentee AFK Regiment 224	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:18:00 - [26] - Quote oso tiburon wrote: once again they do serve a purpose derp herp they serve as armored transport across large open areas they serve as infantry support they serve as a distraction for other enemy infantry they serve as area denile ... shall i go on .. like i said cod ghosts is out go give that a spin this game is far beyond your grasp Another fail vehicle user with an active imagination lol.
SENATOR KODOS Absentee AFK Regiment 224	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:19:00 - [27] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: oso tiburon wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: oso tiburon wrote: ok let me rephrase that ... the stupidest thing i have ever heard ... remove all vehicles so we can then have call of duty size maps with call of duty type gameplay ... hey lets all just run around ar's and smgs no skirmish no domo just team death match thats soooo original .... gtfo go back to black ops scrub or spec into swarms like every one else god im so sick of the stupidity Once again you make no sense. Im not saying remove them because they are good. Im saying remove them because they are useless lol derp more derp. once again they do serve a purpose derp herp they serve as armored transport across large open areas they serve as infantry support they serve as a distraction for other enemy infantry they serve as area denile ... shall i go on .. like i said cod ghosts is out go give that a spin this game is far beyond your grasp I think his phrasing was just unfortunate and you got off on the wrong tack. What he actually meant was probably just that Dust, as it is, clearly is not a game that has been designed around the presence of vehicles and the potential dynamics they bring. Their being there is incidental to the present game, they aren't fundamental to it. This is a problem and one which I for one don't think CCP have properly understood or perhaps even acknowledged. Ya dudes wearing the proto version of the nerd rage goggles.
KingBlade82 The Phoenix Federation 59	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:22:00 - [28] - Quote ive said this before they need to have a no vehicle game mode or make ambush no vehicle for the casual members who want to just kill people and not wrry about objectives or lavs running them over and over again
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1910	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:26:00 - [29] - Quote HTFU and run AV
Manly Vehicle Operator Algintal Core Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:29:00 - [30] - Quote While we're at it lets remove infantry from Skirmish. And the neocom from the merc quarters.



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