To see all these good players resort to using the flaylock...im not going to name any names, and this is more of a general statement, but there are so many people who were good with an AR that just got sucked in to the flaylock fad. It makes me sad to see a person on the other team that i know it would be a fun 1v1 (had we ran into each other) against spam flaylock rounds at me before they start shooting their AR...if they even shoot their AR at all. Its just disappointing. Does anyone else feel the same way? Or is everyone kinda content with playing flaylock514?

People can't help but use that OP weapon to get them kills.

Personally i hate all OP weapons e.g. forge, flaylock...

And some people just love following trends, you know them ones because they have it out 24/7 trying to shoot you across map or when they spawn they switch to the flatlock they make me lol

lol yea the best is when youre 1v1ing somebody with ARs...and they pull out their flaylock half way through their clip because they are about to lose the gunfight.

Considering that for a good solid couple of build cycles the game has been AR514. I actually happy that people are not sticking with them.

To see all these good players resort to using the flaylock...im not going to name any names, and this is more of a general statement, but there are so many people who were good with an AR that just got sucked in to the flaylock fad. It makes me sad to see a person on the other team that i know it would be a fun 1v1 (had we ran into each other) against spam flaylock rounds at me before they start shooting their AR...if they even shoot their AR at all. Its just disappointing. Does anyone else feel the same way? Or is everyone kinda content with playing flaylock514?

but there are so many people who were good with an AR

Anyone can be good with the AR.

Anyone can be good with the AR.

Considering that the game classified as a FPS...i would hope a large amount of the player base would be using Assault Rifles/HMGs. It isnt a FPGL (First person grenade launcher)

I never think bringing "noob tubes" into a FPS is a good idea. BF3 was littered with them, and it took something away from the game. Dust has done the same thing. One guy was telling me you can get one of the proto flaylocks close to 300 hp in splash damage when you put damage mods on.

I honestly don't blame people for using them, though, because they're part of the game. Heck, I tried out the regular one today to see what all the hub bub was about, but I absolutely sucked at it.

im gallente scout so i know the flaylock pain more than anyone...they 1 shot me :(

luckily, i just got my core flaylock...soooo im getting my revenge lol

You gave in

yeah... i couldnt take the flaylock spam anymore so i joined in on it

so no more shotty?

Tell me OP, why do you use the AR in the first place? Because you want a challenge? No, because if that were the case you'd try to make the Plasma Cannon or Lasers work. No, you use it because it is the best gun for killing the enemy in the majority of situations.

Now the Flaylock (for the moment) is better at killing at certain situations (extreme close range combat). So they are using it for the exact same reason you use the AR, because they want to kill the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible. Can you really fault them for that?

So please get off your high horse. You're not gimping yourself by using the AR over the flaylock, the AR is still the best gun in the game.

Are you trying to say the FP isn't broken and people aren't just taking advantage of it?

Your words of had a lotmore impact if you weren't from a corp who spams the weapon as there ONLY weapon when it's a SIDE ARM. At least AR is a main slot weapon...

To see all these good players resort to using the flaylock...im not going to name any names, and this is more of a general statement, but there are so many people who were good with an AR that just got sucked in to the flaylock fad. It makes me sad to see a person on the other team that i know it would be a fun 1v1 (had we ran into each other) against spam flaylock rounds at me before they start shooting their AR...if they even shoot their AR at all. Its just disappointing. Does anyone else feel the same way? Or is everyone kinda content with playing flaylock514?

Glad to say Teamplayers doesn't exploit them. I notice alot of LoI though.... well not sure anymore now that OH is gone but I have seen HS use them dual style.. Even a member in this thread talking about using them. In Regnyum's defense he is working on it. Meaning doesn't use them yet. You do have to fight fire with fire though. Taking on corps that all have FP is not fun believe me it's overly challenging and frustrating.

I'm working on a caladari logi with FP :D

Glad to say Teamplayers doesn't exploit them. I notice alot of LoI though.... well not sure anymore now that OH is gone but I have seen HS use them dual style.. Even a member in this thread talking about using them. In Regnyum's defense he is working on it. Meaning doesn't use them yet. You do have to fight fire with fire though. Taking on corps that all have FP is not fun believe me it's overly challenging and frustrating.

Oh come on, where were you people throwing down your TAR's in disgust, disparaging people for 'exploiting' its brokenness. You weren't doing that, you were probably using them just like everyone else. The Flaylock is no different, its just a weapon that is good at the moment and probably on the chopping block for a nerf. Calling it an 'exploit' is dumb, I'm just playing the game.

so no more shotty?

can be but not many are. takes skill to be accurate with the assault rifle vs another great player. Godlock pistols are every scrubs wet dream, and ez mode of choice for vets going pc. OH spams them, let's just be honest, Blizz the lion or w/e, Kohmplex, radar, like half their team including raeselia (as a logi lol) I have recorded using them. Kohmplex could beat me 1v1 with the ar, but he'd rather make me resort to fused and remotes these days cause i refuse to use the damn noob tube weapon. Honestly I'm dissapointed so many like radar have switched. I doubt it'll be like when they nerfed zerging in starcraft, but they will have to adjust strategies once they fix it. However, if broadway runs caldari flavor of the month I lol at his hypocrisy. Anyone who uses anything but a caldari logi I have massive respect for you. that was the original flavor of the month in uprising.

And what makes the AR more "valid" to use than a flaylock? Because it doesnt shoot explosive rounds? Its as valid as any other weapon, using the AR/HMG as the sole measuring stick for good or bad players or gunfights its your problem, not the game's.

Anyone can be good with the AR.

Tell me OP, why do you use the AR in the first place? Because you want a challenge? No, because if that were the case you'd try to make the Plasma Cannon or Lasers work. No, you use it because it is the best gun for killing the enemy in the majority of situations.

Now the Flaylock (for the moment) is better at killing at certain situations (extreme close range combat). So they are using it for the exact same reason you use the AR, because they want to kill the enemy as quickly and efficiently as possible. Can you really fault them for that?

So please get off your high horse. You're not gimping yourself by using the AR over the flaylock, the AR is still the best gun in the game.

No, I'm not saying that at all. The Flaylock is pretty broken at the moment, and will most likely get a deserved nerf.

I just think it's silly to complain about the Flaylock as an AR user when the AR has long been the most dominant gun in the game. AR peeps use them because they are really good, exact same reason people use Flaylocks.

And I'm willing to bet that back when they too were 'broken', Broadway used a Duvolle Tac. But I don't fault him for it. If you're trying to win the game, why not use the best guns?

Glad to say Teamplayers doesn't exploit them. I notice alot of LoI though.... well not sure anymore now that OH is gone but I have seen HS use them dual style.. Even a member in this thread talking about using them. In Regnyum's defense he is working on it. Meaning doesn't use them yet. You do have to fight fire with fire though. Taking on corps that all have FP is not fun believe me it's overly challenging and frustrating.

I do run the caldari logi..im not going to act like i dont. But I do also have the basic Proto that I use as well. I definitely think the caldari logi should be nerfed, however..it doesnt matter how many HPs you fit on the suit..3 flaylock rounds puts it down. period. And for a weapon that has 45 cpu and 2 pg...it just doesnt equate and i think you know what. Not having a side arm really sucks though..just sayin. I dont think that the caldari logi and the flaylock can be compared to one another..totally different...not even in the same ballpark.. and you know that. Besides, I see way less caldar logis than I do other suits..let alone flaylock pistols. So you can lol all you want, butttt youre trying to compare apples to oranges.

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Yea I used the duvolle tac..but a gun that shoots bullets is much different than a pistol that 3 hits people with 800+ eHP. I still had to aim lol...you act like all you had to do with the Tac was press r1 as fast as I could and I would get a kill no matter where my cursor was. Bullets don't have splash damage lol. With a flaylock all you have to do is shoot in the general direction at the enemies feet and you do a ton of damage...see the difference?

Evidently you either failed to read the context of my post, or failed to comprehend it. And im not going to waste my time trying to have an educated discussion with somebody who is basically trolling because he's upset that he gets killed with an assault rifle in a first person shooter.

Your point was "flaylocks take away good engagements that should had been with AR vs AR"

Mine was "No, good engagements are good regardless of what weapon its used. Also I like that AR users are getting some karma back at them"

So the answer to balancing weapons is to go down the list so everyone have lvl 10 on every weapon???

"Okay, lots of people spec'd into Lasers, MD, and AR's... Lets nerf them and make gaylocks op"... "Yeah! Thats a great idea"

sigh

To see all these good players resort to using the flaylock...im not going to name any names, and this is more of a general statement, but there are so many people who were good with an AR that just got sucked in to the flaylock fad. It makes me sad to see a person on the other team that i know it would be a fun 1v1 (had we ran into each other) against spam flaylock rounds at me before they start shooting their AR...if they even shoot their AR at all. Its just disappointing. Does anyone else feel the same way? Or is everyone kinda content with playing flaylock514?

I do run the caldari logi..im not going to act like i dont. But I do also have the basic Proto that I use as well. I definitely think the caldari logi should be nerfed, however..it doesnt matter how many HPs you fit on the suit..3 flaylock rounds puts it down. period. And for a weapon that has 45 cpu and 2 pg...it just doesnt equate and i think you know what. Not having a side arm really sucks though..just sayin. I dont think that the caldari logi and the flaylock can be compared to one another..totally different...not even in the same ballpark.. and you know that. Besides, I see way less caldar logis than I do other suits..let alone flaylock pistols. So you can lol all you want, butttt youre trying to compare apples to oranges.

Here's an idea: get good and stop dying to a sidearm with a 3 round mag?
Flaylocks rarely killed me in PC matches because they're extremely easy to counter.

Please learn to play.

People can't help but use that OP weapon to get them kills.

Personally i hate all OP weapons e.g. forge, flaylock...

And some people just love following trends, you know them ones because they have it out 24/7 trying to shoot you across map or when they spawn they switch to the flatlock they make me lol