What's the point of having module slots if you don't that the PG/CPU to fit them? HP tanking is needed to make logis durable so it can perform its support duties.

Logistics have the capability to fit more Complex gear than any other class due to their higher CPU/PG. As I said, it was meant for equipment. Forgo the equipment, and you create a suit that has more EHP than a Heavy, with more mobility, survivability, and offensive power than ALL of it's peers.

Hope that answers that question.

leaving the slots alone and changing the passive reps logi bonus to reduction of equipment fitting and changing assault from shield recharge to increased damage would balance them a lot.

this comes with a normalization of CPU/PG for all mediums suits as well.

this would require a reshuffling of a lot of racial bonuses though, of which we are in dire need.

So, the current problem with Logistics is their insane tank. Their beefed up CPU/PG - which was intended to allow them to fit equipment - is being abused to allow them to fit complete racks of complex mods. Something that other, non logistics suits struggle to do, or can only do if they sacrifice in other areas.

So, I propose the following: Lower Logistics CPU/PG to be in-line with non-logistics suits. Don't nerf it in to the ground, but rather put it at comparable Assault levels. Then, give all Logistics suits a bonus which reduces the fitting requirements of certain equipment.

And presto. Logistics, without the broken fitting options. Problem solved.

So, the current problem with Logistics is their insane tank. Their beefed up CPU/PG - which was intended to allow them to fit equipment - is being abused to allow them to fit complete racks of complex mods. Something that other, non logistics suits struggle to do, or can only do if they sacrifice in other areas.

So, I propose the following: Lower Logistics CPU/PG to be in-line with non-logistics suits. Don't nerf it in to the ground, but rather put it at comparable Assault levels. Then, give all Logistics suits a bonus which reduces the fitting requirements of certain equipment.

And presto. Logistics, without the broken fitting options. Problem solved.

Good luck getting support from logis who opt advanced or higher equipment for survivability. Also if my CPU/PG is to be lowered give me a sidearm since i will now be an assault suit, oh and dont forget to give me my speed back please; hell give me faster speed than an assault since my HP would be pretty low now.

No. Just give them a damage reduction. Say, 20-30%. Then boost equipment's efficiency. Simple.


Peace, Aizen

Let me get this straight.. "Good luck getting support from the community that needs a nerf.". Yes, I think you're right. Nobody wants to get nerfed, so I really don't expect their backing. Having said that, I don't see many Logi's offering up a solution, so I suppose we have to take what we get.

No. Just give them a damage reduction. Say, 20-30%. Then boost equipment's efficiency. Simple.


Peace, Aizen

There is no problem, therefore no solution is needed.

Despectfully disagree. Caldari logi's need a change. The rest are fine though.

All medium suits should have fewer high and low power module slots. They should gain one slot per suit advancement and all suits should have the same number of total slots. The initial Shield/Armor HP, equipment slots, speed, and sidearm capability should be what separates the suit distinctions. These distinctions should be permanent. No medium suit should have the slots to become faster than a base scout and no medium suit should be able to have more HP than a base heavy.

A suit should always have a strong presence with its niche. When other suits have the capability to equal that niche, the niche is removed.

Despectfully disagree. Caldari logi's need a change. The rest are fine though.

replace the light weapon for 1 sidearm only.

now you can fit uber tank but cant be uber dps unless at close range. suit is now not an assault suit as you cant fit assault weapons. proper logistics players would then still be able to full tank and fit all the equipment they need while still being able to do some damage.

/facepalm

replace the light weapon for 1 sidearm only.

now you can fit uber tank but cant be uber dps unless at close range. suit is now not an assault suit as you cant fit assault weapons. proper logistics players would then still be able to full tank and fit all the equipment they need while still being able to do some damage.

Adam and Eve has a point. Logistic suit wearers want to be able to tank and by removing the light weapon slot, they can still tank but lack the range of an assault suit.

It's not the first time this idea has been offered and still it's not a bad idea.

Adam and Eve has a point. Logistic suit wearers want to be able to tank and by removing the light weapon slot, they can still tank but lack the range of an assault suit.

It's not the first time this idea has been offered and still it's not a bad idea.

Ok Let's play your game....

How can i support the team if ALL player outrange me ( SUPRISE, NO MORE HARD CAP!!!! ) with base slow speed, lesser health?

You know whatlogi do and WHERE real logi play or you're another ALLtalkNOproof Guy?

Again,
Logi play in the same field that A.S.S. play and eat the same ****.
With the lack of DPS done to the enemy, how can we be usefull when the useful weap OUTCLASS the most powerfull rep per?

You want me have a Sidearm? FIne I want only logi have equip slot, because you cant supply yourself, you're an assault
i will have fun watching you play STONEAGE 514

You know that in this game, those mechanics arent viable?

I'm perfectly ok with assault suits having no equipment slot. I'd suggest that scouts keep their equipment slot, however. Stone age people didn't have sidearm weapons, much less fully automatic SMGs, btw.

Why scout need and equip slot, you know, is a scout

You know why i called it STONEAGE 514? because if a logi is not in the match you will see all the big A.S.S CODBOYS melee the enemy to death.

BIG FUN !!!

Scout isn't worth much else and the suit is miserable, why not give them a slot for remote explosives. Logis complain about possibly being made less effective at assault than an assault class while the scout and heavy have received so little love from CCP. If CCP were to make the logi as bad as the scout and heavy, then a complaint from logi's should be heard. Logi and assault to me are very similar but the assault should shine at direct combat than the log, at least that's how it seems to me.

Really though, there will be no balance to the suits so we all waste our time speaking of it. Chromosome came and left, while CCP left us with a horrible suit imbalance.

Scout isn't worth much else and the suit is miserable, why not give them a slot for remote explosives. Logis complain about possibly being made less effective at assault than an assault class while the scout and heavy have received so little love from CCP. If CCP were to make the logi as bad as the scout and heavy, then a complaint from logi's should be heard. Logi and assault to me are very similar but the assault should shine at direct combat than the log, at least that's how it seems to me.

Really though, there will be no balance to the suits so we all waste our time speaking of it. Chromosome came and left, while CCP left us with a horrible suit imbalance.

Mine statement before was made for giving you and idea of HOW wrong is the concept: XXX is this so MUST do this...

Why you call in imbalance?

Apart of Cal.Logi ALL other Logi suit are inferior to their A.S.S. counterpart ( Cosgar provide the Chart )

Right now is simply wrong saying tha a logi can can tank better than a.s.s.

So, the current problem with Logistics is their insane tank. Their beefed up CPU/PG - which was intended to allow them to fit equipment - is being abused to allow them to fit complete racks of complex mods. Something that other, non logistics suits struggle to do, or can only do if they sacrifice in other areas.

So, I propose the following: Lower Logistics CPU/PG to be in-line with non-logistics suits. Don't nerf it in to the ground, but rather put it at comparable Assault levels. Then, give all Logistics suits a bonus which reduces the fitting requirements of certain equipment.

And presto. Logistics, without the broken fitting options. Problem solved.

CUT

Incoming or outgoing damage reduction?

And are you saying, move the module bonus to equipment instead?

Yup. Exactly. They are not supposed to be worrying about themselves, but their comrades. I even put a sidearm on this alt's logi's so I can fit all PROTO equipment. Also, I put flux nades on just to scare off people, not kill them, and because they're easier to fit. This alt isn't very good at fighting, but it kicks ass as a logi bro.


Peace, Aizen