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![Morathi III Morathi III](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_amarr_128.jpg)
Morathi III
Pro Hic Immortalis
118
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:55:00 -
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-1 but nerf the dammage, valuable to the flaylock also |
![Tupni Tupni](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_amarr_128.jpg)
Tupni
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.07.07 02:02:00 -
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Is this a thing that happens now? I didn't even notice, I just thought I wasn't paying attention and had horrible timing or it was a special class of grenade.
I vote against having explosion on contact on the grounds that that's not how grenades work, and that they shouldn't work like that.
Mass drivers and flaylock pistols are fine though since exploding on contact is their nature. |
![Himiko Kuronaga Himiko Kuronaga](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
741
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:59:00 -
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Remove them.
Doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks, I've long since decided you're all idiots. |
![Asher Night Asher Night](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Asher Night
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
219
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:12:00 -
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Remove them. |
![stlcarlos989 stlcarlos989](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
243
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:05:00 -
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Current Vote Totals
Remove: 28 Keep: 14 Nerf: 9 |
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Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
295
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:39:00 -
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If and only if it includes AV grenades, I'm in. |
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Shadowswipe
WarRavens League of Infamy
134
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:45:00 -
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I choose option C: Balance them accordingly. Reduce the number carried as the housing to make sure they don't blow up on your hip while running at full speed takes up more room than the standard grenades. Thus they are still cool and are limited in a way. Max carried at proto level would be 2, and the standard would be just 1. And make them drain more nanohive nanites to avoid nanohive spam nades. |
![Sollemnis Aelinos Sollemnis Aelinos](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Sollemnis Aelinos
89th Infantry Division
68
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:47:00 -
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+1
i dont even see the logic of having them in the first place |
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Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
27
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:55:00 -
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+1
... with the caveat that I mostly mind because there's no ISK-purchased version until proto. Either require advanced skills for fused flux in the first place, give us ISK-based advanced 'nades, or drop them altogether. Especially considering their prohibitive cost at the proto level, they're PtW, and that's not what I signed on for. |
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Shadowswipe
WarRavens League of Infamy
134
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:55:00 -
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Sollemnis Aelinos wrote:+1
i dont even see the logic of having them in the first place Cause war demands effective weapons. It is obviously effective as this debate rages. The real thing to do is to balance it, nto remove it. More options is always better as long as those options aren't forced on you. |
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Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
263
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:01:00 -
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I don't really give a crap whether they stay or go. Their great for popping those pesky scouts before they get to close when you don't have 3 seconds to cook a nade. In the end though cores will be much more effective, it's a mini nuke. Where with the thukker double kills never happen.
Also by my understanding fused grenades do not equal contact grenades. Fused grenades simply have a much shorter fuse time of 3second instead of six while retaining the same damage and radius of a standard locus. The contact grenades have 600damage with a 2.5 radius and keeps the 6 second fuse but will explode on contact regardless of fuse time. |
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pseudosnipre
DUST University Ivy League
54
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:01:00 -
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Nerf by increasing time-to-deploy; make them a strategic room clearer instead of a twitch finisher.
Only thing worse than infinite FP ROF is dodging that 80th A/R round and...instakilled by button-press. |
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Sinboto Simmons
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
611
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:31:00 -
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Don't know if I've voted but my vote is to remove.
And if I have voted then....woops lol I'll look for a post by me in a sec to be sure
Edit: +1 |
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Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
272
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:33:00 -
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+1 |
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Illuminaughty-696
Galere Omega Battle Services
278
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:35:00 -
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-1
Unless they are also ISK items these things have no place in this game. Or unless CCP finally implements a working market. Until either of the above CCP is just invalidating any argument about how AUR items are not better. |
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Traky78
What The French CRONOS.
166
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:43:00 -
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Just remove them
But hey, there are a lot of things more annoying actually, hey Flaylock, hey logi Caldari, hey taxi murder ... |
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CPL Bloodstone
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
116
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Posted - 2013.07.11 20:43:00 -
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+1 Remove |
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RA Drahcir
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
18
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:04:00 -
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+1 not even going to bother reading idiots on the other side. yes, i am a bigot. |
![Alaika Arbosa Alaika Arbosa](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_minmatar_128.jpg)
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
597
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:12:00 -
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-1
Panic 'nade needs to stay.
If it is removed, then so should Flaylocks, Mass Drivers and all Vehicles. |
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commando biffle
Shadow Company HQ
2
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:46:00 -
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+1 |
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commando biffle
Shadow Company HQ
2
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Posted - 2013.07.11 22:49:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:-1
Panic 'nade needs to stay.
If it is removed, then so should Flaylocks, Mass Drivers and all Vehicles.
uuuuummmm no!!! |
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Cormack's Modified Griefer
Expert Intervention Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:05:00 -
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+1 |
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Willie Fistersnatch
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:13:00 -
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some people are running around gunning everyone down unopposed. people will cry about proto gear and flaylocks. I am telling every one i meet in game a little secret. sticking together and squading up are nice but how would you like a real edge?
you can be unstoppable. I will be broadcasting how over teamchat this evening but for you loyal fans of chaos try this.
upon getting a black screen press down to open map,L1 for neocom, open playerlist. back out of everything and presto optic camo. no one can see you now. run and gun with glee |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
597
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:19:00 -
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commando biffle wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:-1
Panic 'nade needs to stay.
If it is removed, then so should Flaylocks, Mass Drivers and all Vehicles. uuuuummmm no!!!
Well, I happen to feel the same way about the removal of the Panic 'nade as you do about the removal of the other three. |
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Centurion mkII
Sver true blood Public Disorder.
124
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:31:00 -
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Minus One. Just reduce their strength so they're wounding nades. |
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Deranged Disaster
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
387
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Posted - 2013.07.11 23:38:00 -
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Remove them. |
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commando biffle
Shadow Company HQ
2
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:08:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:commando biffle wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:-1
Panic 'nade needs to stay.
If it is removed, then so should Flaylocks, Mass Drivers and all Vehicles. uuuuummmm no!!! Well, I happen to feel the same way about the removal of the Panic 'nade as you do about the removal of the other three. go play COD |
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Unmei no Hoeru
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
17
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:12:00 -
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Remove them
A grenade blowing on touch is just a save button for those assault keeping in the back and the hell for scouts. |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2423
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Posted - 2013.07.12 00:37:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:+1 to remove -1 to keep
Feel free to give reasoning just don't troll, just vote so CCP can see how we view them.
+1 they make the skill of properly cooking grenades useless and gives people an I win button when they start losing a gunfight. Plus the fact that we already went through this in closed beta we didn't want them then and they were removed if you want to keep them in the merc pack then fine but completely remove them from the market.
Vote total (I will update regularly) Remove: 28 Keep: 14 Nerf: 9
I had to interpret some votes based on +1/-1 confusion so 1 to 2 vote error is possible +1 Contact grenades work in games like Tribes because of the extremely high TTK and focus on high-speed movement that game has. You'll also notice that those don't do enough damage to insta-gib a player.
Contact Grenades are no good for this game.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
597
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Posted - 2013.07.12 01:10:00 -
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commando biffle wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:commando biffle wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:-1
Panic 'nade needs to stay.
If it is removed, then so should Flaylocks, Mass Drivers and all Vehicles. uuuuummmm no!!! Well, I happen to feel the same way about the removal of the Panic 'nade as you do about the removal of the other three. go play COD
lol
Adapt or Die. |
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