mirrors edge was very... "meh"

EA may be a ****** company (Although they seem to be changing a little now), but they do publish some fantastic games.

MOH was a terrible game and all the C&C games made after they scrapped Westwood Studios were crap and awful

PS1 versions of C&C beat what they put out now

They wrecked a awesome series

Aside from the whole judging without even knowing the guy thing I am just going to leave this here: http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,11359/

To name a few:
C&C Renegade
BF2
BF2142
Mirrors Edge

Looks awesome to me! :D

What a misleading title.

What are you trying to say here?

For instance:
Did you just try to give that EA spawn credit for Battlefield 2's creation/development/success? Seriously?
The same Battlefield 2 that began development before EA even purchased Dice (read: Dice sold out)?
The same Battlefield 2 that was ACTUALLY inspired by the mod "Desert Combat" and was in-part developed by said mod team's first dev studio, Trauma Studios?

Please tell me that I don't no more than you do about the games on his so-called "Games Credited" list and how little his existence had on the creation and success of a number of them. Please.

Prejudging the guy? BS....
Your problem has nothing to do with the guy being prejudged, because I've done no such thing. Your issue is with my implications (read: not prejudging) of what said EA spawn's presence as CCP will result in.


By the way, nice thread title hijack. Spent all night at work wondering what the freak happened to my thread.



Every online shooter developer that I've ever encountered.... EVER..... has always had everything figured out enough to know they were right about anything I felt they were doing wrong. Until they either begrudgingly (often half-assedly) admit fault or were promoted to the position of "former dev of a now defunct game development branch/company" (often taking their position to the dev graveyard with them)

I agree that somebody working for EA doesn't equal EA taking over Dust but I can say that I've played many recent EA offerings and they all were profit based games.... just enough to get people to buy the game and then you would realize the mistake you just made. It isn't that EA sucks it's just that the bean counters are running the show over there.
I have several games that I still play even years after they were released but there isn't a single EA game worth playing after about a week. Hopefully Dust isn't going to go down this path.......

Here is some constructive criticism:
It makes no sense that you can buy some things with Aur but there are other ways to get the same stuff cheaper if you buy a different offering.
Example: Aerial pack gives dropships that can be bought cheaper if you just buy the Aur and then buy them with Aur.
Second Example: you can buy 100,000 Aur or you can buy the Merc Pack that comes with 100,000 Aur plus dropsuits and other schwag for the same price.

I still remember C&C Renegade and endless hours I spent playing it in multiplayer with my friends... Start at 20:00 finish at 6:00 the next day. Protecting the harvester all day long with my sniper!

Odd. I was under the impression that most classic CnC gamers viewed CnC:Renegade as being the beginning of the end of the Command and Conquer franchise. At least the "good" days of it.

What I remember is hours upon hours of excitement filled matches....... in CnC Tiberium Sun, and in CnC Red Alert 2. Even managed a bit of fun with the first Generals when it was released until the horrible instability killed the fun for me.
Renegade, however, was total garbage..... imho

I think the "Point" is, that he have experience with well known AAA games. CCP have lots to gain, and nothing to loose. It have nothing to do with EA in particular, as you trying to make it sound ...

It's amazing how many don't grasp the word "CORPORATION" in a game where they can create corporations. lol

Sony. microsoft, activision, capcom, EA, ext they are all corps. I'm sure some of you boy cut them all eh? happy with the indie crap huh?

I play what I like. from whatever corp. COD World at War was my last COD game, cause I felt for nothing what came after words. same with madden 2010. (being my last madden) I'm still looking forward to lost planet 3. enjoyed dragons dogma. I did like dead space 3 as a action game, cause no way it's a horror. And am I not getting BF4? hahaha.. seriously? (hell yes I'm getting it)



You play what you like.

I've only taken issue with EA in my OP. The rest is inaccurate assumption on your part.

I have no qualms against Sony, $soft, Activision or Capcom(they make like 0 games that I'm interested in, so how could I)

My issues with EA are well-earned and well-deserved.

I was gaming and fanboying EA titles long before the mainstream gaming community knew who they were, and even before most of you young ones were born.
My first madden game came on floppy and was played on my Apple II
I spent most of my first six years as a madden fanboy having to first explain to my friends that Sega Genisis didn't suck and wouldn't give them herpes, before I could even began to convince them to give madden a try.

If you'd have ask me to predict EA's future back then, I'd have never guessed it would turn out like this. not in my wildest nightmares. Not until after they pulled that crap in 1997 when the first Gameday dropped (right upside their heads).......... it's been downhill (integrity/sincerity-wise) since then.


-It would take more than COD's shamelessly casual/accessibilitardy direction to make me hate on Activision.
-In all my years of gaming with $soft software/hardware/games, I've never developed any beef with them as a company (though the hacking epidemic in Halo2 brought me close to doing so)
-Sony does a lot of underhanded crap, and in many ways they mimic EA. However, they pale in direct comparison to EA's villainy. Also, Sony knows how to reach out to core demographics in a good way from time to time (MAG, Warhawk/Starhawk, Killzone2, the early SOCOMs, planetside1/2, etc.. etc..). They know how to do more than just "acquire success". They still bring innovation to the gaming industry, regardless of the risks that comes with doing so.
-Why would one even mention Capcom in the same sentence as those four?

When pressed about DUST 514 updates, Hilmar revealed that the game is now on a strict monthly iterative development cycle for the next quarter. "We're working on a monthly iteration cycle," he told me. "The first update is coming tomorrow; we're very excited for that." One of Sean's responsibilities as VP of product development will be to figure out what developers should work on in the next cycle based on community feedback. CCP has never had to deal with the sheer volume of players that free-to-play games attract, and Sean's experience on the Play4Free titles is sure to come in handy here.

People are always complaining that CCP has little/no experience developing FPSs.

Well, now they have someone who does.

Let's at least give him a chance, and wait and see what he does here, for this company.

Can we have someone, who knows what the flop they're talking about, come into this thread and post a list of all the FPSes that he actually physically took part in developing?

I'd actually like to know, for future reference.

God people like to whine a lot!

I don't understand how Decker is being cast as the person responsible for every flaw in every game released by EA in the past 800 years. EA is a massive company and 10s of thousands of people affect the outcomes of those games. How about we don't jump to conclusions and see what impact he has on DUST and EVE?

Personally I like to think that Decker left EA as he wanted a nicer paced company to work with. He found that with CCP and Decker's experience of big FPS development will fuse well with CCP's style of development. Hopefulyl we'll have more communication from CCP and we have another person with the job of listening to our feedback and working out how to implement the best parts into DUST.

I don't think it's the FPS experience people are worried about. It's the in game marketing for **** we don't want or need.

We already have AUR adverts, they are adequate enough. I don't need asking if I want to buy Crysis 3 every 15 minutes.

*Crysis 3 was used as an example*

I see what you mean but I still think people are getting over hyped. Decker is not going to be dictating CCP policy, it will be CCP dictating Decker's goals. He also left EA for a reason.

Let's wait and see how things turn out before jumping to the conclusion DUST will turn fall apart in a heap of badly aimed micro transactions and adds. I think a new focus on Product Development will be great!