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General Technique
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.02 12:50:00 -
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First off I'd just like to say, as a proud EA hater, CCP..... you've just become extremely close to being dead to me.
Quote: CCP taps EA's Sean Decker as new VP of product development
by Mike Foster on Jul 2nd 2013 8:30AM
Big changes from Iceland today, as CCP announced that it has brought on Sean Decker as senior vice president of product development. Decker is a 12-year EA veteran and recently headed the publisher's free-to-play focused games group, along with previously overseeing DICE and EA Los Angeles. EVE Online, as crazy as it sounds, is entering its second decade of being a game about internet spaceships, and CCP is looking toward the future.
The company referenced Decker's extensive industry experience as a valuable asset in helping guide EVE Online through its next 10 years and in ensuring growth through the eventually-maybe launch of World of Darkness and the expansion of DUST 514. Decker will be based out of CCP's Atlanta studio.
Massively's Brendan Drain spoke with Decker and EVE's Hilmar Petursson at a press event yesterday. We'll have more information on how the new hire will impact EVE this afternoon!
With good reason, I avoided spending money on EA products for the four years proir to BF3's release, and have avoided purchasing any more EA products since then. Sorry, but I won't bother elaborating, since this is neither the time nor place for all that jazz. However, I do have some questions I want to ask......
- What impact, if any, does the Dust514 community expect this move(hire) to have on Dust and the Eve universe?
- What does the Dust514 community feel this decision says about CCP?
- Any other thoughts or concerns on this subject?
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Knight SoIaire
Rent-A-Murder Taxi
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Posted - 2013.07.02 12:52:00 -
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EA may be a ****** company (Although they seem to be changing a little now), but they do publish some fantastic games. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.02 12:53:00 -
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It's a positive move for CCP. They needed someone different in their office. |
calisk galern
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Posted - 2013.07.02 12:53:00 -
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well there's a lot of people involved in a company, some force things yon their employees even project leads.
just because he worked at EA doesn't mean he's the reason why I hate a lot of their policies, doesn't mean he's not either, guess we'll see. |
Aran Abbas
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2013.07.02 12:54:00 -
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Just because you've worked for EA doesn't mean you're evil incarnate.
Just a high probability of it. |
General Technique
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:02:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:well there's a lot of people involved in a company, some force things yon their employees even project leads.
just because he worked at EA doesn't mean he's the reason why I hate a lot of their policies, doesn't mean he's not either, guess we'll see.
He didn't "just work at EA"
He "ran" the F2P games division for EA, globally. He oversaw (read: ran) Dice and EA Los Angeles.
The two above facts place him in direct accountability as to some of the controversial changes BF3 brought about to the Battlefield franchise. It also places him in direct responsibility for failure POS pay-to-win games like Battlefield Free2Play (go google it).
This guy was not the poor pee-on looking to make EA better and getting stepped on for his effort. He's the one that was crushing said employees (and their integrity) beneath his heel......... imho |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:12:00 -
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The question here is why did this guy leave EA Games in the first place? |
Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:18:00 -
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General Technique wrote: Blah, Blah, Blah
CCP Atlanta = Primarily World of Darkness
Now remove Tinfoil hat, and unbunch those panties.
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT
lMPurity
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:18:00 -
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EA games is starting to trend back to being a better gaming house, its Activision thats been crap lately.
That said yea this person's decision in BF franchise didn't help endear him to anyone, so this may end up being worse in the long run. |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:22:00 -
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Maybe CCP will get its own Baby Eating Division now. With the population rising, its high time that more corporations take a stand and look to the future. |
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General Technique
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:29:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:General Technique wrote: Blah, Blah, Blah
CCP Atlanta = Primarily World of Darkness Now remove Tinfoil hat, and unbunch those panties.
mushroom less, fanbro......
v v v v v v v v v v ".....and the expansion of Dust514" ~the article |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:34:00 -
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If, as you say, this guy made some mistakes... I'd look to who he is. If he's the type that learns from his mistakes then this could be a really good move.
Seriously guys, some of you need to grow up a little bit. CCP won't become EA overnight unless they start putting EA folks in everything. At the level this guy is coming in at he shouldn't be in the lower level details. I'd bet dollars that this guy and CCP have had some discussions about who pays the salary and what they expect to get out of that. |
General Technique
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:46:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:If, as you say, this guy made some mistakes... I'd look to who he is. If he's the type that learns from his mistakes then this could be a really good move.
Seriously guys, some of you need to grow up a little bit. CCP won't become EA overnight unless they start putting EA folks in everything. At the level this guy is coming in at he shouldn't be in the lower level details. I'd bet dollars that this guy and CCP have had some discussions about who pays the salary and what they expect to get out of that.
I think it's pretty apparent that he's been brought in for his extensive knowledge and experience with F2P monetization and the operations and financing (etc...) that goes on with that gaming sector.
The amount of power and influence he'll wield within CCP is yet to be seen, but the truth of the matter is that the culture he brings to the table is 100% EA. That's what CCP has went and gotten itself.
If you're looking for example to gauge this situation by, EA has been vomiting high profile execs, directors and CEOs all over other dev studios and publishers throughout the industry for the past half decade. Go do some research and see how the majority of those situations often turned out. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.02 13:57:00 -
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That is great news ... how you manage to do that CCP ? |
WhiteMage7322
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:13:00 -
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Don't confuse EA with DICE. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:19:00 -
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On another note... unless the blurb is mistaken it seems to be talking about the future of EVE online... so maybe they will consider a way to make it F2P also? |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:32:00 -
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Aww yeah... Madden throwing skills being brought to the Grenade game.
(I don't assume that any of you are old enough to remember CoD before they went MW/Black Ops dumbness and the games were good.) |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:34:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Aww yeah... Madden throwing skills being brought to the Grenade game.
(I don't assume that any of you are old enough to remember CoD before they went MW/Black Ops dumbness and the games were good.)
I know what you speak of. Their decline was disappointing to experience. The last CoD I played was #2. Haven't touched them since
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Munin-Frey
Fish Spotters Inc.
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Posted - 2013.07.02 14:44:00 -
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I agree that somebody working for EA doesn't equal EA taking over Dust but I can say that I've played many recent EA offerings and they all were profit based games.... just enough to get people to buy the game and then you would realize the mistake you just made. It isn't that EA sucks it's just that the bean counters are running the show over there. I have several games that I still play even years after they were released but there isn't a single EA game worth playing after about a week. Hopefully Dust isn't going to go down this path.......
Here is some constructive criticism: It makes no sense that you can buy some things with Aur but there are other ways to get the same stuff cheaper if you buy a different offering. Example: Aerial pack gives dropships that can be bought cheaper if you just buy the Aur and then buy them with Aur. Second Example: you can buy 100,000 Aur or you can buy the Merc Pack that comes with 100,000 Aur plus dropsuits and other schwag for the same price. |
General Technique
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.02 15:16:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Aww yeah... Madden throwing skills being brought to the Grenade game.
(I don't assume that any of you are old enough to remember CoD before they went MW/Black Ops dumbness and the games were good.)
COD 3 was my favorite console COD game, which was odd considering Treyarch developed it in less than 9 months
When I first saw COD4 I was immediately disappointed, but gave it a shot anyways. Everyone that knew me as a gamer back then knows that I didn't like the direction they went with the franchise, wasn't keen on liking Modern Warfare even before I had tried it, and barely found it entertaining after playing it.
At a glance, I new that I was done with the COD franchise when I saw the first BlackOps. Just wasn't my cup of tea anymore. Had way too many better options for competitive twitch shooter, arcade shooter, and tactical shooter gaming. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.02 15:36:00 -
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EA as a whole should be brought down since they love to ruin original titles when they absorb the company and sqaush any decent games in favour of the 'casual gamer' while DLC is everywhere and profit is king and always will be
They got voted worst company in US twice lol
The guy has left EA maybe he removed his head form his arse and has seen the light, then again maybe he has been brinwashed by EA and is sent out to ruin other companys with EA bad ideas
Time will tell |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.02 16:29:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:EA as a whole should be brought down since they love to ruin original titles when they absorb the company and sqaush any decent games in favour of the 'casual gamer' while DLC is everywhere and profit is king and always will be
They got voted worst company in US twice lol
The guy has left EA maybe he removed his head form his arse and has seen the light, then again maybe he has been brinwashed by EA and is sent out to ruin other companys with EA bad ideas
Time will tell I thought they promoted everything for the causal gamer, rather than crush it. Can't claim BF3 is for the hardcore type. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.02 16:30:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:EA as a whole should be brought down since they love to ruin original titles when they absorb the company and sqaush any decent games in favour of the 'casual gamer' while DLC is everywhere and profit is king and always will be
They got voted worst company in US twice lol
The guy has left EA maybe he removed his head form his arse and has seen the light, then again maybe he has been brinwashed by EA and is sent out to ruin other companys with EA bad ideas
Time will tell Oh, and get online today. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.02 16:43:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:EA may be a ****** company (Although they seem to be changing a little now), but they do publish some fantastic games. No they don't. Their games are terrible. |
Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.07.02 16:44:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:The question here is why did this guy leave EA Games in the first place? Probably to destroy other companies. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.02 16:49:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:EA as a whole should be brought down since they love to ruin original titles when they absorb the company and sqaush any decent games in favour of the 'casual gamer' while DLC is everywhere and profit is king and always will be
They got voted worst company in US twice lol
The guy has left EA maybe he removed his head form his arse and has seen the light, then again maybe he has been brinwashed by EA and is sent out to ruin other companys with EA bad ideas
Time will tell I thought they promoted everything for the causal gamer, rather than crush it. Can't claim BF3 is for the hardcore type.
They crush the good games then rehash it with DLC on top, except its nothing like the original game and makes the entire series a joke except for new players to the series or ones who want it easier
Like in BF4 when you try to stab someone ther is a QTE and a button you get to press to counter the knife with your own, ther was nothing wrong with the knife to begin with but its a small change and makes it easier for players
Il be on in a bit |
Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.02 17:39:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:EA may be a ****** company (Although they seem to be changing a little now), but they do publish some fantastic games. Are you mental? |
BARDAS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.02 17:42:00 -
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EA was awarded worst company two years in a row for a reason. I sure hope the business practices of that company don't start translating into CCP cause I will bail ship fast. I have not made an EA purchase since Dragon Age 2 was released and I won't hesitate to include others in the list if they start to get anti-consumer on us. Microsoft is most recently on my black balled list for the XB1 debacle.
http://consumerist.com/2013/04/09/ea-makes-worst-company-in-america-history-wins-title-for-second-year-in-a-row/ |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.02 17:44:00 -
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As long as EA continues working with Bioware, and DICE, I'll continue buying their games. BF3 was a step back compared to BFBC2. But it was decent, BF4 looks like a step in the right direction. Also, DICE is making Star Wars Battle Front 3, on top of that they have a new Mass Effect and Dragon Age coming out, so I won't hate on EA. They're getting better too. They're also working with PopCap to make Plants Vs Zombies Garden Warfare, and I gotta say, that looks fun. |
Deadeye Dic
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.07.02 17:58:00 -
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For all those who are saying that they don't buy EA games, your gaming is really limited. EA doesn't publish bad games, EA is horrible at customer service. Almost all of EA's titles win awards or are long running franchise titles, like most of their sports games. With rare exception, EA tends to buy quality studios as well. Unlike other companies, EA isn't afraid to spend money on game development. Companies like Dice and Bioware were two small to invest heavily on follow up games and large teams. They had to look some place else for investment. With rare exception, companies like Dice and EA can compete with larger companies like EA, but it's not often. Companies like EA and Activision have saturated the game market with so many games that it's almost impossible for independents or startups to get into the game. Unless they have a great idea to start with, in which case they either end up selling to EA or Activision or EA/Activision just creates their own version of the game, pour tons of money into it and crushes the little guy.
At the end of the day EA/Activision is the Wal-Mart of the gaming world. No one likes what Wal-Mart is doing to mom and pop business', but everyone still shops there. |
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