WOW lol im done your ignorance is insane.

Every corp worth a **** has hundreds of millions mainly because the loyal players put it there. What your not understanding is the districts have not replaced the isk initialy spent. When your being attacked or attacking the districts yield no pay out.

If you dont understand what ive been trying to tell you get the **** off the forums, you just made yourself sound completely stupid.

I didnt say they cant leave the wallet I said they dont leave the wallet moron. Why dont you figure out how things work before you make stupid comments on things you know NOTHING about.

I really dont think you noobs understand how much isk was p*ssed away when PC started, hence what I mean by you know nothing and you just sound idiotic.

When PC started hundreds of millions were spent on attacks, some cases Billions. considering a districts pay out was only 8mill a day... WE LOST MORE THEN WE MADE DUMB ASSES. Understand now?

You 2 need to go read up on things in the war room i'm done trying to explain to 2 idiots how PC works.

Quit blameing PC and the players in it for your lack of skill. K? k. Instead of running your mouth why dont you start attacking districts and see how much money you lose and dont get back. Until then, I'm done with you.

Umm 1 of those 3 main powers is my alliance, pretty sure i know what im talking about.

Just another reason to have squadless options for pubmatches.

In my experience, almost never the case.

80% of the time when you see a "good" squad leave a battle it is because a squad member disconnected or someone just Xed up and they backed out to pick them up.

19.99999% of the time they got called to a PC or had some other better **** to do.

the other .000001% of the time may be them being pussies, but... TBH if they backed out because they were afraid of the other squad, they wouldn't have helped you win anyway.

Just "lol".

Nice way to change the subject but none of it was about how PC worked. Not even this thread was about how PC worked.

What about just matching squads with other squads, and lone players with other lone players.

How hard could THAT be?

I've been getting pretty frustrated lately because of this... I've been playing since open beta and have had some incredibly good battles where both teams duke it out and the battle is super close and super fun.

But recently a new trend has occurred, the pubstomp!

This isn't happening because the matchmaking system is so bad, ok maybe partly the reason but the other reason and most frequent reason is because of a select few, the pu**ies.

Multiple battles over the weekend went something like this... I enter the warbarge and see that the teams are pretty evenly matched, 6man sqd of xxxx on our team, 6man sqd of xxxx on their team (xxxx=good corp) the battles looked as if they'd be extremely fun and close and then the pu**ies get sand in their clam and one of the 6man xxxx squads leaves the battle leaving a bunch of non squaded newberries to face the other dominant and now way better stacked team.

I can only imagine two reasons this is happening, 1. You're a pu**y or 2. You're a pu**y who's scared to lose proto gear and won't run a battle where your facing a decent opponent because you may lose said proto gear and even more so you're such a pu**y that you won't run anything besides proto gear in a pub battle.

Ok, I've vented now and I feel better but just know, if your squad leaves a battle because of the opposition, you're a pu**y, pu**y

Yep, this is what you get when the game is based on gear and even worse having to skill up to that gear.


Note: playing people better than you doesn't mean they are better because the game mechanics reward them for grinding. Better means you actually put a good group together to win via strat.

This game rarely displays that.

Guaranteed the premade squad of known proto geared corpmates will win the game. Everyone else truly ends up being carried. I've been on the winning side and it is every bit as boring as being on the losing side.

Grind, grind, grind to the top or the game means nothing until then and then you have to find others who are also already ground to the top of the gear list.

I love tactics and strat but they noticeably mean nothing in this game where otherwise you might argue over what wins the game.

True, but what about 2 months, 6months, a year? You could try the game, decide you don't like it and forget about it for several months. Once you get back in you will have forgotten whatever you learned about the game, spend your SP for useless stuff and get utterly destroyed by people who know what they're doing without even a slight chance of catching up to the way too high level of play anytime soon.

Come on CCP, why not test out squadless options for the modes for a few weeks? I guarantee you aren't going to make matchmaking work like it should anytime soon, I don't think any developer has cracked it yet. So while we wait for you to roll out whatever it is you have planned, just implement no-squad options for each mode and see how it works.


- Limited segregation
- No more team-stacking pubstomps against those not in squads
- Consistent battles match after match; Squads know they will face squads, solo know they will only face solo.
- Easing academy players into standard matches is not as traumatic
- Gameplay balance is significantly increased
- Players in squads have more fun fighting others in squads
- Player enjoyment factor skyrockets which = more profit.


I really miss the days of the closed beta when team stacking pubstomps were somewhat rare. I remember having fun rivalries with certain players that I would come across from time to time. It felt more like a small community and I looked forward to running into these players again. Plus back then there was no blob spawning, so there was a lot more personal 1v1 fights going on, rather than the 1v10 we have now and almost a guaranteed suicide if you stray from the pack.

For the most part, extreme team-stacking pubstomps didn't start happening until near the end of Chromosome, when corps were starting to get ready for PC. And it hasn't slowed down one bit since (significantly worse now due to 6 player squads).


It's great you are concerned and working on matchmaking CCP, but for the time being we need a quick and dirty solution that will have a positive impact on MM balance, and no-squad options is that solution.

I've been getting pretty frustrated lately because of this... I've been playing since open beta and have had some incredibly good battles where both teams duke it out and the battle is super close and super fun.

But recently a new trend has occurred, the pubstomp!

This isn't happening because the matchmaking system is so bad, ok maybe partly the reason but the other reason and most frequent reason is because of a select few, the pu**ies.

Multiple battles over the weekend went something like this... I enter the warbarge and see that the teams are pretty evenly matched, 6man sqd of xxxx on our team, 6man sqd of xxxx on their team (xxxx=good corp) the battles looked as if they'd be extremely fun and close and then the pu**ies get sand in their clam and one of the 6man xxxx squads leaves the battle leaving a bunch of non squaded newberries to face the other dominant and now way better stacked team.

I can only imagine two reasons this is happening, 1. You're a pu**y or 2. You're a pu**y who's scared to lose proto gear and won't run a battle where your facing a decent opponent because you may lose said proto gear and even more so you're such a pu**y that you won't run anything besides proto gear in a pub battle.

Ok, I've vented now and I feel better but just know, if your squad leaves a battle because of the opposition, you're a pu**y, pu**y