Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 5 post(s) |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
161
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 05:17:00 -
[61] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:I am working on a rewrite of matchmaking as we speak. We share the same concern. What is the goals you are trying to achieve when rewriting the matchmaking? Are you trying to balance skill? SP? WP? Prototype vs Prototype? Shorter queue times? I understand matchmaking is very complex, but also you can't please everyone. What is CCP trying to achieve here? Well the goal is simple, create an even probability for a side to win or lose with the least dependence on individual players. How that is achieved I will write about in a dev blog when we are further along with our simulation. What about just matching squads with other squads, and lone players with other lone players.
How hard could THAT be?
|
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
183
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 10:31:00 -
[62] - Quote
It's all well and good limiting matches to Proto only, STD only, ADV only.
What about mixed squads, what if, as a player with weaker gear I WANT to fight Protoheads? |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
476
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 14:24:00 -
[63] - Quote
I would imagine that in a match where Proto was allowed, anything would be allowed.
It wouldn't work the other way around though to give newbs or people looking to just grind ISK a more or less even playing field. |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
805
|
Posted - 2013.07.02 14:38:00 -
[64] - Quote
I dont see what everyone is going on about, protogear does not affect the outcome of the game.. Because both sides can have protogear at the same time and on average both sides should.....
Now, lets name something that both sides are not as likely to have the same of.
You guessed it, teamwork/squads.
Making matches based on gear only is like chopping off your arm when you have frostbite on your foot.
However..
People like playing with others and queueing solo is BORING.. So how do you seperate players based on skill? I've see a few ideas, Lifetime Total WP is one, Average WP is a bad idea as someone can MCC AFK and get that down.
However, my idea was having a newbie match and a pro match. You can queue for both if you want. The newbie match pays out like 50 ISk/WP and the pro match pays out 200 ISK/WP.
So then, most squads will gravitate towards the 200 Isk matches because they know together they can do well, this will leave all you solo people and newbie squads to gravitate towards the 50 isk/wp match and your experience will improve. |
BOUNTYHUNTER187
Mcalpines Fusiliers
6
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 23:12:00 -
[65] - Quote
iv being playing the game with the new patch and its a pain in the arse because knew the seasoned players are even harder to kill because they can dodge your bullets even faster and hit u with max out weapons. first thing don't add anything new like weapons,suits,equipment, etc to the game until u fix the main equipment. have all the main equipment balanced before u start adding things because once the main equipment is balance anything new that is OP can be nerfed down to the balance of the main equipment so everything is balance. but when the game is balanced you should only add drop suits to the game so each race has all of there LIGHT,MEDIUM,HEAVY, drop suits then start to bring in the other stuff like guns,equipment, etc.
what id like to see with the matchmaking and should of being done from the start. us should have it locked down to a matchmaking of BEGINNER,NOVICE,SEMI PRO,PRO,SEASONED, and all out WAR for players that just want to jump in to battles with any players
1. ACADEMY - JUST GETTING STARTED 2. BEGINNER - 3,000,000 3. NOVICE - 6,000,000 4. SEMI PRO - 9,000,000 5. PRO - 12,000,000 6. SEASONED - 15,000,000 7. WAR - ANY SP TYPE
then a least everyone with the same SP can fight each other with the same SP then they can earn there strips and go up through the ranks. and if u do this CCP you'l see the game flooded with new players and players willing to put in the time and then the game will get off the road of destruction its on.
and would like to hear back from a dev |
Son Down
SamsClub
29
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 23:17:00 -
[66] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:I am working on a rewrite of matchmaking as we speak. We share the same concern. What is the goals you are trying to achieve when rewriting the matchmaking? Are you trying to balance skill? SP? WP? Prototype vs Prototype? Shorter queue times? I understand matchmaking is very complex, but also you can't please everyone. What is CCP trying to achieve here? Well the goal is simple, create an even probability for a side to win or lose with the least dependence on individual players. How that is achieved I will write about in a dev blog when we are further along with our simulation.
It is this mode of Dev thinking that resulted in the catastrophe we now have, after this game peaked with Chromosome. "With the least dependence on individual players". Artificially leveling the skill required to be better at gun game, and making it appeal to a larger player base. Shame on you.
|
STABBEY
WarRavens League of Infamy
60
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 23:22:00 -
[67] - Quote
Son Down wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:I am working on a rewrite of matchmaking as we speak. We share the same concern. What is the goals you are trying to achieve when rewriting the matchmaking? Are you trying to balance skill? SP? WP? Prototype vs Prototype? Shorter queue times? I understand matchmaking is very complex, but also you can't please everyone. What is CCP trying to achieve here? Well the goal is simple, create an even probability for a side to win or lose with the least dependence on individual players. How that is achieved I will write about in a dev blog when we are further along with our simulation. It is this mode of Dev thinking that resulted in the catastrophe we now have, after this game peaked with Chromosome. "With the least dependence on individual players". Artificially leveling the skill required to be better at gun game, and making it appeal to a larger player base. Shame on you.
Umm you just made no sense at all, not even a little bit. "Artificially leveling the skill required to be better at gun game" Dah Fuq does that mean? Only the player himself can determine his gun game and/or improve it. No1 can do it for a player. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
631
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 23:24:00 -
[68] - Quote
BOUNTYHUNTER187 wrote:iv being playing the game with the new patch and its a pain in the arse because knew the seasoned players are even harder to kill because they can dodge your bullets even faster and hit u with max out weapons. first thing don't add anything new like weapons,suits,equipment, etc to the game until u fix the main equipment. have all the main equipment balanced before u start adding things because once the main equipment is balance anything new that is OP can be nerfed down to the balance of the main equipment so everything is balance. but when the game is balanced you should only add drop suits to the game so each race has all of there LIGHT,MEDIUM,HEAVY, drop suits then start to bring in the other stuff like guns,equipment, etc.
what id like to see with the matchmaking and should of being done from the start. us should have it locked down to a matchmaking of BEGINNER,NOVICE,SEMI PRO,PRO,SEASONED, and all out WAR for players that just want to jump in to battles with any players
1. BEGINNER - 3,000,000 2. NOVICE - 6,000,000 3. SEMI PRO - 9,000,000 4. PRO - 12,000,000 5. SEASONED - 15,000,000 6. WAR - ANY SP TYPE
then a least everyone with the same SP can fight each other with the same SP then they can earn there strips and go up through the ranks. and if u do this CCP you'l see the game flooded with new players and players willing to put in the time and then the game will get off the road of destruction its on.
and would like to hear back from a dev SP is a bad system as some people might take a break and end up in a higher tier while their actual performance has decreased due to not playing the game.
No matchmaking system should just look at one individual parameter and start throwing players together based on it. This is bound to fail at fixing the problem. |
AnALogginS
S.e.V.e.N.
15
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 23:26:00 -
[69] - Quote
You can thank PC and the games broken economy for that. The mega corps have endless wallets now. And only give a crap about themselves. They dont even care about the well being of the game. If they have better gear thats great. And if they have more money thats great. Thats all thats going through there heads when teams full of the chumps pubstomping all day and show our new players the door. PC money should not be able to leave PC |
Ynned Ivanova
Decrepid Old Sods
14
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 23:33:00 -
[70] - Quote
Really liking the SP based thang.
About as even as yout'll get it Ithink. |
|
BOUNTYHUNTER187
Mcalpines Fusiliers
6
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 23:35:00 -
[71] - Quote
Malkai Inos wrote:BOUNTYHUNTER187 wrote:iv being playing the game with the new patch and its a pain in the arse because knew the seasoned players are even harder to kill because they can dodge your bullets even faster and hit u with max out weapons. first thing don't add anything new like weapons,suits,equipment, etc to the game until u fix the main equipment. have all the main equipment balanced before u start adding things because once the main equipment is balance anything new that is OP can be nerfed down to the balance of the main equipment so everything is balance. but when the game is balanced you should only add drop suits to the game so each race has all of there LIGHT,MEDIUM,HEAVY, drop suits then start to bring in the other stuff like guns,equipment, etc.
what id like to see with the matchmaking and should of being done from the start. us should have it locked down to a matchmaking of BEGINNER,NOVICE,SEMI PRO,PRO,SEASONED, and all out WAR for players that just want to jump in to battles with any players
1. BEGINNER - 3,000,000 2. NOVICE - 6,000,000 3. SEMI PRO - 9,000,000 4. PRO - 12,000,000 5. SEASONED - 15,000,000 6. WAR - ANY SP TYPE
then a least everyone with the same SP can fight each other with the same SP then they can earn there strips and go up through the ranks. and if u do this CCP you'l see the game flooded with new players and players willing to put in the time and then the game will get off the road of destruction its on.
and would like to hear back from a dev SP is a bad system as some people might take a break and end up in a higher tier while their actual performance has decreased due to not playing the game. No matchmaking system should just look at one individual parameter and start throwing players together based on it. This is bound to fail at fixing the problem.
you don't get that much passive SP so it wouldn't be that bad at all you stay off the game for 2 weeks you get 168,000 passive SP
|
STABBEY
WarRavens League of Infamy
60
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 23:41:00 -
[72] - Quote
AnALogginS wrote:You can thank PC and the games broken economy for that. The mega corps have endless wallets now. And only give a crap about themselves. They dont even care about the well being of the game. If they have better gear thats great. And if they have more money thats great. Thats all thats going through there heads when teams full of the chumps pubstomping all day and show our new players the door. PC money should not be able to leave PC
PC money dosent leave PC. You sir obviously have no idea how the system works.
All money made in PC stays in the corp wallet. Money made on an individual basis is usually just enough to cover the losses from the match.
Most of the people Proto stomping pub matches are the guys that DO NOT play PC because they are lacking the skill to kill anyone not wearing militia gear. |
Ynned Ivanova
Decrepid Old Sods
14
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 23:44:00 -
[73] - Quote
It would do much for the game i think. No more excuses, no more mass pub stomping and/or whining, individual skillsets being brought to the fore. |
Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
140
|
Posted - 2013.07.09 23:47:00 -
[74] - Quote
TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:CAPN' OBVIOUS wrote:I've been getting pretty frustrated lately because of this... I've been playing since open beta and have had some incredibly good battles where both teams duke it out and the battle is super close and super fun.
But recently a new trend has occurred, the pubstomp!
This isn't happening because the matchmaking system is so bad, ok maybe partly the reason but the other reason and most frequent reason is because of a select few, the pu**ies.
Multiple battles over the weekend went something like this... I enter the warbarge and see that the teams are pretty evenly matched, 6man sqd of xxxx on our team, 6man sqd of xxxx on their team (xxxx=good corp) the battles looked as if they'd be extremely fun and close and then the pu**ies get sand in their clam and one of the 6man xxxx squads leaves the battle leaving a bunch of non squaded newberries to face the other dominant and now way better stacked team.
I can only imagine two reasons this is happening, 1. You're a pu**y or 2. You're a pu**y who's scared to lose proto gear and won't run a battle where your facing a decent opponent because you may lose said proto gear and even more so you're such a pu**y that you won't run anything besides proto gear in a pub battle.
Ok, I've vented now and I feel better but just know, if your squad leaves a battle because of the opposition, you're a pu**y, pu**y CAPN' OBVIOUS wrote:But recently a new trend has occurred, the pubstomp! CAPN' OBVIOUS wrote:new trend This isn't new.
I have seen this a few times.
You look at the player lists see that both sides have a squad from some Corp. or other and when you all spawn in... Bam one squad leaves the match.
|
Son Down
SamsClub
29
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 00:06:00 -
[75] - Quote
STABBEY wrote:AnALogginS wrote:You can thank PC and the games broken economy for that. The mega corps have endless wallets now. And only give a crap about themselves. They dont even care about the well being of the game. If they have better gear thats great. And if they have more money thats great. Thats all thats going through there heads when teams full of the chumps pubstomping all day and show our new players the door. PC money should not be able to leave PC PC money dosent leave PC. You sir obviously have no idea how the system works. All money made in PC stays in the corp wallet. Money made on an individual basis is usually just enough to cover the losses from the match. Most of the people Proto stomping pub matches are the guys that DO NOT play PC because they are lacking the skill to kill anyone not wearing militia gear.
If you were actually around for Chromosome, Stabbey, you would remember an elite 3%, who with nothing but an AR, could go 33-1 in an ambush match, simply because they hit detection/aiming was less forgiving than it is now, where any 12 year COD 'tard can pick it up. That....is leveling a once upon a time skill based shooter, that was Chromosome. Now its more like Hello Kitty. |
General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
1653
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 00:10:00 -
[76] - Quote
CAPN' OBVIOUS wrote:I've been getting pretty frustrated lately because of this... I've been playing since open beta and have had some incredibly good battles where both teams duke it out and the battle is super close and super fun.
But recently a new trend has occurred, the pubstomp!
This isn't happening because the matchmaking system is so bad, ok maybe partly the reason but the other reason and most frequent reason is because of a select few, the pu**ies.
Multiple battles over the weekend went something like this... I enter the warbarge and see that the teams are pretty evenly matched, 6man sqd of xxxx on our team, 6man sqd of xxxx on their team (xxxx=good corp) the battles looked as if they'd be extremely fun and close and then the pu**ies get sand in their clam and one of the 6man xxxx squads leaves the battle leaving a bunch of non squaded newberries to face the other dominant and now way better stacked team.
I can only imagine two reasons this is happening, 1. You're a pu**y or 2. You're a pu**y who's scared to lose proto gear and won't run a battle where your facing a decent opponent because you may lose said proto gear and even more so you're such a pu**y that you won't run anything besides proto gear in a pub battle.
Ok, I've vented now and I feel better but just know, if your squad leaves a battle because of the opposition, you're a pu**y, pu**y
I usually only back out when a team mate does not make it into the game because of CCP's glitches. |
STABBEY
WarRavens League of Infamy
60
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 00:34:00 -
[77] - Quote
Son Down wrote:STABBEY wrote:AnALogginS wrote:You can thank PC and the games broken economy for that. The mega corps have endless wallets now. And only give a crap about themselves. They dont even care about the well being of the game. If they have better gear thats great. And if they have more money thats great. Thats all thats going through there heads when teams full of the chumps pubstomping all day and show our new players the door. PC money should not be able to leave PC PC money dosent leave PC. You sir obviously have no idea how the system works. All money made in PC stays in the corp wallet. Money made on an individual basis is usually just enough to cover the losses from the match. Most of the people Proto stomping pub matches are the guys that DO NOT play PC because they are lacking the skill to kill anyone not wearing militia gear. If you were actually around for Chromosome, Stabbey, you would remember an elite 3%, who with nothing but an AR, could go 33-1 in an ambush match, simply because they hit detection/aiming was less forgiving than it is now, where any 12 year COD 'tard can pick it up. That....is leveling a once upon a time skill based shooter, that was Chromosome. Now its more like Hello Kitty.
I've been here since the game came out. I think me and you have a language barrier because i still dont understand wth your trying to say. (No troll) |
THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD
69
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 00:38:00 -
[78] - Quote
FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Eno Raef wrote:Pubstomping has been going on for possibly every build and coordinated teams and players better adept at getting kills will most likely win their matches.
Having militia and standard only gear matches will reduce the degree of stomping, perhaps to an acceptable amount, even thought it won't remove it completely.
Gear matchmaking over complicate things. What about people (like me) who run ADV suit with proto weapons? Proto suits with exile AR? It separates the player base way too much. Please stop suggesting gear matchmaking. -XOXO I agree there is no way that will work, how would the matchmaking system know if I'm going to use my prototype Sentinel suit and Boundless HMG, or a Gallente basic light frame with a standard mass driver? |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
228
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 01:25:00 -
[79] - Quote
FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Eno Raef wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:I am working on a rewrite of matchmaking as we speak. We share the same concern. Militia and standard gear only matches seems like a great way. Sure some teams and players will likely always perform well but at least they won't have the gear advantage. I'd rather have a no squad game mode. This please. Gear is irrelevant when you have communication and greater amount of skill (good players) in the opposing team. Any top corp can easily pubstomp a bunch of randoms while using exile ARs. My std LAV can wreak a full team of random players using proto suits. Gear, K/D ratio, SP, it doesn't matter. Stomping will always exist if 6 man top corp squads are playing the game vs randoms. We only need this and more time in the academy, 10k WP is way too low to get out of the academy. -XOXO Wait,
Let me make a point on how it is the gear that cause proto stomps, while coordination just makes things worse
I have a STD CalSalt with all standard with a EHP of 481
Assuming one can fit it, a PROTO CalSalt, with 4 comp extenders, 2 enhanced plates, and one repper, with an EHP of 768.
The is almost 2x the HP on a very unused suit, not counting skills
2x HP could roughly translate into 2x the TTK.
So, provided that Protostomper avoid some shots, and with the added DPS of a proto gun, means that someone running that suit could take on 2 STD CalSalts.
While having gear tiers of usage shouldn't be the only way to prevent the stomping, it needs to be implemented so 3+ STD players are needed to go head to head with a Proto player. |
ugg reset
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
303
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 01:29:00 -
[80] - Quote
I don't care how much SP you have, everyone gets pub stopped. It only makes victory taste that much sweeter. |
|
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
228
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 01:35:00 -
[81] - Quote
THUNDERGROOVE wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:Eno Raef wrote:Pubstomping has been going on for possibly every build and coordinated teams and players better adept at getting kills will most likely win their matches.
Having militia and standard only gear matches will reduce the degree of stomping, perhaps to an acceptable amount, even thought it won't remove it completely.
Gear matchmaking over complicate things. What about people (like me) who run ADV suit with proto weapons? Proto suits with exile AR? It separates the player base way too much. Please stop suggesting gear matchmaking. -XOXO I agree there is no way that will work, how would the matchmaking system know if I'm going to use my prototype Sentinel suit and Boundless HMG, or a Gallente basic light frame with a standard mass driver? It would lock this fits, as if you ran out of stock, for that battle.
And lower level gear would be permitted into a higher tiered match.
Otherwise fats issue would be valid |
AnALogginS
S.e.V.e.N. Top Men.
18
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 01:40:00 -
[82] - Quote
STABBEY wrote:AnALogginS wrote:You can thank PC and the games broken economy for that. The mega corps have endless wallets now. And only give a crap about themselves. They dont even care about the well being of the game. If they have better gear thats great. And if they have more money thats great. Thats all thats going through there heads when teams full of the chumps pubstomping all day and show our new players the door. PC money should not be able to leave PC PC money dosent leave PC. You sir obviously have no idea how the system works. All money made in PC stays in the corp wallet. Money made on an individual basis is usually just enough to cover the losses from the match. Most of the people Proto stomping pub matches are the guys that DO NOT play PC because they are lacking the skill to kill anyone not wearing militia gear.
Oh it gos into the corp wallet? And the funds cant leave the corp wallet? From one to another as anyone sees fit? What the hell are you talking about... |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
641
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 01:40:00 -
[83] - Quote
BOUNTYHUNTER187 wrote:*snip for getting too long you don't get that much passive SP so it wouldn't be that bad at all you stay off the game for 2 weeks you get 168,000 passive SP and fixed me first post forgot to add ACADEMY True, but what about 2 months, 6months, a year? You could try the game, decide you don't like it and forget about it for several months. Once you get back in you will have forgotten whatever you learned about the game, spend your SP for useless stuff and get utterly destroyed by people who know what they're doing without even a slight chance of catching up to the way too high level of play anytime soon. |
STABBEY
WarRavens League of Infamy
65
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 01:46:00 -
[84] - Quote
AnALogginS wrote:STABBEY wrote:AnALogginS wrote:You can thank PC and the games broken economy for that. The mega corps have endless wallets now. And only give a crap about themselves. They dont even care about the well being of the game. If they have better gear thats great. And if they have more money thats great. Thats all thats going through there heads when teams full of the chumps pubstomping all day and show our new players the door. PC money should not be able to leave PC PC money dosent leave PC. You sir obviously have no idea how the system works. All money made in PC stays in the corp wallet. Money made on an individual basis is usually just enough to cover the losses from the match. Most of the people Proto stomping pub matches are the guys that DO NOT play PC because they are lacking the skill to kill anyone not wearing militia gear. Oh it gos into the corp wallet? And the funds cant leave the corp wallet? From one to another as anyone sees fit? What the hell are you talking about...
I didnt say they cant leave the wallet I said they dont leave the wallet moron. Why dont you figure out how things work before you make stupid comments on things you know NOTHING about. |
Clone Sixty
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 01:48:00 -
[85] - Quote
AnALogginS wrote:STABBEY wrote:AnALogginS wrote:You can thank PC and the games broken economy for that. The mega corps have endless wallets now. And only give a crap about themselves. They dont even care about the well being of the game. If they have better gear thats great. And if they have more money thats great. Thats all thats going through there heads when teams full of the chumps pubstomping all day and show our new players the door. PC money should not be able to leave PC PC money dosent leave PC. You sir obviously have no idea how the system works. All money made in PC stays in the corp wallet. Money made on an individual basis is usually just enough to cover the losses from the match. Most of the people Proto stomping pub matches are the guys that DO NOT play PC because they are lacking the skill to kill anyone not wearing militia gear. Oh it gos into the corp wallet? And the funds cant leave the corp wallet? From one to another as anyone sees fit? What the hell are you talking about...
Glad someone else saw that one.
What's the point in just saving all that ISK? You don't need that much for PC. Less with the coming changes. Sounds like your either full of it or fleecing your corp mates. |
AnALogginS
S.e.V.e.N. Top Men.
18
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 01:50:00 -
[86] - Quote
hooc roht wrote:CAPN' OBVIOUS wrote:I've been getting pretty frustrated lately because of this... I've been playing since open beta and have had some incredibly good battles where both teams duke it out and the battle is super close and super fun.
But recently a new trend has occurred, the pubstomp!
This isn't happening because the matchmaking system is so bad, ok maybe partly the reason but the other reason and most frequent reason is because of a select few, the pu**ies.
Multiple battles over the weekend went something like this... I enter the warbarge and see that the teams are pretty evenly matched, 6man sqd of xxxx on our team, 6man sqd of xxxx on their team (xxxx=good corp) the battles looked as if they'd be extremely fun and close and then the pu**ies get sand in their clam and one of the 6man xxxx squads leaves the battle leaving a bunch of non squaded newberries to face the other dominant and now way better stacked team.
I can only imagine two reasons this is happening, 1. You're a pu**y or 2. You're a pu**y who's scared to lose proto gear and won't run a battle where your facing a decent opponent because you may lose said proto gear and even more so you're such a pu**y that you won't run anything besides proto gear in a pub battle.
Ok, I've vented now and I feel better but just know, if your squad leaves a battle because of the opposition, you're a pu**y, pu**y nah matchmaking is the reason. I have 2.3 Sp spent and i go out use1 or 2 lives then sit in the MCC for the rest of the match if my team gets red lined. I do this because everyone has more SP then me and there is no point in giving them free kills. If my team is unwilling to win from the start i am not going to sacrifice myself for them...and i sure as hell am not going to sacrifice myself to help the other teams SP WP K/D ratio. You all have more SP then me. You all have Uber powers that i do not. You all can go **** yourselves.
And who could blame you. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
639
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 01:58:00 -
[87] - Quote
Come on CCP, why not test out squadless options for the modes for a few weeks? I guarantee you aren't going to make matchmaking work like it should anytime soon, I don't think any developer has cracked it yet. So while we wait for you to roll out whatever it is you have planned, just implement no-squad options for each mode and see how it works.
- Limited segregation - No more team-stacking pubstomps against those not in squads - Consistent battles match after match; Squads know they will face squads, solo know they will only face solo. - Easing academy players into standard matches is not as traumatic - Players in squads have more fun fighting others in squads - Player enjoyment factor skyrockets which = more profit.
I really miss the days of the closed beta when team stacking pubstomps were somewhat rare. I remember having fun rivalries with certain players that I would come across from time to time. It felt more like a small community and I looked forward to running into these players again. Plus back then there was no blob spawning, so there was a lot more personal 1v1 fights going on, rather than the 1v10 we have now and almost a guaranteed suicide if you stray from the pack.
For the most part, extreme team-stacking pubstomps didn't start happening until near the end of Chromosome, when corps were starting to get ready for PC. And it hasn't slowed down one bit since (significantly worse now due to 6 player squads).
It's great you are concerned and working on matchmaking CCP, but for the time being we need a quick and dirty solution that will have a positive impact on MM balance, and no-squad options is that solution.
|
STABBEY
WarRavens League of Infamy
65
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 02:01:00 -
[88] - Quote
Clone Sixty wrote:AnALogginS wrote:STABBEY wrote:AnALogginS wrote:You can thank PC and the games broken economy for that. The mega corps have endless wallets now. And only give a crap about themselves. They dont even care about the well being of the game. If they have better gear thats great. And if they have more money thats great. Thats all thats going through there heads when teams full of the chumps pubstomping all day and show our new players the door. PC money should not be able to leave PC PC money dosent leave PC. You sir obviously have no idea how the system works. All money made in PC stays in the corp wallet. Money made on an individual basis is usually just enough to cover the losses from the match. Most of the people Proto stomping pub matches are the guys that DO NOT play PC because they are lacking the skill to kill anyone not wearing militia gear. Oh it gos into the corp wallet? And the funds cant leave the corp wallet? From one to another as anyone sees fit? What the hell are you talking about... Glad someone else saw that one. What's the point in just saving all that ISK? You don't need that much for PC. Less with the coming changes. Sounds like your either full of it or fleecing your corp mates.
I really dont think you noobs understand how much isk was p*ssed away when PC started, hence what I mean by you know nothing and you just sound idiotic.
When PC started hundreds of millions were spent on attacks, some cases Billions. considering a districts pay out was only 8mill a day... WE LOST MORE THEN WE MADE DUMB ASSES. Understand now?
|
Clone Sixty
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 02:02:00 -
[89] - Quote
I envy you people that started in open beta.
You will be the only people who might have had the chance to play on an a perfectly level playing field. |
Clone Sixty
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2013.07.10 02:05:00 -
[90] - Quote
STABBEY wrote:Clone Sixty wrote:AnALogginS wrote:STABBEY wrote:AnALogginS wrote:You can thank PC and the games broken economy for that. The mega corps have endless wallets now. And only give a crap about themselves. They dont even care about the well being of the game. If they have better gear thats great. And if they have more money thats great. Thats all thats going through there heads when teams full of the chumps pubstomping all day and show our new players the door. PC money should not be able to leave PC PC money dosent leave PC. You sir obviously have no idea how the system works. All money made in PC stays in the corp wallet. Money made on an individual basis is usually just enough to cover the losses from the match. Most of the people Proto stomping pub matches are the guys that DO NOT play PC because they are lacking the skill to kill anyone not wearing militia gear. Oh it gos into the corp wallet? And the funds cant leave the corp wallet? From one to another as anyone sees fit? What the hell are you talking about... Glad someone else saw that one. What's the point in just saving all that ISK? You don't need that much for PC. Less with the coming changes. Sounds like your either full of it or fleecing your corp mates. I really dont think you noobs understand how much isk was p*ssed away when PC started, hence what I mean by you know nothing and you just sound idiotic. When PC started hundreds of millions were spent on attacks, some cases Billions. considering a districts pay out was only 8mill a day... WE LOST MORE THEN WE MADE DUMB ASSES. Understand now?
Being that some corps claim to have hundreds of millions stored up. So much that they can basically give away districts, no not really. Either your a liar or your corp is fail. Third option is that your leadership is fail.
Still, if all you do is store that ISK up and not reimburse the people fighting for you, I have to wonder why they do. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |