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BullsON Parade
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:05:00 -
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As jumping around as if you were on fire has become a popular fad for avoiding cannon fodder, I suggest this:
x2 dmg recieved while in mid air. You can still use this strat to avoid fire but keeps this game grounded and away from a halo style fps.
Discuss
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:07:00 -
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Well, what about strafing too?
Take the FPS silliness out of my SciFi War Sim. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:08:00 -
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I suggest aiming better, but that's not always an option. In those cases, I suggest committing suicide in a public area, just don't let station management catch you
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:08:00 -
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Stamina is already in place to stop bunnyhopping. Also, jumping while getting shot at is absolutely realistic. |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:09:00 -
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I'd suggest Decrease in accuracy by 50% or something rather than damage and/or if you get hit in air you lose all stamina. You just got hit by a bullet in the air you arent landing how you wanted to. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:09:00 -
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Aim where they're jumping so so yet jump into your fire, simple solutions work best. |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:09:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4 wrote:Stamina is already in place to stop bunnyhopping. Also, jumping while getting shot at is absolutely realistic.
see how he didnt land how he wanted to :P |
Sleepy Zan
Sleepytime Gorilla Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:11:00 -
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BURN IN HELL! |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:13:00 -
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Hop or drop. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:13:00 -
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BullsON Parade wrote:As jumping around as if you were on fire has become a popular fad for avoiding cannon fodder, I suggest this:
x2 dmg recieved while in mid air. You can still use this strat to avoid fire but keeps this game grounded and away from a halo style fps.
Discuss
Or you know just take the ability to jump your own height out of the game.
but then CCP would have to make straddle animations for jumping on boxes and going over rails.
Pretty sure CCP is incapable of doing that. |
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BullsON Parade
SamsClub
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:18:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Well, what about strafing too?
Take the FPS silliness out of my SciFi War Sim.
By that logic, there should be jet pack, worm holes, and jet boots. Now thats,! an fps |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:19:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:BURN IN HELL!
Scouts are OP and you know it, they need at least 3 more drastic nerfs before they're acceptable |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
467
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:23:00 -
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BullsON Parade wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Well, what about strafing too?
Take the FPS silliness out of my SciFi War Sim. By that logic, there should be jet pack, worm holes, and jet boots. Now thats,! an fps
Jet boots?
I'd be cool with Jet Packs on one condition, they're like the San Andreas jet packs (which is to say that they are fairly slow and not the greatest at maneuverability). Oh, and if I can kill the user by one shotting the LAV sized hitbox of a pack on their back providing propulsion.
Also, we've already got wormholes, re: Drop Uplinks. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:23:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:BURN IN HELL! Scouts are OP and you know it, they need at least 3 more drastic nerfs before they're acceptable
Just a note:
yes i want hops nerfed....for every class but Scouts.
Scouts should be shouting for this as well when a minmatar assault can run as fast as the fastest scout build.
Bunny hopping assault and logis have destroyed the scout class as much as anything. |
BullsON Parade
SamsClub
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:26:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:BullsON Parade wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Well, what about strafing too?
Take the FPS silliness out of my SciFi War Sim. By that logic, there should be jet pack, worm holes, and jet boots. Now thats,! an fps Jet boots? I'd be cool with Jet Packs on one condition, they're like the San Andreas jet packs (which is to say that they are fairly slow and not the greatest at maneuverability). Oh, and if I can kill the user by one shotting the LAV sized hitbox of a pack on their back providing propulsion. Also, we've already got wormholes, re: Drop Uplinks.
That was dripping with sarcasm.... Avoidance over aiming skill= bad fps |
Daylon Daxx
DUST University
Ivy League
40
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:27:00 -
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BullsON Parade wrote:As jumping around as if you were on fire has become a popular fad for avoiding cannon fodder, I suggest this:
x2 dmg recieved while in mid air. You can still use this strat to avoid fire but keeps this game grounded and away from a halo style fps.
Discuss
I have a simple solution....
STOP SHOOTING AT ME!!!!  |
Shadowswipe
WarRavens
League of Infamy
130
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:28:00 -
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As a sniper, I welcome you to jump... I know right where you are going to land and might even get there to line up a headshot before you land. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
469
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:29:00 -
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BullsON Parade wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:BullsON Parade wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Well, what about strafing too?
Take the FPS silliness out of my SciFi War Sim. By that logic, there should be jet pack, worm holes, and jet boots. Now thats,! an fps Jet boots? I'd be cool with Jet Packs on one condition, they're like the San Andreas jet packs (which is to say that they are fairly slow and not the greatest at maneuverability). Oh, and if I can kill the user by one shotting the LAV sized hitbox of a pack on their back providing propulsion. Also, we've already got wormholes, re: Drop Uplinks. That was dripping with sarcasm.... Avoidance over aiming skill= bad fps
Well then, allow me to agree with you then.
I still hope for Dust to lean more towards SciFi War Sim than silly bunnyhopping, strafing FPS trash like most of the rest of the saturated market. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
155
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:31:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:BURN IN HELL! Scouts are OP and you know it, they need at least 3 more drastic nerfs before they're acceptable Just a note: yes i want hops nerfed....for every class but Scouts. Scouts should be shouting for this as well when a minmatar assault can run as fast as the fastest scout build. Bunny hopping assault and logis have destroyed the scout class as much as anything.
Another note:
Scouts should be able to run while crouched.
If CCP wants to make a ninja/rogue class then it should make a ninja/rogue class not the BS it has now which is basically an assault with less health. |
Eno Raef
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:40:00 -
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The jumping mechanic is foolish. I would prefer the jumping height and distance not be as extreme. Unfortunately for those of us that prefer a little more realism, CCP has designed map terrains around this extreme jumping mechanic. If the foolishly high jumping was removed, a good amount of map terrain would have been created in vain. |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:42:00 -
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Eno Raef wrote:If the foolishly high jumping was removed
It's almost as if our little human foot soldiers were actually cloned "super" soldiers wearing futuristic body armor that amplifies its wearers physical capabilities.
Hmmm. |
Rigor Mordis
Imperial Populicide Legion
Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:45:00 -
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I'm pretty sure that there is something like this already in place. I have scored several "gift" kills with sniper rifles on clones trying to jump off of a structure or even just jumping while sprinting across an open area. Now granted, most people don't hop until they have taken damage, but I call them gifts because there is NO WAY that my shot even hit the target much less scored a death-dealing headshot. Its just like magic. The round turns "smart" because the target is airborne.  
With that said, I think people get screwed by the hoppers at close range. The smgs and pistols do not swing (aim) fast enough to counter a bouncing shotgunner or flaylock tuber unless you are hipfiring in which case one will likely need both help and luck to come out alive. And, with that said, one only has themselves and their team to blame for said enemy to have approached undetected.
In all, I think the jumping being tied to stamina is the right way to go. If your strategy is to be a hopper, then you must burn a mod slot for regeneration, and you have to skill the biotics and cardiac regulation. A 5% max stamina boost isn't anything but with the 15% possible boost to recovery, its one or two more jumps or sprints to either get behind, or come out from behind that little bit of cover then run a mod on top of it. IDK how many times I been suckered into chasing a scout with a militia shotgun around a corner, only to have the slippery turd be in mid-air as I rounded the corner and deal me a doodoo blast to the face. Bravo Mr. Scout, Bravo.
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KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
155
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:48:00 -
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While i think jumping makes sense (and height too we are super soldiers) getting hit midair should have consequences. Even if it means getting spun around or smoe crap so you arent going the way you were before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhvtID8uzTU&feature=youtu.be&t=35s
( i turn your video against you)
and raise you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8xTJxr3hLQ
(if you dont think bullets hit at that force you are wrong physics FTW)
This video at 2:20 cuz it was awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTQm4AU3caY |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:49:00 -
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Eno Raef wrote:The jumping mechanic is foolish. I would prefer the jumping height and distance not be as extreme. Unfortunately for those of us that prefer a little more realism, CCP has designed map terrains around this extreme jumping mechanic. If the foolishly high jumping was removed, a good amount of map terrain would have been created in vain.
CCP could make a straddle and/or climb mechanic if they were not so incompetent. |
Eno Raef
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:53:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Eno Raef wrote:If the foolishly high jumping was removed It's almost as if our little human foot soldiers were actually cloned "super" soldiers wearing futuristic body armor that amplifies its wearers physical capabilities. Hmmm.
I see what you're getting at but to clarify, not all the species are human.
Aside from the trivial...
Regardless of our opinions, CCP probably shouldn't remove this mechanic since the terrain is designed around jumping. That was a more important statement than my opinion of the jumping as foolishly high. As such, Game mechanics are more important than having a cool story, bro. |
Viktor Zokas
187.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:53:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I suggest aiming better, but that's not always an option. In those cases, I suggest committing suicide in a public area, just don't let station management catch you
It's strictly forbidden. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4238
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:54:00 -
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Viktor Zokas wrote:It's strictly forbidden.
PHUQ DA POLEIZ |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:54:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:I'd suggest Decrease in accuracy by 50% or something rather than damage and/or if you get hit in air you lose all stamina. You just got hit by a bullet in the air you arent landing how you wanted to.
Exactly. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
446
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:59:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Sleepy Zan wrote:BURN IN HELL! Scouts are OP and you know it, they need at least 3 more drastic nerfs before they're acceptable Just a note: yes i want hops nerfed....for every class but Scouts. Scouts should be shouting for this as well when a minmatar assault can run as fast as the fastest scout build. Bunny hopping assault and logis have destroyed the scout class as much as anything.
How anyone thinks bunny hopping is an issue in this game only suggest that peoples aim in this game is utter crap. Sorry but given the extremely slow pace of movement and the laughably predictable jumping hitting your target is easy as this
Put you gun where they are going to land and fire as they drop back down. |
Eno Raef
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
4
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:03:00 -
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hooc roht wrote:Eno Raef wrote:The jumping mechanic is foolish. I would prefer the jumping height and distance not be as extreme. Unfortunately for those of us that prefer a little more realism, CCP has designed map terrains around this extreme jumping mechanic. If the foolishly high jumping was removed, a good amount of map terrain would have been created in vain. CCP could make a straddle and/or climb mechanic if they were not so incompetent.
As other players have mentioned, Dust clones could be super soldiers so as far as the story goes, they should have the finger strength to scale cliffs. A hurdling mechanic is common in other FPS such as BF, COD, and other FPS. |
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