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Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:10:00 -
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I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower.
I bet u get kill by four AR but im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of player that were complain about. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all try a different weapon like the Scrambler and were going to explore that if ppl are complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but Cooldown and HBUPS is add it. so tell me which SAR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more kick the damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that just plain of suck that shooting him with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill with the same gun it call skill if u play the game everyday like they do and get at ur aiming maybe u can do the same thing kick there *** with the same gun And don't make excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person are u forgetting that his Armor and Shield might be greater than ur or u were trying to gun down a heavy with massive armor and shield or proto suit and logic suit.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2128
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:15:00 -
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Grammatical Error belonging to Cordera Ray strikes you perfectly, wrecking for Serious Headache |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
128
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:16:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Grammatical Error belonging to Cordera Ray strikes you perfectly, wrecking for Serious Headache I couldn't read it all either |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:22:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Grammatical Error belonging to Cordera Ray strikes you perfectly, wrecking for Serious Headache
then ur stupid that u cant read or u cant admitted on what gun that u got killed that what i trying to say that don't be a jack*** about it u know what i said look at those weapon and tell me which of those have u been killed by the most |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:25:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Grammatical Error belonging to Cordera Ray strikes you perfectly, wrecking for Serious Headache I couldn't read it all either
Dude that give me that Grammer Crap All what i saying is Which of those Weapons have u been kill by the most so don't be a jerk because u cant simple something that doesn't make sense but u can tell what it mean. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
828
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:26:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Grammatical Error belonging to Cordera Ray strikes you perfectly, wrecking for Serious Headache I couldn't read it all either Dude that give me that Grammer Crap All what i saying is Which of those Weapons have u been kill by the most so don't be a jerk because u cant simple something that doesn't make sense but u can tell what it mean.
If you're asking what weapons have I been killed by the most, and which do I see in the killfeeds the most, it has to be the AR. Hands down.
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Hel Zazaku
BetaMax. CRONOS.
21
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:29:00 -
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That doesn't make sense but u can tell what it mean. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
549
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:30:00 -
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Ar is the most used weapon because it is very versatile.
It is good at everything but not great at anything. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
532
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:30:00 -
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OMG my 10 year old nephew has better grammar than the OP. |
Cody Sietz
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
269
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:30:00 -
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Just because alot of people use it, doesn't mean its OP.
However, lots of people will use a weapon if its OP. |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2132
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:31:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Grammatical Error belonging to Cordera Ray strikes you perfectly, wrecking for Serious Headache I couldn't read it all either Dude that give me that Grammer Crap All what i saying is Which of those Weapons have u been kill by the most so don't be a jerk because u cant simple something that doesn't make sense but u can tell what it mean. If you're asking what weapons have I been killed by the most, and which do I see in the killfeeds the most, it has to be the AR. Hands down. Oh, that's what he was asking.
Flaylocks, ARs, and LAVs for me. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
532
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:31:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Grammatical Error belonging to Cordera Ray strikes you perfectly, wrecking for Serious Headache I couldn't read it all either Dude that give me that Grammer Crap All what i saying is Which of those Weapons have u been kill by the most so don't be a jerk because u cant simple something that doesn't make sense but u can tell what it mean. I get killed by mostly ARs. |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
576
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:32:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower.
I bet u get kill by four AR but im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of player that were complain about. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all try a different weapon like the Scrambler and were going to explore that if ppl are complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but Cooldown and HBUPS is add it. so tell me which SAR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more kick the damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that just plain of suck that shooting him with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill with the same gun it call skill if u play the game everyday like they do and get at ur aiming maybe u can do the same thing kick there *** with the same gun And don't make excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person are u forgetting that his Armor and Shield might be greater than ur or u were trying to gun down a heavy with massive armor and shield or proto suit and logic suit.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out.
Allow me to translate, ( I have a master's degree in gibberish)
Here we go.
" The assault rifle is not OP, I am a fanboy, I have provided stats that everyone probably already knows, I created a thread to complain about people complaining. My understanding of the word " irony " is limited, and yet I thought that I should come onto these forums and confuse everyone."
Your welcome.
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Moren DeKaza
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
6
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:32:00 -
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Regardless the dude got his point across. The weapons arn't Oped, its just that everyone used them because they all thought it was the "best gun" just like before when everyone considered the Duvolle "****" Rifle to be. Truth is if you speciallize and actually get good with a gun you should eventually dominate. Im sure if guys started kicking your ass with burst ARs people would say they was a ninja buff and start getting good with those too...naaah not happening. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
532
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:33:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower.
I bet u get kill by four AR but im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of player that were complain about. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all try a different weapon like the Scrambler and were going to explore that if ppl are complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but Cooldown and HBUPS is add it. so tell me which SAR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more kick the damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that just plain of suck that shooting him with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill with the same gun it call skill if u play the game everyday like they do and get at ur aiming maybe u can do the same thing kick there *** with the same gun And don't make excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person are u forgetting that his Armor and Shield might be greater than ur or u were trying to gun down a heavy with massive armor and shield or proto suit and logic suit.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. "and yet I thought that I should come onto these forums and confuse everyone." Well he sure accomplished that. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:34:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:OMG my 10 year old nephew has better grammar than the OP.
and I bet ur 10 year old nephew complain worst then at this game look man u either read it or don't I care less on what I wrote all I want is u to tell me what gun have u been kill by the most that is all don't put ur nephew in this discussion. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
828
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:34:00 -
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Moren DeKaza wrote:Regardless the dude got his point across. The weapons arn't Oped, its just that everyone used them because they all thought it was the "best gun" just like before when everyone considered the Duvolle "****" Rifle to be. Truth is if you speciallize and actually get good with a gun you should eventually dominate. Im sure if guys started kicking your ass with burst ARs people would say they was a ninja buff and start getting good with those too...naaah not happening.
You aren't actually attempting to suggest that the Tac AR wasn't OP are you? |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
532
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:34:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:OMG my 10 year old nephew has better grammar than the OP. and I bet ur 10 year old nephew complain worst then at this game look man u either read it or don't I care less on what I wrote all I want is u to tell me what gun have u been kill by the most that is all don't put ur nephew in this discussion. I tried to read it... It gave me brain cancer.... |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
532
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:35:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Moren DeKaza wrote:Regardless the dude got his point across. The weapons arn't Oped, its just that everyone used them because they all thought it was the "best gun" just like before when everyone considered the Duvolle "****" Rifle to be. Truth is if you speciallize and actually get good with a gun you should eventually dominate. Im sure if guys started kicking your ass with burst ARs people would say they was a ninja buff and start getting good with those too...naaah not happening. You aren't actually attempting to suggest that the Tac AR wasn't OP are you? I think he is lol. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2132
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:38:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Moren DeKaza wrote:Regardless the dude got his point across. The weapons arn't Oped, its just that everyone used them because they all thought it was the "best gun" just like before when everyone considered the Duvolle "****" Rifle to be. Truth is if you speciallize and actually get good with a gun you should eventually dominate. Im sure if guys started kicking your ass with burst ARs people would say they was a ninja buff and start getting good with those too...naaah not happening. You aren't actually attempting to suggest that the Tac AR wasn't OP are you? I think he is lol. Actually, now that I went over his data, he's trying to claim that the Scrambler Rifle was OP compared to the old Tac AR, I think.
So he can't for sentences, AND he's nuts. |
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Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:49:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Just because alot of people use it, doesn't mean its OP.
However, lots of people will use a weapon if its OP.
I was not bashing that ppl that are using the AR. I was trying to say that ppl need to stop complaining about AR that all. and i don't see what the problem u post a comment on what i wrote all i ask is which of those weapon of AR have u been kill by that it |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:51:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Grammatical Error belonging to Cordera Ray strikes you perfectly, wrecking for Serious Headache I couldn't read it all either Dude that give me that Grammer Crap All what i saying is Which of those Weapons have u been kill by the most so don't be a jerk because u cant simple something that doesn't make sense but u can tell what it mean. If you're asking what weapons have I been killed by the most, and which do I see in the killfeeds the most, it has to be the AR. Hands down. Oh, that's what he was asking. Flaylocks, ARs, and LAVs for me.
did i ever mention a Flaylock or lav i said AR get it right |
Sotapopthegrey gay
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:51:00 -
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undeadsoldier90 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower.
I bet u get kill by four AR but im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of player that were complain about. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all try a different weapon like the Scrambler and were going to explore that if ppl are complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but Cooldown and HBUPS is add it. so tell me which SAR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more kick the damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that just plain of suck that shooting him with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill with the same gun it call skill if u play the game everyday like they do and get at ur aiming maybe u can do the same thing kick there *** with the same gun And don't make excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person are u forgetting that his Armor and Shield might be greater than ur or u were trying to gun down a heavy with massive armor and shield or proto suit and logic suit.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. Allow me to translate, ( I have a master's degree in gibberish) Here we go. " The assault rifle is not OP, I am a fanboy, I have provided stats that everyone probably already knows, I created a thread to complain about people complaining. My understanding of the word " irony " is limited, and yet I thought that I should come onto these forums and confuse everyone." Your welcome.
" The assault rifle is not OP, I am a fanboy. I have provided stats that everyone probably already knows, I created a thread to complain about people complaining. My understanding of the word " irony " is limited, Yet I thought that I should come onto these forums and confuse everyone."
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KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
137
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:54:00 -
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I don't think ARs are OP i think a lot of other weapons are UP (im not just talking damage, it isn't everything). These include but are not limited to: HMG, MD, LR, Plasma Cannon. Damage is only an issue for one of these, many other factor play in to why others are UP. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:55:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Moren DeKaza wrote:Regardless the dude got his point across. The weapons arn't Oped, its just that everyone used them because they all thought it was the "best gun" just like before when everyone considered the Duvolle "****" Rifle to be. Truth is if you speciallize and actually get good with a gun you should eventually dominate. Im sure if guys started kicking your ass with burst ARs people would say they was a ninja buff and start getting good with those too...naaah not happening. You aren't actually attempting to suggest that the Tac AR wasn't OP are you? I think he is lol. Actually, now that I went over his data, he's trying to claim that the Scrambler Rifle was OP compared to the old Tac AR, I think. So he can't for sentences, AND he's nuts.
Ok for last time i wasn't claiming that a Scrambler Rifle are over power i saying is that why ppl don't complain about getting kill by those weapon instead of the AR ok. Really i know what i say about the Scrambler Rifle all i want u to look at is there a different between the Damage, ROF, Accuracy, Meta Level that all instead Know yes i did took liberty to go into game all i did is just compare them to AR that it. if u got problem with it then reply back. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
268
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:56:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower AR.
I bet u get kill by four AR that im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still Complain about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these two gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of people that were complaining. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all or try a different weapon like the Scrambler Rifle and were going to explore that if ppl still complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but im going to add the Cooldown and HBUPS( Which is Heat Build Up Per Second). so tell me which Scrambler AR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that u just plain of suck at shooting the person with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill that person with the same gun. it call skill ok try it, if u play the game everyday like everyone is which mean u should not have any problem what so ever on aiming and shooting ur enemy. And do not make an excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person with one of those five AR and some how he kill with same gun ur using. there no hit detection there nothing wrong with the aiming it just u.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out.
Its not that its OP its boring as **** to see everyone with them. I went back to shield tanking for a bit on my ALT and started using the AR its SOOOOO LAME. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.01 01:57:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:I don't think ARs are OP i think a lot of other weapons are UP (im not just talking damage, it isn't everything). These include but are not limited to: HMG, MD, LR, Plasma Cannon. Damage is only an issue for one of these, many other factor play in to why others are UP.
Ok but i didn't mention HMG, MD, LR, Plasma Cannon. Know what trying to say is Which of those AR have u been kill by and which of the Scrambler Rife which i posted on there have u kill by the most ur jumping off topic. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:00:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower AR.
I bet u get kill by four AR that im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still Complain about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these two gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of people that were complaining. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all or try a different weapon like the Scrambler Rifle and were going to explore that if ppl still complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but im going to add the Cooldown and HBUPS( Which is Heat Build Up Per Second). so tell me which Scrambler AR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that u just plain of suck at shooting the person with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill that person with the same gun. it call skill ok try it, if u play the game everyday like everyone is which mean u should not have any problem what so ever on aiming and shooting ur enemy. And do not make an excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person with one of those five AR and some how he kill with same gun ur using. there no hit detection there nothing wrong with the aiming it just u.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. Its not that its OP its boring as **** to see everyone with them. I went back to shield tanking for a bit on my ALT and started using the AR its SOOOOO LAME.
Ok so which AR have u been killed by the most then since u shield tanking for a bit it not lame to use an Assault it like saying in COD everyone running SMG instead of LMG and AR or Shotgun or pistol. that lame and boring. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:03:00 -
[29] - Quote
Sotapopthegrey gay wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower.
I bet u get kill by four AR but im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of player that were complain about. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all try a different weapon like the Scrambler and were going to explore that if ppl are complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but Cooldown and HBUPS is add it. so tell me which SAR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more kick the damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that just plain of suck that shooting him with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill with the same gun it call skill if u play the game everyday like they do and get at ur aiming maybe u can do the same thing kick there *** with the same gun And don't make excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person are u forgetting that his Armor and Shield might be greater than ur or u were trying to gun down a heavy with massive armor and shield or proto suit and logic suit.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. Allow me to translate, ( I have a master's degree in gibberish) Here we go. " The assault rifle is not OP, I am a fanboy, I have provided stats that everyone probably already knows, I created a thread to complain about people complaining. My understanding of the word " irony " is limited, and yet I thought that I should come onto these forums and confuse everyone." Your welcome. " The assault rifle is not OP, I am a fanboy. I have provided stats that everyone probably already knows, I created a thread to complain about people complaining. My understanding of the word " irony " is limited, Yet I thought that I should come onto these forums and confuse everyone."
So tell me why do ppl complain about AR and if u can give me honest reason. Know u went off topic what i wrote which is Which of those AR have u been killed by now i didn't say that they are OP that put that ppl that complain claim that it OP ok. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
533
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 02:07:00 -
[30] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:Sotapopthegrey gay wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower.
I bet u get kill by four AR but im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of player that were complain about. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all try a different weapon like the Scrambler and were going to explore that if ppl are complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but Cooldown and HBUPS is add it. so tell me which SAR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more kick the damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that just plain of suck that shooting him with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill with the same gun it call skill if u play the game everyday like they do and get at ur aiming maybe u can do the same thing kick there *** with the same gun And don't make excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person are u forgetting that his Armor and Shield might be greater than ur or u were trying to gun down a heavy with massive armor and shield or proto suit and logic suit.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. Allow me to translate, ( I have a master's degree in gibberish) Here we go. " The assault rifle is not OP, I am a fanboy, I have provided stats that everyone probably already knows, I created a thread to complain about people complaining. My understanding of the word " irony " is limited, and yet I thought that I should come onto these forums and confuse everyone." Your welcome. " The assault rifle is not OP, I am a fanboy. I have provided stats that everyone probably already knows, I created a thread to complain about people complaining. My understanding of the word " irony " is limited, Yet I thought that I should come onto these forums and confuse everyone." So tell me why do ppl complain about AR Because it kills them. |
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
128
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:08:00 -
[31] - Quote
Everyone gets killed by AR the most. It is the most common weapon. If you can aim at all you can get easy kills. This is why its refered to as easy mode.
Its not really easy mode as it takes some skill to use. It just far outshines any other weapon designed to kill infantry. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:19:00 -
[32] - Quote
Kane Fyea wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Sotapopthegrey gay wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower.
I bet u get kill by four AR but im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of player that were complain about. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all try a different weapon like the Scrambler and were going to explore that if ppl are complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but Cooldown and HBUPS is add it. so tell me which SAR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more kick the damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that just plain of suck that shooting him with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill with the same gun it call skill if u play the game everyday like they do and get at ur aiming maybe u can do the same thing kick there *** with the same gun And don't make excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person are u forgetting that his Armor and Shield might be greater than ur or u were trying to gun down a heavy with massive armor and shield or proto suit and logic suit.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. Allow me to translate, ( I have a master's degree in gibberish) Here we go. " The assault rifle is not OP, I am a fanboy, I have provided stats that everyone probably already knows, I created a thread to complain about people complaining. My understanding of the word " irony " is limited, and yet I thought that I should come onto these forums and confuse everyone." Your welcome. " The assault rifle is not OP, I am a fanboy. I have provided stats that everyone probably already knows, I created a thread to complain about people complaining. My understanding of the word " irony " is limited, Yet I thought that I should come onto these forums and confuse everyone." So tell me why do ppl complain about AR Because it kills them.
it have to be more than just that because it kill them. i wonder does many of them running different primary weapon beside the AR or that they cant get kill with the AR. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1478
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:24:00 -
[33] - Quote
Anyone complaining about getting killed by an AR in a first person shooter is simply a tool. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:44:00 -
[34] - Quote
People are always going to complain.
My question is, have you use any other weapon?
The people "complaining" are mostly trying to convey the point that the AR is too good at everything in comparison to anything else. Only a few weapons hit at a longer range, and thanks to the TAR nerf, none of them are very good CQC. While the AR pretty much covers everything else. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
534
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:45:00 -
[35] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:People are always going to complain.
My question is, have you use any other weapon?
The people "complaining" are mostly trying to convey the point that the AR is too good at everything in comparison to anything else. Only a few weapons hit at a longer range, and thanks to the TAR nerf, none of them are very good CQC. While the AR pretty much covers everything else. It's because the AR is supposed to be good at anything but not great at anything. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
132
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:54:00 -
[36] - Quote
Kane Fyea wrote:P14GU3 wrote:People are always going to complain.
My question is, have you use any other weapon?
The people "complaining" are mostly trying to convey the point that the AR is too good at everything in comparison to anything else. Only a few weapons hit at a longer range, and thanks to the TAR nerf, none of them are very good CQC. While the AR pretty much covers everything else. It's because the AR is supposed to be good at anything but not great at anything. Hence why the "easymode" comments?
And its borderline great. But I agree. Other weapons need buffs, not AR getting nerfed.
Can I haz my MD back?
And what happened to lasers? |
Cody Sietz
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
269
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Posted - 2013.07.01 02:58:00 -
[37] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Just because alot of people use it, doesn't mean its OP.
However, lots of people will use a weapon if its OP. I was not bashing that ppl that are using the AR. I was trying to say that ppl need to stop complaining about AR that all. and i don't see what the problem u post a comment on what i wrote all i ask is which of those weapon of AR have u been kill by that it I was trying to reinforce your point. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
61
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 03:03:00 -
[38] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower AR.
I bet u get kill by four AR that im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still Complain about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these two gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of people that were complaining. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all or try a different weapon like the Scrambler Rifle and were going to explore that if ppl still complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but im going to add the Cooldown and HBUPS( Which is Heat Build Up Per Second). so tell me which Scrambler AR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that u just plain of suck at shooting the person with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill that person with the same gun. it call skill ok try it, if u play the game everyday like everyone is which mean u should not have any problem what so ever on aiming and shooting ur enemy. And do not make an excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person with one of those five AR and some how he kill with same gun ur using. there no hit detection there nothing wrong with the aiming it just u.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. What do you use? |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
161
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:11:00 -
[39] - Quote
undeadsoldier90 wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower.
I bet u get kill by four AR but im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of player that were complain about. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all try a different weapon like the Scrambler and were going to explore that if ppl are complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but Cooldown and HBUPS is add it. so tell me which SAR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more kick the damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that just plain of suck that shooting him with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill with the same gun it call skill if u play the game everyday like they do and get at ur aiming maybe u can do the same thing kick there *** with the same gun And don't make excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person are u forgetting that his Armor and Shield might be greater than ur or u were trying to gun down a heavy with massive armor and shield or proto suit and logic suit.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. Allow me to translate, ( I have a master's degree in gibberish) Here we go. " The assault rifle is not OP, I am a fanboy, I have provided stats that everyone probably already knows, I created a thread to complain about people complaining. My understanding of the word " irony " is limited, and yet I thought that I should come onto these forums and confuse everyone." Your welcome. Hmm... I think the OP done a great job considering that the government and other groups love brain dead people :) |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
578
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:19:00 -
[40] - Quote
Flayocks, grenades, and lavs. No one has gun game anymore. ( few exceptions)
Fusedflaylockllav514 |
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
136
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:26:00 -
[41] - Quote
undeadsoldier90 wrote:Flayocks, grenades, and lavs. No one has gun game anymore. ( few exceptions)
Fusedflaylockllav514 Where can I get this fusedflaylockllav you speak of?
And how much AUR will it cost me? |
undeadsoldier90
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
578
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:34:00 -
[42] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:undeadsoldier90 wrote:Flayocks, grenades, and lavs. No one has gun game anymore. ( few exceptions)
Fusedflaylockllav514 Where can I get this fusedflaylockllav you speak of? And how much AUR will it cost me?
You didn't hear??? Ccp released it today for 500k AUR.
It is a logi lav that shoots flux grenades, and when you run people over it does explosive dmg. Did I also mention it has 8 highs and 7 lows? Caldari based of course....
Also it is made of plastic like material so swarms and av grenades can't lock.... also the flux grenades have a 14 meter radius. |
SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:35:00 -
[43] - Quote
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Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:43:00 -
[44] - Quote
Colonel Killar wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower AR.
I bet u get kill by four AR that im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still Complain about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these two gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of people that were complaining. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all or try a different weapon like the Scrambler Rifle and were going to explore that if ppl still complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but im going to add the Cooldown and HBUPS( Which is Heat Build Up Per Second). so tell me which Scrambler AR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that u just plain of suck at shooting the person with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill that person with the same gun. it call skill ok try it, if u play the game everyday like everyone is which mean u should not have any problem what so ever on aiming and shooting ur enemy. And do not make an excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person with one of those five AR and some how he kill with same gun ur using. there no hit detection there nothing wrong with the aiming it just u.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. What do you use?
What do i see is something that post and i want it to know what AR that u get kill by that i what i see. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
61
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Posted - 2013.07.01 03:47:00 -
[45] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:Colonel Killar wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower AR.
I bet u get kill by four AR that im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still Complain about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these two gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of people that were complaining. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all or try a different weapon like the Scrambler Rifle and were going to explore that if ppl still complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but im going to add the Cooldown and HBUPS( Which is Heat Build Up Per Second). so tell me which Scrambler AR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that u just plain of suck at shooting the person with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill that person with the same gun. it call skill ok try it, if u play the game everyday like everyone is which mean u should not have any problem what so ever on aiming and shooting ur enemy. And do not make an excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person with one of those five AR and some how he kill with same gun ur using. there no hit detection there nothing wrong with the aiming it just u.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. What do you use? What do i see is something that post and i want it to know what AR that u get kill by that i what i see. can you use better grammar? |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
449
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Posted - 2013.07.01 04:03:00 -
[46] - Quote
I do believe that the OP has been wholly corrupted by the influence of texting.
I mourn for the future of humanity |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
1480
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:07:00 -
[47] - Quote
P14GU3 wrote:People are always going to complain.
My question is, have you use any other weapon?
The people "complaining" are mostly trying to convey the point that the AR is too good at everything in comparison to anything else. Only a few weapons hit at a longer range, and thanks to the TAR nerf, none of them are very good CQC. While the AR pretty much covers everything else.
And the problem with the AR being versatile is??
This is my point....the ARs' role and effectiveness in Dust is no different than any other fps out there. I'm not sure what guys are expecting. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
62
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:28:00 -
[48] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:P14GU3 wrote:People are always going to complain.
My question is, have you use any other weapon?
The people "complaining" are mostly trying to convey the point that the AR is too good at everything in comparison to anything else. Only a few weapons hit at a longer range, and thanks to the TAR nerf, none of them are very good CQC. While the AR pretty much covers everything else. And the problem with the AR being versatile is?? This is my point....the ARs' role and effectiveness in Dust is no different than any other fps out there. I'm not sure what guys are expecting. just a slight damage nerf and it will be balenced with everything else. |
Welcoming Grave
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
8
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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:43:00 -
[49] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RgN9ijwE4 |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
13
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Posted - 2013.07.01 15:37:00 -
[50] - Quote
Colonel Killar wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Colonel Killar wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:I was reading some forum about how ppl are complaining about AR overpower in stuff let take a reality check there no overpower AR.
I bet u get kill by four AR that im going to show u what the damage, accuracy, ROF, Meta level
Assault Rifle: Damage 34.0, Accuracy 55.5, ROF 750.RPM, Meta Level 1 GEK -38 Assault Rifle: Damage 35.7, Accuracy 56.1, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 5 DUVOLLE Assault Rifle: Damage 37.4, Accuracy 56.8, ROF 750 RPM, Meta Level 8
Now I bet u get kill by GEK -38 and DUVOLLE AR in every game u play. So why complain maybe u don't have a better suit with better armor or better shield to combated against those two AR.
Since I know that CCP did Buff the hell out of the TAC AR but i wonder do u still Complain about those Rifle let take a look.
GLU-5 TAC AR: Damage 75.0, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.4, Meta Level 6 DUVOLLE TAC AR: Damage 78.5, ROF 400.0 RPM, Accuracy 47.8, Meta Level 9
Now these two gun took a big Nerf because of the amount of people that were complaining. U either Learn how to use them or don't use them at all or try a different weapon like the Scrambler Rifle and were going to explore that if ppl still complaining about those too. Now im going to do the same thing which i did with AR but im going to add the Cooldown and HBUPS( Which is Heat Build Up Per Second). so tell me which Scrambler AR have u been kill by so far in this game that pisses u off.
Scramble Rifle: Damage 72.0, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.2, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 1 CRW-04 Scramble Rifle: Damage 75.6, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 57.7, HBUPS 60.0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC, Meta Level 5 Imperial Scrambler Rifle: Damage 79.2, ROF 705.9 RPM, Accuracy 58.2, HBUPS 60,0 and Cooldown 6.0 SEC Metal Level 8
Now what did u learn about those three weapon it clear that Scramble rifle can put u down a lot faster then AR they have more damage than AR and can kill u a lot faster then AR. So why are u still complaining like any 12 year old would do, that AR are overpower or that u just plain of suck at shooting the person with same gun and wondering why i didn't kill that person with the same gun. it call skill ok try it, if u play the game everyday like everyone is which mean u should not have any problem what so ever on aiming and shooting ur enemy. And do not make an excuses about Hit Detection because there is no evidence what so ever that if u shot that person with one of those five AR and some how he kill with same gun ur using. there no hit detection there nothing wrong with the aiming it just u.
Take ur time to look of those weapon that i put up and post which one of these weapon have u been kill by and have u been complain about getting kill by the same weapon day in and day out. What do you use? What do i see is something that post and i want it to know what AR that u get kill by that i what i see. can you use better grammar?
Look man grammer has nothing to do with what I wrote if u cant read it or understand it then don't reply most of the ppl that been posting on here cleary understand what im trying to say don't make excuses on grammer it just stupid so what it going to be? Act stupid or tell me which gun that name on this post that u been kill by in which u already told me that it AR but which gun of the AR class have u been kill by the most ok. |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
461
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Posted - 2013.07.01 15:50:00 -
[51] - Quote
This is quite possibly my favorite Sig from the Eve O forums.
Mr Epeen wrote:There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'. Congratulations, dumbass!
So very true. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
13
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Posted - 2013.07.01 15:51:00 -
[52] - Quote
For those of u that really really don't understand what im trying to say is u do know I wrote names of those gun and what this whole topic is about is do u complain about the AR if so which one of those gun u get kill by the most. Now I don't want to hear that it AR if u say that u talking about All of the AR. Look at names that I post of the assault all I want is have u been kill by Standard AR, Gek-38 AR or Duovolle AR very simple. next was the Tac AR which one of those have u been kill by the most just name it that it Glu-5 Tac AR or Duovolle Tac AR very simple again all u had to do name those AR on the post so I can comfirm which one that u been kill they most, so if u want to bring stupidity into this be my guess because I not going to waste my time reading what u have to say. also the scrambler rifle were in mix too that I brought up too like try to say on this post which one of those gun have u been kill by the most.
do not add HMG, MD,LR, Flaylock, Plasma Cannon Shotgun, SMG and Sniper I never mention them in post.
What really trying to say is The name of those AR and Scrambler Rifle u been kill by the most just name them that is all.
P.S. If u choose to brag about how bad my grammer is u either read it and put it into ur own word to correct of what might said or not or don't post a comment at all. ok |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
876
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Posted - 2013.07.01 15:58:00 -
[53] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:Look man grammer has nothing to do with what I wrote if u cant read it or understand it then don't reply most of the ppl that been posting on here cleary understand what im trying to say don't make excuses on grammer it just stupid so what it going to be? Act stupid or tell me which gun that name on this post that u been kill by in which u already told me that it AR but which gun of the AR class have u been kill by the most ok.
I'm going to have to nit pick here... if you are writing... then grammar has something to do with it. That said, if we are willing to do the extra work then we can decipher your encryption. |
Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
45
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:02:00 -
[54] - Quote
I got the biggest headache trying to read the OP. Go back to kindergarten and play with letter blocks. But because I'm bored, I will try to translate.
"Stop arguing about the Assault Rifles, because they are proven to be only overused, not overpowered. Here are some stats from the game to prove it."
The only gun I get killed by the most is the GEK, and that's because of it's overabundance due to the recent TAC nerf leaving many who specced into ARs with no other viable options.
Cordera, why is it so hard to type like a normal, coherent person? Are you seriously unable to write like this? By typing nonsensically, you turn would be supporters away because the post comes off as ignorant. Help us help you. |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
273
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:02:00 -
[55] - Quote
man i read like the first 3 sentences and i just had to stop, the grammar is a bit too much for me, if english is OP's first language then its a sad sad day today. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
13
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:03:00 -
[56] - Quote
Crash Monster wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Look man grammer has nothing to do with what I wrote if u cant read it or understand it then don't reply most of the ppl that been posting on here cleary understand what im trying to say don't make excuses on grammer it just stupid so what it going to be? Act stupid or tell me which gun that name on this post that u been kill by in which u already told me that it AR but which gun of the AR class have u been kill by the most ok. I'm going to have to nit pick here... if you are writing... then grammar has something to do with it. That said, if we are willing to do the extra work then we can decipher your encryption.
See this what im talking if u want to be a jack**** on here because u cant read something that I wrote why reply then it just made it clear on what really u guys to answer not on grammer. the topic is what gun that I mention on there have u been kill by if u don't want to tell me then don't bother me of replying back. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
131
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:06:00 -
[57] - Quote
Great pasting of numbers in your original post Cordera, but you completely forgot to talk about the gun-mechanics. How much peeps can you kill with a scrambler rifle before it overheats? How much peeps can you kill while spraying your AR? Please give me a better breakdown.
If you're going to talk about a specific weapon being OverPowered or not by ignoring all other weapons (except for the Srambler Rifle) is silly. There is a possibility you're comparing two OP weapons with each other and maybe one weapon is more OP than the other. (I know I have to add this: I'm not saying any weapon is OP or not, just pointing something out)
Please try again.
PS: My grammar is better than yours. |
Balzich Rotaine
Rotaine Shipping Inc
113
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:07:00 -
[58] - Quote
I haven't red a single wurd u guys rote but myne is I think broken cuz it always turn red when I'm shoot it. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
876
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:07:00 -
[59] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:See this what im talking if u want to be a jack**** on here because u cant read something that I wrote why reply then it just made it clear on what really u guys to answer not on grammer. the topic is what gun that I mention on there have u been kill by if u don't want to tell me then don't bother me of replying back.
Dude, it's a forum, and I was rather polite about the concept to the point of suggesting people can read it if they can be bothered to try.
I'm a scout... I get killed by everything. I have noticed the Duvolle seems to surprise me with it's range at times... as I'd generally like to get away before letting my face get blown off. |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
274
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:09:00 -
[60] - Quote
well on the other hand the new update will make long range killings by AR's redundant especially at its maximum range haha |
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Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
65
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:16:00 -
[61] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Look man grammer has nothing to do with what I wrote if u cant read it or understand it then don't reply most of the ppl that been posting on here cleary understand what im trying to say don't make excuses on grammer it just stupid so what it going to be? Act stupid or tell me which gun that name on this post that u been kill by in which u already told me that it AR but which gun of the AR class have u been kill by the most ok. I'm going to have to nit pick here... if you are writing... then grammar has something to do with it. That said, if we are willing to do the extra work then we can decipher your encryption. See this what im talking if u want to be a jack**** on here because u cant read something that I wrote why reply then it just made it clear on what really u guys to answer not on grammer. the topic is what gun that I mention on there have u been kill by if u don't want to tell me then don't bother me of replying back. wait jack*ss will only have *** not ****.
two Questions Is english your first language?
Do you have full mental capacities?
If you answer no to either question I will not troll you. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
13
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:34:00 -
[62] - Quote
RKKR wrote:Great pasting of numbers in your original post Cordera, but you completely forgot to talk about the gun-mechanics. How much peeps can you kill with a scrambler rifle before it overheats? How much peeps can you kill while spraying your AR? Please give me a better breakdown.
If you're going to talk about a specific weapon being OverPowered or not by ignoring all other weapons (except for the Srambler Rifle) is silly. There is a possibility you're comparing two OP weapons with each other and maybe one weapon is more OP than the other. (I know I have to add this: I'm not saying any weapon is OP or not, just pointing something out)
Please try again.
PS: My grammar is better than yours.
How much peeps can i kill with a Scrambler rifle let see aleast 2 to 5 kill unless u don't spam trigger button I use the scrambler and I know how many ppl I can kill with it.
How much peeps can I kill with AR while spraying let see im going to say two different way if ur hip firing 3 to 4 depend on enemy and aiming down the sight 4 to 5 also depending on the enemy that ur shooting at. Now does that answer ur question because im not bragging about my grammer. All im saying is Which of the Five name AR that I posted have u been kill by the most which I hate repeating the same thing over and over and over again until u answer my question is it the Standard AR, Gek- 38 AR, Duvolle AR or Two TAC AR. Until them stop being an idiot if u cant read it don't reply that is all im saying. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
65
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:42:00 -
[63] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:RKKR wrote:Great pasting of numbers in your original post Cordera, but you completely forgot to talk about the gun-mechanics. How much peeps can you kill with a scrambler rifle before it overheats? How much peeps can you kill while spraying your AR? Please give me a better breakdown.
If you're going to talk about a specific weapon being OverPowered or not by ignoring all other weapons (except for the Srambler Rifle) is silly. There is a possibility you're comparing two OP weapons with each other and maybe one weapon is more OP than the other. (I know I have to add this: I'm not saying any weapon is OP or not, just pointing something out)
Please try again.
PS: My grammar is better than yours. How much peeps can i kill with a Scrambler rifle let see aleast 2 to 5 kill unless u don't spam trigger button I use the scrambler and I know how many ppl I can kill with it. How much peeps can I kill with AR while spraying let see im going to say two different way if ur hip firing 3 to 4 depend on enemy and aiming down the sight 4 to 5 also depending on the enemy that ur shooting at. Now does that answer ur question because im not bragging about my grammer. All im saying is Which of the Five name AR that I posted have u been kill by the most which I hate repeating the same thing over and over and over again until u answer my question is it the Standard AR, Gek- 38 AR, Duvolle AR or Two TAC AR. Until them stop being an idiot if u cant read it don't reply that is all im saying. GEK-38 is the most proliferated but the Duvolle is more dangerous and a pain that takes little skill to use
Either the Duvolle or GEK-38
To those Who don't get what he's saying he wants to know what AR kills you the most. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
14
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:46:00 -
[64] - Quote
Colonel Killar wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:[quote=RKKR]Great pasting of numbers in your original post Cordera, but you completely forgot to talk about the gun-mechanics. How much peeps can you kill with a scrambler rifle before it overheats? How much peeps can you kill while spraying your AR? Please give me a better breakdown.
If you're going to talk about a specific weapon being OverPowered or not by ignoring all other weapons (except for the Srambler Rifle) is silly. There is a possibility you're comparing two OP weapons with each other and maybe one weapon is more OP than the other. (I know I have to add this: I'm not saying any weapon is OP or not, just pointing something out)
Please try again.
PS: My grammar is better than yours. How much peeps can i kill with a Scrambler rifle let see aleast 2 to 5 kill unless u don't spam trigger button I use the scrambler and I know how many ppl I can kill with it. How much peeps can I kill with AR while spraying let see im going to say two different way if ur hip firing 3 to 4 depend on enemy and aiming down the sight 4 to 5 also depending on the enemy that ur shooting at. Now does that answer ur question because im not bragging about my grammer. All im saying is Which of the Five name AR that I posted have u been kill by the most which I hate repeating the same thing over and over and over again until u answer my question is it the Standard AR, Gek- 38 AR, Duvolle AR or Two TAC AR. Until them stop being an idiot if u cant read it don't reply that is all im saying. GEK-38 is the most proliferated but the Duvolle is more dangerous and a pain that take little skill to use
Either the Duvolle or GEK-38
To those Who don't get what he's saying he wants to know what AR kills you the most.[/quot
That is all u had to say was one of those five gun that u kill by most see it wasn't that hard for u to say that. |
Pandora Mars
Afterlife Overseers
56
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Posted - 2013.07.01 16:58:00 -
[65] - Quote
Ok, I can't really pretend I'm an English teacher, because it's not even my native language, but... for God sake!
I had a hard time reading this, but if I'm not mistaking about your point... I pretty much agree about AR being "not OP". If anything, the Breach AR is disappointing and the Burst AR is definitely Underpowered. TAR's are just fine.
As I said several times, there are many other weapons silently asking for a buff, expecially Laser Rifles and Mass Drivers. This does not mean that full auto AR's are Overpowered.
We had the nerf hammer mashing our heads but it seems like we actually enjoy it. We need a Buff wave after the Nerf wave, balance is not just nerfing. And nerf after nerf we point our finger and claim "OP"... and we get another one.
If we keep following this line, we're risking a return of the Laser Rifles as the new OP weapon... without even buffing it (sarcasm here)! What I mean is that we need some rebalancing (buff some stuff) before summoning the mighty nerf hammer again. Then we will have a legit situatiional overview and will realize if that is really necessary.
The only thing I feel stands out of the line (for its effectiveness, not because it sucks) is the Flaylock Pistol... and probably the Caldari Logi suit, because it can be exploited to work as a Super Assault Suit. But here's all the things I think need an improvement:
-Light/Scout Dropsuits (CPU and slots) -Dropships -Laser Rifles -Mass Drivers -Burst AR (Seriously, who does use this? I see more Lasers than Burst AR's) -Nanite Injectors (probably fixed tomorrow, yay!) -Armor tanking (this patch might help here as well) -I'm missing something for sure...
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Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
65
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:02:00 -
[66] - Quote
Pandora Mars wrote:Ok, I can't really pretend I'm an English teacher, because it's not even my native language, but... for God sake! I had a hard time reading this, but if I'm not mistaking about your point... I pretty much agree about AR being "not OP". If anything, the Breach AR is disappointing and the Burst AR is definitely Underpowered. TAR's are just fine. As I said several times, there are many other weapons silently asking for a buff, expecially Laser Rifles and Mass Drivers. This does not mean that full auto AR's are Overpowered. We had the nerf hammer mashing our heads but it seems like we actually enjoy it. We need a Buff wave after the Nerf wave, balance is not just nerfing. And nerf after nerf we point our finger and claim "OP"... and we get another one. If we keep following this line, we're risking a return of the Laser Rifles as the new OP weapon... without even buffing it (sarcasm here)! What I mean is that we need some rebalancing (buff some stuff) before summoning the mighty nerf hammer again. Then we will have a legit situatiional overview and will realize if that is really necessary. The only thing I feel stands out of the line (for its effectiveness, not because it sucks) is the Flaylock Pistol... and probably the Caldari Logi suit, because it can be exploited to work as a Super Assault Suit. But here's all the things I think need an improvement: -Light/Scout Dropsuits (CPU and slots) -Dropships -Laser Rifles -Mass Drivers -Burst AR (Seriously, who does use this? I see more Lasers than Burst AR's) -Nanite Injectors (probably fixed tomorrow, yay!) -Armor tanking (this patch might help here as well) -I'm missing something for sure... Cal Logi needs it FP need 25% reduction to ROF
PG to vehicles needs to be like CPU to Vehicles is 5% bounus per level
Light and weapons, Agreed
Armor Tanking needs more help still to compete reduction to speed penalty or change penalty from speed to stamina. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
783
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:08:00 -
[67] - Quote
Look man, I know you're new to these forums and all but you really need to learn some simple etiquette. You may start a thread but you don't own the forum, so stop trying to tell people what they can or can't post. And if you can only post as coherently as you have been, don't be surprised that people complain about the legibility. Finally, if you insist on being so rude and aggressive towards everyone that replies (even some people that support you!), you aren't going to get other people responding to you very favourably.
Now, please don't go off on one at me for posting this - I am simply trying to help you get to grips better with this forum.
And for the record - Duvolle AR kills me more than any of those weapons and that's because lots of people use ARs and it's the best one. The fact it's expensive is meaningless because so many people have hundreds of millions of isk from the asset liquidation anyway. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
131
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:14:00 -
[68] - Quote
So you got like 30 lines of text and you just want to know which AR variant I'm getting the killed most with? What is the relation with the topic about 'there is nothing wrong with the AR?'. I don't really get your point? Are you tricking us? |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
15
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:18:00 -
[69] - Quote
Django Quik wrote:Look man, I know you're new to these forums and all but you really need to learn some simple etiquette. You may start a thread but you don't own the forum, so stop trying to tell people what they can or can't post. And if you can only post as coherently as you have been, don't be surprised that people complain about the legibility. Finally, if you insist on being so rude and aggressive towards everyone that replies (even some people that support you!), you aren't going to get other people responding to you very favourably.
Now, please don't go off on one at me for posting this - I am simply trying to help you get to grips better with this forum.
And for the record - Duvolle AR kills me more than any of those weapons and that's because lots of people use ARs and it's the best one. The fact it's expensive is meaningless because so many people have hundreds of millions of isk from the asset liquidation anyway.
thank telling me which AR that kill im glad but im not going to get off on because u told me what gun that u get kill by that all I want is for someone to tell me which gun they get kill by that is all without being a jerk about something that didn't make sense when clearly I ask which AR that kill u most which ppl that been posting on here just didn't get or couldn't understand and I done explain it to them over and over again. can u agree with that . and I never said I own this forum or telling ppl what to do im only said if u going to be jerk on here when u cant really tell me which AR that u been kill by. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
15
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:20:00 -
[70] - Quote
RKKR wrote:So you got like 30 lines of text and you just want to know which AR variant I'm getting the killed most with? What is the relation with the topic about 'there is nothing wrong with the AR?'. I don't really get your point? Are you tricking us?
no im saying which AR have u been killed by not getting the killed. Getting Killed by which AR have u been getting Killed by the enemy with. |
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Eno Raef
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
0
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:30:00 -
[71] - Quote
The AR is the most powerful weapon in Dust and the majority of players have known this since the beginning of closed bets. I don't know why players get so upset when other state this. CCP made it this way. The AR simply doesn't have many if any downsides.
If CCP lowered the rounds per magazine of this very precisely accurate weapon, it would be the best balance I could think of. This is 1050 total damage with not damage skills or mods. That would still gives a single magazine the accurate of taking out a heavy without headshots. But it gives plenty of damage to take out multiple medium suits.
With 40% extra damage, 30 rounds allows an accurate player to deal 1470 damage. That is plenty damage capability with a medium ranged weapon. The HMG and shotgun being CCP's CQC weapons with very short range, their high damage output may be acceptable to balance the much higher range of ARs. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
131
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:41:00 -
[72] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:RKKR wrote:So you got like 30 lines of text and you just want to know which AR variant I'm getting the killed most with? What is the relation with the topic about 'there is nothing wrong with the AR?'. I don't really get your point? Are you tricking us? no im saying which AR have u been killed by not getting the killed. Getting Killed by which AR have u been getting Killed by the enemy with. How does that prove your point that there is nothing wrong with the AR?
PS: Have you thought about using translate.google.com? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
227
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:49:00 -
[73] - Quote
It's overpowered when it's the only gun 99% of people are using. Why is it overpowered? Ungodly amount of damage compared to everything else, plus as usual, a damage bonus to headshots.
/your argument |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
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Eno Raef wrote:With 40% extra damage, 30 rounds allows an accurate player to deal 1470 damage. That is plenty damage capability with a medium ranged weapon. The HMG and shotgun being CCP's CQC weapons with very short range, their high damage output may be acceptable to balance the much higher range of ARs. You can't get 40% extra damage even with prof 5 and 5 damage mods (don't forget about the stacking penalty). |
semperfi1999
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:38:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Great pasting of numbers in your original post Cordera, but you completely forgot to talk about the gun-mechanics. How much peeps can you kill with a scrambler rifle before it overheats? How much peeps can you kill while spraying your AR? Please give me a better breakdown.
If you're going to talk about a specific weapon being OverPowered or not by ignoring all other weapons (except for the Srambler Rifle) is silly. There is a possibility you're comparing two OP weapons with each other and maybe one weapon is more OP than the other. (I know I have to add this: I'm not saying any weapon is OP or not, just pointing something out)
Please try again.
PS: My grammar is better than yours.
Well what you can kill and what you would normally kill are two completely different things. With the AR at most I have killed 3 ppl before reloading. With the IMP Scrambler I have killed 3 ppl before overheating (yes back to back). Usually in normal use of the AR you will get 1 kill per reload and 1 kill before overheating the scrambler. This is in normal use there are of course variations as noted but by and large this is approximately what happens (because some of the shots dont count due to hit detection as well).
TBH the AR is not OP now nor was it ever OP in chromosome. The TAC AR really wasnt OP but whatever doesnt matter since I use the scrambler. The scrambler is far better than people think it is. With its 88 dmg (when you have prof 4) per shot that means that I do 105 dmg to shields for every hit and 70 dmg to armor on every hit. Needless to say....I rarely see much of a difference in killing armor to killing shields and to top it off its charged shot lets me insta kill everything but heavies and proto suits.
The argument of ARs being OP is just becoming more and more stupid every time I see it. The AR will always be the standard go to weapon. Its the same with every other FPS game out there. The scrambler easily out dmgs the AR extremely quickly and the scrambler has 100% accuracy when ADS (no dispersion or recoil at all on the scrambler rifles) |
Mortal Maximus
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:39:00 -
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You know Coredera, i like what your saying, but the problem is not the gun, that is not anyone's problem, the real problem is the amount of people that equip the same dam guns, and you know what i wont be to long before battles are with everyone cloned with an assualt dropsuit and AR for battle. What i'm saying is if a battle of of 32 players 12 to 14 hold an assualt rifle people that want to spec into to something different would either be forced to use and assualt set or if don't want to die all the time use a tank, but with av grenades that my deter them from that option.... But you get what im saying with the amount of ppl using AR weapons, it just won't be long at all before everyone including me is equipped with an Assault Rifle. |
Th3rdSun
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:50:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:P14GU3 wrote:People are always going to complain.
My question is, have you use any other weapon?
The people "complaining" are mostly trying to convey the point that the AR is too good at everything in comparison to anything else. Only a few weapons hit at a longer range, and thanks to the TAR nerf, none of them are very good CQC. While the AR pretty much covers everything else. And the problem with the AR being versatile is?? This is my point....the ARs' role and effectiveness in Dust is no different than any other fps out there. I'm not sure what guys are expecting. just a slight damage nerf and it will be balenced with everything else.
ARs don't need a damage nerf,they need less total ammo,and ammo in the clip.This would make squads of AR guys move more tactically and would force them to focus fire on a single target instead of everyone trying to be John Rambo.This would also greatly increase the importance of the Logi/support role.
People keep saying nerf this and buff that when the solution is more simple than that.
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Jathniel
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:52:00 -
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TL;DR
Same for the thread.
Assault Rifles are fine. Maybe give 50 more RPM to the Tactical AR, and 15 more meters of range to the Burst AR. Idk wth to do with the Breach AR. Not happy with the range buff the full-autos got. If you give them range, you gotta increase the spread. But whatever, Assault Rifles are OVERALL fine.
Scrambler Rifles are fine too, don't mess with those. |
RKKR
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:56:00 -
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Mortal Maximus wrote:You know Coredera, i like what your saying, but the problem is not the gun, that is not anyone's problem, the real problem is the amount of people that equip the same dam guns, and you know what i wont be to long before battles are with everyone cloned with an assualt dropsuit and AR for battle. What i'm saying is if a battle of of 32 players 12 to 14 hold an assualt rifle people that want to spec into to something different would either be forced to use and assualt set or if don't want to die all the time use a tank, but with av grenades that my deter them from that option.... But you get what im saying with the amount of ppl using AR weapons, it just won't be long at all before everyone including me is equipped with an Assault Rifle.
What is he actually saying?
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Mortal Maximus
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:02:00 -
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Well, im saying if the battles don't get evened out where anyone could spec into whatever they want and not be killed for the most part by Range Trolls, then battles would soon have nothing but players with AR's |
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RKKR
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:07:00 -
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But what is Coredera trying to say? He's asking which AR kills us the most but for what? I |
Django Quik
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:11:00 -
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Mortal Maximus wrote:Well, im saying if the battles don't get evened out where anyone could spec into whatever they want and not be killed for the most part by Range Trolls, then battles would soon have nothing but players with AR's There are many weapons better and more interesting than the AR. It's just a familiar option that other FPS players can easily recognise. There will always be lots of them used for this reason but no one feels forced to use them (not since the tac was fixed anyway!). |
Cordera Ray
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:13:00 -
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RKKR wrote:But what is Coredera trying to say? He's asking which AR kills us the most but for what? I
And I see that u still don't understand what trying to say once again. Stadard AR, GEK-38 AR, DUVOLLE AR, GLU-5 TAC AR, AND DUVOLLE TAC AR. Which of those five have u been kill by since playing this game. don't be smart about it just tell me which of those five gun I mention have u been kill by to make this a lot more easier. |
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:14:00 -
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Sorry, not only Assualt Rifles, but Snipers Rifles and Mass Drivers, that is not a good thing at all |
Mortal Maximus
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:17:00 -
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DUVOLLE AR, GLU-5 TAC AR, AND DUVOLLE TAC AR are the assault rifles i've been killed by the most as far as assualt rifles are concerned and Duvolle AR is what i was killed the most by. |
Cordera Ray
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:23:00 -
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Mortal Maximus wrote:DUVOLLE AR, GLU-5 TAC AR, AND DUVOLLE TAC AR are the assault rifles i've been killed by the most as far as assualt rifles are concerned and Duvolle AR is what i was killed the most by.
Ok that all I need it was that.
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RKKR
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:25:00 -
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Cordera Ray wrote:RKKR wrote:But what is Coredera trying to say? He's asking which AR kills us the most but for what? I And I see that u still don't understand what trying to say once again. Stadard AR, GEK-38 AR, DUVOLLE AR, GLU-5 TAC AR, AND DUVOLLE TAC AR. Which of those five have u been kill by since playing this game. don't be smart about it just tell me which of those five gun I mention have u been kill by to make this a lot more easier.
After you tell me how that is going to help you? |
Knightshade Belladonna
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:31:00 -
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AR is not OP , It is the most widely used gun for being easily accessable, versatile , and effective. It is out ranged by many weapons , it has zero splash dmg , it can kick all over the place and can be a ***** to use in CQC. It is a fairly simple gun though, and does not require too much tactics to use.. that does not constitute as OPness. It is great in many situations , but there are plenty of situations where something else would perform better. People need to stop crying that they die by the most commonly used gun in almost all shooters.
And to answer OP , I die the most to snipers and flaylocks , but mostly snipers.. they love to zero in on my glowing rays of life. I'm an assault rifle logi bro 1st, AV second , Sniper 3rd.
And for the most common death by a particular assault rifle. I would have to say duvolle AR |
Colonel Killar
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:10:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:Colonel Killar wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:P14GU3 wrote:People are always going to complain.
My question is, have you use any other weapon?
The people "complaining" are mostly trying to convey the point that the AR is too good at everything in comparison to anything else. Only a few weapons hit at a longer range, and thanks to the TAR nerf, none of them are very good CQC. While the AR pretty much covers everything else. And the problem with the AR being versatile is?? This is my point....the ARs' role and effectiveness in Dust is no different than any other fps out there. I'm not sure what guys are expecting. just a slight damage nerf and it will be balenced with everything else. ARs don't need a damage nerf,they need less total ammo,and ammo in the clip.This would make squads of AR guys move more tactically and would force them to focus fire on a single target instead of everyone trying to be John Rambo.This would also greatly increase the importance of the Logi/support role. People keep saying nerf this and buff that when the solution is more simple than that. that works too I remember reading a thread earlier that seemed to do a better job at balancing than I do
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