Pages: 1 2 [3] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
65
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 16:16:00 -
[61] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:Look man grammer has nothing to do with what I wrote if u cant read it or understand it then don't reply most of the ppl that been posting on here cleary understand what im trying to say don't make excuses on grammer it just stupid so what it going to be? Act stupid or tell me which gun that name on this post that u been kill by in which u already told me that it AR but which gun of the AR class have u been kill by the most ok. I'm going to have to nit pick here... if you are writing... then grammar has something to do with it. That said, if we are willing to do the extra work then we can decipher your encryption. See this what im talking if u want to be a jack**** on here because u cant read something that I wrote why reply then it just made it clear on what really u guys to answer not on grammer. the topic is what gun that I mention on there have u been kill by if u don't want to tell me then don't bother me of replying back. wait jack*ss will only have *** not ****.
two Questions Is english your first language?
Do you have full mental capacities?
If you answer no to either question I will not troll you. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
13
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 16:34:00 -
[62] - Quote
RKKR wrote:Great pasting of numbers in your original post Cordera, but you completely forgot to talk about the gun-mechanics. How much peeps can you kill with a scrambler rifle before it overheats? How much peeps can you kill while spraying your AR? Please give me a better breakdown.
If you're going to talk about a specific weapon being OverPowered or not by ignoring all other weapons (except for the Srambler Rifle) is silly. There is a possibility you're comparing two OP weapons with each other and maybe one weapon is more OP than the other. (I know I have to add this: I'm not saying any weapon is OP or not, just pointing something out)
Please try again.
PS: My grammar is better than yours.
How much peeps can i kill with a Scrambler rifle let see aleast 2 to 5 kill unless u don't spam trigger button I use the scrambler and I know how many ppl I can kill with it.
How much peeps can I kill with AR while spraying let see im going to say two different way if ur hip firing 3 to 4 depend on enemy and aiming down the sight 4 to 5 also depending on the enemy that ur shooting at. Now does that answer ur question because im not bragging about my grammer. All im saying is Which of the Five name AR that I posted have u been kill by the most which I hate repeating the same thing over and over and over again until u answer my question is it the Standard AR, Gek- 38 AR, Duvolle AR or Two TAC AR. Until them stop being an idiot if u cant read it don't reply that is all im saying. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
65
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 16:42:00 -
[63] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:RKKR wrote:Great pasting of numbers in your original post Cordera, but you completely forgot to talk about the gun-mechanics. How much peeps can you kill with a scrambler rifle before it overheats? How much peeps can you kill while spraying your AR? Please give me a better breakdown.
If you're going to talk about a specific weapon being OverPowered or not by ignoring all other weapons (except for the Srambler Rifle) is silly. There is a possibility you're comparing two OP weapons with each other and maybe one weapon is more OP than the other. (I know I have to add this: I'm not saying any weapon is OP or not, just pointing something out)
Please try again.
PS: My grammar is better than yours. How much peeps can i kill with a Scrambler rifle let see aleast 2 to 5 kill unless u don't spam trigger button I use the scrambler and I know how many ppl I can kill with it. How much peeps can I kill with AR while spraying let see im going to say two different way if ur hip firing 3 to 4 depend on enemy and aiming down the sight 4 to 5 also depending on the enemy that ur shooting at. Now does that answer ur question because im not bragging about my grammer. All im saying is Which of the Five name AR that I posted have u been kill by the most which I hate repeating the same thing over and over and over again until u answer my question is it the Standard AR, Gek- 38 AR, Duvolle AR or Two TAC AR. Until them stop being an idiot if u cant read it don't reply that is all im saying. GEK-38 is the most proliferated but the Duvolle is more dangerous and a pain that takes little skill to use
Either the Duvolle or GEK-38
To those Who don't get what he's saying he wants to know what AR kills you the most. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
14
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 16:46:00 -
[64] - Quote
Colonel Killar wrote:Cordera Ray wrote:[quote=RKKR]Great pasting of numbers in your original post Cordera, but you completely forgot to talk about the gun-mechanics. How much peeps can you kill with a scrambler rifle before it overheats? How much peeps can you kill while spraying your AR? Please give me a better breakdown.
If you're going to talk about a specific weapon being OverPowered or not by ignoring all other weapons (except for the Srambler Rifle) is silly. There is a possibility you're comparing two OP weapons with each other and maybe one weapon is more OP than the other. (I know I have to add this: I'm not saying any weapon is OP or not, just pointing something out)
Please try again.
PS: My grammar is better than yours. How much peeps can i kill with a Scrambler rifle let see aleast 2 to 5 kill unless u don't spam trigger button I use the scrambler and I know how many ppl I can kill with it. How much peeps can I kill with AR while spraying let see im going to say two different way if ur hip firing 3 to 4 depend on enemy and aiming down the sight 4 to 5 also depending on the enemy that ur shooting at. Now does that answer ur question because im not bragging about my grammer. All im saying is Which of the Five name AR that I posted have u been kill by the most which I hate repeating the same thing over and over and over again until u answer my question is it the Standard AR, Gek- 38 AR, Duvolle AR or Two TAC AR. Until them stop being an idiot if u cant read it don't reply that is all im saying. GEK-38 is the most proliferated but the Duvolle is more dangerous and a pain that take little skill to use
Either the Duvolle or GEK-38
To those Who don't get what he's saying he wants to know what AR kills you the most.[/quot
That is all u had to say was one of those five gun that u kill by most see it wasn't that hard for u to say that. |
Pandora Mars
Afterlife Overseers
56
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 16:58:00 -
[65] - Quote
Ok, I can't really pretend I'm an English teacher, because it's not even my native language, but... for God sake!
I had a hard time reading this, but if I'm not mistaking about your point... I pretty much agree about AR being "not OP". If anything, the Breach AR is disappointing and the Burst AR is definitely Underpowered. TAR's are just fine.
As I said several times, there are many other weapons silently asking for a buff, expecially Laser Rifles and Mass Drivers. This does not mean that full auto AR's are Overpowered.
We had the nerf hammer mashing our heads but it seems like we actually enjoy it. We need a Buff wave after the Nerf wave, balance is not just nerfing. And nerf after nerf we point our finger and claim "OP"... and we get another one.
If we keep following this line, we're risking a return of the Laser Rifles as the new OP weapon... without even buffing it (sarcasm here)! What I mean is that we need some rebalancing (buff some stuff) before summoning the mighty nerf hammer again. Then we will have a legit situatiional overview and will realize if that is really necessary.
The only thing I feel stands out of the line (for its effectiveness, not because it sucks) is the Flaylock Pistol... and probably the Caldari Logi suit, because it can be exploited to work as a Super Assault Suit. But here's all the things I think need an improvement:
-Light/Scout Dropsuits (CPU and slots) -Dropships -Laser Rifles -Mass Drivers -Burst AR (Seriously, who does use this? I see more Lasers than Burst AR's) -Nanite Injectors (probably fixed tomorrow, yay!) -Armor tanking (this patch might help here as well) -I'm missing something for sure...
|
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
65
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 17:02:00 -
[66] - Quote
Pandora Mars wrote:Ok, I can't really pretend I'm an English teacher, because it's not even my native language, but... for God sake! I had a hard time reading this, but if I'm not mistaking about your point... I pretty much agree about AR being "not OP". If anything, the Breach AR is disappointing and the Burst AR is definitely Underpowered. TAR's are just fine. As I said several times, there are many other weapons silently asking for a buff, expecially Laser Rifles and Mass Drivers. This does not mean that full auto AR's are Overpowered. We had the nerf hammer mashing our heads but it seems like we actually enjoy it. We need a Buff wave after the Nerf wave, balance is not just nerfing. And nerf after nerf we point our finger and claim "OP"... and we get another one. If we keep following this line, we're risking a return of the Laser Rifles as the new OP weapon... without even buffing it (sarcasm here)! What I mean is that we need some rebalancing (buff some stuff) before summoning the mighty nerf hammer again. Then we will have a legit situatiional overview and will realize if that is really necessary. The only thing I feel stands out of the line (for its effectiveness, not because it sucks) is the Flaylock Pistol... and probably the Caldari Logi suit, because it can be exploited to work as a Super Assault Suit. But here's all the things I think need an improvement: -Light/Scout Dropsuits (CPU and slots) -Dropships -Laser Rifles -Mass Drivers -Burst AR (Seriously, who does use this? I see more Lasers than Burst AR's) -Nanite Injectors (probably fixed tomorrow, yay!) -Armor tanking (this patch might help here as well) -I'm missing something for sure... Cal Logi needs it FP need 25% reduction to ROF
PG to vehicles needs to be like CPU to Vehicles is 5% bounus per level
Light and weapons, Agreed
Armor Tanking needs more help still to compete reduction to speed penalty or change penalty from speed to stamina. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
783
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 17:08:00 -
[67] - Quote
Look man, I know you're new to these forums and all but you really need to learn some simple etiquette. You may start a thread but you don't own the forum, so stop trying to tell people what they can or can't post. And if you can only post as coherently as you have been, don't be surprised that people complain about the legibility. Finally, if you insist on being so rude and aggressive towards everyone that replies (even some people that support you!), you aren't going to get other people responding to you very favourably.
Now, please don't go off on one at me for posting this - I am simply trying to help you get to grips better with this forum.
And for the record - Duvolle AR kills me more than any of those weapons and that's because lots of people use ARs and it's the best one. The fact it's expensive is meaningless because so many people have hundreds of millions of isk from the asset liquidation anyway. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
131
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 17:14:00 -
[68] - Quote
So you got like 30 lines of text and you just want to know which AR variant I'm getting the killed most with? What is the relation with the topic about 'there is nothing wrong with the AR?'. I don't really get your point? Are you tricking us? |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
15
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 17:18:00 -
[69] - Quote
Django Quik wrote:Look man, I know you're new to these forums and all but you really need to learn some simple etiquette. You may start a thread but you don't own the forum, so stop trying to tell people what they can or can't post. And if you can only post as coherently as you have been, don't be surprised that people complain about the legibility. Finally, if you insist on being so rude and aggressive towards everyone that replies (even some people that support you!), you aren't going to get other people responding to you very favourably.
Now, please don't go off on one at me for posting this - I am simply trying to help you get to grips better with this forum.
And for the record - Duvolle AR kills me more than any of those weapons and that's because lots of people use ARs and it's the best one. The fact it's expensive is meaningless because so many people have hundreds of millions of isk from the asset liquidation anyway.
thank telling me which AR that kill im glad but im not going to get off on because u told me what gun that u get kill by that all I want is for someone to tell me which gun they get kill by that is all without being a jerk about something that didn't make sense when clearly I ask which AR that kill u most which ppl that been posting on here just didn't get or couldn't understand and I done explain it to them over and over again. can u agree with that . and I never said I own this forum or telling ppl what to do im only said if u going to be jerk on here when u cant really tell me which AR that u been kill by. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
15
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 17:20:00 -
[70] - Quote
RKKR wrote:So you got like 30 lines of text and you just want to know which AR variant I'm getting the killed most with? What is the relation with the topic about 'there is nothing wrong with the AR?'. I don't really get your point? Are you tricking us?
no im saying which AR have u been killed by not getting the killed. Getting Killed by which AR have u been getting Killed by the enemy with. |
|
Eno Raef
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
0
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 17:30:00 -
[71] - Quote
The AR is the most powerful weapon in Dust and the majority of players have known this since the beginning of closed bets. I don't know why players get so upset when other state this. CCP made it this way. The AR simply doesn't have many if any downsides.
If CCP lowered the rounds per magazine of this very precisely accurate weapon, it would be the best balance I could think of. This is 1050 total damage with not damage skills or mods. That would still gives a single magazine the accurate of taking out a heavy without headshots. But it gives plenty of damage to take out multiple medium suits.
With 40% extra damage, 30 rounds allows an accurate player to deal 1470 damage. That is plenty damage capability with a medium ranged weapon. The HMG and shotgun being CCP's CQC weapons with very short range, their high damage output may be acceptable to balance the much higher range of ARs. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
131
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 17:41:00 -
[72] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:RKKR wrote:So you got like 30 lines of text and you just want to know which AR variant I'm getting the killed most with? What is the relation with the topic about 'there is nothing wrong with the AR?'. I don't really get your point? Are you tricking us? no im saying which AR have u been killed by not getting the killed. Getting Killed by which AR have u been getting Killed by the enemy with. How does that prove your point that there is nothing wrong with the AR?
PS: Have you thought about using translate.google.com? |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
227
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 17:49:00 -
[73] - Quote
It's overpowered when it's the only gun 99% of people are using. Why is it overpowered? Ungodly amount of damage compared to everything else, plus as usual, a damage bonus to headshots.
/your argument |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
783
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 17:57:00 -
[74] - Quote
Eno Raef wrote:With 40% extra damage, 30 rounds allows an accurate player to deal 1470 damage. That is plenty damage capability with a medium ranged weapon. The HMG and shotgun being CCP's CQC weapons with very short range, their high damage output may be acceptable to balance the much higher range of ARs. You can't get 40% extra damage even with prof 5 and 5 damage mods (don't forget about the stacking penalty). |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
557
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 18:38:00 -
[75] - Quote
RKKR wrote:Great pasting of numbers in your original post Cordera, but you completely forgot to talk about the gun-mechanics. How much peeps can you kill with a scrambler rifle before it overheats? How much peeps can you kill while spraying your AR? Please give me a better breakdown.
If you're going to talk about a specific weapon being OverPowered or not by ignoring all other weapons (except for the Srambler Rifle) is silly. There is a possibility you're comparing two OP weapons with each other and maybe one weapon is more OP than the other. (I know I have to add this: I'm not saying any weapon is OP or not, just pointing something out)
Please try again.
PS: My grammar is better than yours.
Well what you can kill and what you would normally kill are two completely different things. With the AR at most I have killed 3 ppl before reloading. With the IMP Scrambler I have killed 3 ppl before overheating (yes back to back). Usually in normal use of the AR you will get 1 kill per reload and 1 kill before overheating the scrambler. This is in normal use there are of course variations as noted but by and large this is approximately what happens (because some of the shots dont count due to hit detection as well).
TBH the AR is not OP now nor was it ever OP in chromosome. The TAC AR really wasnt OP but whatever doesnt matter since I use the scrambler. The scrambler is far better than people think it is. With its 88 dmg (when you have prof 4) per shot that means that I do 105 dmg to shields for every hit and 70 dmg to armor on every hit. Needless to say....I rarely see much of a difference in killing armor to killing shields and to top it off its charged shot lets me insta kill everything but heavies and proto suits.
The argument of ARs being OP is just becoming more and more stupid every time I see it. The AR will always be the standard go to weapon. Its the same with every other FPS game out there. The scrambler easily out dmgs the AR extremely quickly and the scrambler has 100% accuracy when ADS (no dispersion or recoil at all on the scrambler rifles) |
Mortal Maximus
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn
29
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 18:39:00 -
[76] - Quote
You know Coredera, i like what your saying, but the problem is not the gun, that is not anyone's problem, the real problem is the amount of people that equip the same dam guns, and you know what i wont be to long before battles are with everyone cloned with an assualt dropsuit and AR for battle. What i'm saying is if a battle of of 32 players 12 to 14 hold an assualt rifle people that want to spec into to something different would either be forced to use and assualt set or if don't want to die all the time use a tank, but with av grenades that my deter them from that option.... But you get what im saying with the amount of ppl using AR weapons, it just won't be long at all before everyone including me is equipped with an Assault Rifle. |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
402
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 18:50:00 -
[77] - Quote
Colonel Killar wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:P14GU3 wrote:People are always going to complain.
My question is, have you use any other weapon?
The people "complaining" are mostly trying to convey the point that the AR is too good at everything in comparison to anything else. Only a few weapons hit at a longer range, and thanks to the TAR nerf, none of them are very good CQC. While the AR pretty much covers everything else. And the problem with the AR being versatile is?? This is my point....the ARs' role and effectiveness in Dust is no different than any other fps out there. I'm not sure what guys are expecting. just a slight damage nerf and it will be balenced with everything else.
ARs don't need a damage nerf,they need less total ammo,and ammo in the clip.This would make squads of AR guys move more tactically and would force them to focus fire on a single target instead of everyone trying to be John Rambo.This would also greatly increase the importance of the Logi/support role.
People keep saying nerf this and buff that when the solution is more simple than that.
|
Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
552
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 18:52:00 -
[78] - Quote
TL;DR
Same for the thread.
Assault Rifles are fine. Maybe give 50 more RPM to the Tactical AR, and 15 more meters of range to the Burst AR. Idk wth to do with the Breach AR. Not happy with the range buff the full-autos got. If you give them range, you gotta increase the spread. But whatever, Assault Rifles are OVERALL fine.
Scrambler Rifles are fine too, don't mess with those. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
131
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 18:56:00 -
[79] - Quote
Mortal Maximus wrote:You know Coredera, i like what your saying, but the problem is not the gun, that is not anyone's problem, the real problem is the amount of people that equip the same dam guns, and you know what i wont be to long before battles are with everyone cloned with an assualt dropsuit and AR for battle. What i'm saying is if a battle of of 32 players 12 to 14 hold an assualt rifle people that want to spec into to something different would either be forced to use and assualt set or if don't want to die all the time use a tank, but with av grenades that my deter them from that option.... But you get what im saying with the amount of ppl using AR weapons, it just won't be long at all before everyone including me is equipped with an Assault Rifle.
What is he actually saying?
|
Mortal Maximus
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn
29
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 19:02:00 -
[80] - Quote
Well, im saying if the battles don't get evened out where anyone could spec into whatever they want and not be killed for the most part by Range Trolls, then battles would soon have nothing but players with AR's |
|
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
133
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 19:07:00 -
[81] - Quote
But what is Coredera trying to say? He's asking which AR kills us the most but for what? I |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
787
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 19:11:00 -
[82] - Quote
Mortal Maximus wrote:Well, im saying if the battles don't get evened out where anyone could spec into whatever they want and not be killed for the most part by Range Trolls, then battles would soon have nothing but players with AR's There are many weapons better and more interesting than the AR. It's just a familiar option that other FPS players can easily recognise. There will always be lots of them used for this reason but no one feels forced to use them (not since the tac was fixed anyway!). |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
15
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 19:13:00 -
[83] - Quote
RKKR wrote:But what is Coredera trying to say? He's asking which AR kills us the most but for what? I
And I see that u still don't understand what trying to say once again. Stadard AR, GEK-38 AR, DUVOLLE AR, GLU-5 TAC AR, AND DUVOLLE TAC AR. Which of those five have u been kill by since playing this game. don't be smart about it just tell me which of those five gun I mention have u been kill by to make this a lot more easier. |
Mortal Maximus
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn
29
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 19:14:00 -
[84] - Quote
Sorry, not only Assualt Rifles, but Snipers Rifles and Mass Drivers, that is not a good thing at all |
Mortal Maximus
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn
29
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 19:17:00 -
[85] - Quote
DUVOLLE AR, GLU-5 TAC AR, AND DUVOLLE TAC AR are the assault rifles i've been killed by the most as far as assualt rifles are concerned and Duvolle AR is what i was killed the most by. |
Cordera Ray
Galactic Warrior Corporation
16
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 19:23:00 -
[86] - Quote
Mortal Maximus wrote:DUVOLLE AR, GLU-5 TAC AR, AND DUVOLLE TAC AR are the assault rifles i've been killed by the most as far as assualt rifles are concerned and Duvolle AR is what i was killed the most by.
Ok that all I need it was that.
|
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
135
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 19:25:00 -
[87] - Quote
Cordera Ray wrote:RKKR wrote:But what is Coredera trying to say? He's asking which AR kills us the most but for what? I And I see that u still don't understand what trying to say once again. Stadard AR, GEK-38 AR, DUVOLLE AR, GLU-5 TAC AR, AND DUVOLLE TAC AR. Which of those five have u been kill by since playing this game. don't be smart about it just tell me which of those five gun I mention have u been kill by to make this a lot more easier.
After you tell me how that is going to help you? |
Knightshade Belladonna
G.R.A.V.E
386
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 19:31:00 -
[88] - Quote
AR is not OP , It is the most widely used gun for being easily accessable, versatile , and effective. It is out ranged by many weapons , it has zero splash dmg , it can kick all over the place and can be a ***** to use in CQC. It is a fairly simple gun though, and does not require too much tactics to use.. that does not constitute as OPness. It is great in many situations , but there are plenty of situations where something else would perform better. People need to stop crying that they die by the most commonly used gun in almost all shooters.
And to answer OP , I die the most to snipers and flaylocks , but mostly snipers.. they love to zero in on my glowing rays of life. I'm an assault rifle logi bro 1st, AV second , Sniper 3rd.
And for the most common death by a particular assault rifle. I would have to say duvolle AR |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
66
|
Posted - 2013.07.01 21:10:00 -
[89] - Quote
Th3rdSun wrote:Colonel Killar wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:P14GU3 wrote:People are always going to complain.
My question is, have you use any other weapon?
The people "complaining" are mostly trying to convey the point that the AR is too good at everything in comparison to anything else. Only a few weapons hit at a longer range, and thanks to the TAR nerf, none of them are very good CQC. While the AR pretty much covers everything else. And the problem with the AR being versatile is?? This is my point....the ARs' role and effectiveness in Dust is no different than any other fps out there. I'm not sure what guys are expecting. just a slight damage nerf and it will be balenced with everything else. ARs don't need a damage nerf,they need less total ammo,and ammo in the clip.This would make squads of AR guys move more tactically and would force them to focus fire on a single target instead of everyone trying to be John Rambo.This would also greatly increase the importance of the Logi/support role. People keep saying nerf this and buff that when the solution is more simple than that. that works too I remember reading a thread earlier that seemed to do a better job at balancing than I do
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 [3] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |