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Aeon Amadi
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:29:00 -
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Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2816
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:31:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
Intended - CCP hates you. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
463
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:31:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
I had an alt and by the time I was out I had a full STD loadout and an advanced weapon. I do think 10k WP is low though. |
Schalac 17
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
273
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:36:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
I had an alt and by the time I was out I had a full STD loadout and an advanced weapon. I do think 10k WP is low though. So you took all your knowledge from playing for a year and placed every SP where you needed it only because you already knew what all the skills do and where to put them to maximize your character coming out of academy.. and you expect every new player to do exactly the same...Just stop talking Kane.
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
463
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:38:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
I had an alt and by the time I was out I had a full STD loadout and an advanced weapon. I do think 10k WP is low though. So you took all your knowledge from playing for a year and placed every SP where you needed it only because you already knew what all the skills do and where to put them to maximize your character coming out of academy.. and you expect every new player to do exactly the same...Just stop talking Kane. No but I expect anybody that's played an MMO to know to not put skill points into everything only things that benefit your playstyle. I think you need to stop talking. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2816
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:38:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
I had an alt and by the time I was out I had a full STD loadout and an advanced weapon. I do think 10k WP is low though. So you took all your knowledge from playing for a year and placed every SP where you needed it only because you already knew what all the skills do and where to put them to maximize your character coming out of academy.. and you expect every new player to do exactly the same...Just stop talking Kane. Are you saying it takes a brain to figure this out? It's RPG set up - it doesn't require a genius. Always upgrade weapons first. |
Avallo Kantor
DUST University Ivy League
116
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:39:00 -
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I don't even have 2 M SP yet, (almost there!), and I started the game in a very similar situation to you.
I'm not even that good at FPS games in general, but I was able to get to the 10k WP limit around the 600k sp mark, and then had to go against all sorts of far more advanced fittings. My only saving grace was that I was able to use those SP to get into a standard Amarr DS, with a standard SR.
The next 400k SP were... brutal... to work through, and I spent alot of time just waiting for SP to accrue passively (it didn't hurt that I work most of my time), after that I played, and died alot. Eventually I was able to do somewhat decently, and now as I near the 2 M SP mark, I can wear a standard Assault suit (or a Advanced regular suit), advanced weapon mods, and a proto SR.
I generally still use Standard gear (in the assault suit) though, because I've become good enough to get good kills with just that, and it's dirt cheap to replace. |
Schalac 17
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
273
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:41:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
I had an alt and by the time I was out I had a full STD loadout and an advanced weapon. I do think 10k WP is low though. So you took all your knowledge from playing for a year and placed every SP where you needed it only because you already knew what all the skills do and where to put them to maximize your character coming out of academy.. and you expect every new player to do exactly the same...Just stop talking Kane. No but I expect anybody that's played an MMO with a skill tree to know to not put skill points into everything only things that benefit your playstyle. I think you need to stop talking. So with 500k SP you can try out everything there is and find your playstyle right off the bat....Tell me, how many different things have you tried before you got a respec and put millions of SP into one thing?
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Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
463
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:42:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
I had an alt and by the time I was out I had a full STD loadout and an advanced weapon. I do think 10k WP is low though. So you took all your knowledge from playing for a year and placed every SP where you needed it only because you already knew what all the skills do and where to put them to maximize your character coming out of academy.. and you expect every new player to do exactly the same...Just stop talking Kane. No but I expect anybody that's played an MMO with a skill tree to know to not put skill points into everything only things that benefit your playstyle. I think you need to stop talking. So with 500k SP you can try out everything there is and find your playstyle right off the bat....Tell me, how many different things have you tried before you got a respec and put millions of SP into one thing? I have alts. My main has always been AV/Assault. When I want to try something I make an alt and see how I like it before investing. |
Schalac 17
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
273
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:45:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote: I have alts. My main has always been AV/Assault. When I want to try something I make an alt and see how I like it before investing.
There we go, so your advice to new players is make 100s of alts......
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Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1130
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:46:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
I had an alt and by the time I was out I had a full STD loadout and an advanced weapon. I do think 10k WP is low though. So you took all your knowledge from playing for a year and placed every SP where you needed it only because you already knew what all the skills do and where to put them to maximize your character coming out of academy.. and you expect every new player to do exactly the same...Just stop talking Kane. Are you saying it takes a brain to figure this out? It's RPG set up - it doesn't require a genius. Always upgrade weapons first. Haha, thats figuring out two whole branches on a skill tree, how did CCP ever think a video game player could do that? /Sarcasm |
Swell Shot
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:47:00 -
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Wow i just graduated from the academy and now i have i alot of clones to look forward to loosing |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
465
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:48:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote: I have alts. My main has always been AV/Assault. When I want to try something I make an alt and see how I like it before investing.
There we go, so your advice to new players is make 100s of alts...... I have 4 also every suit, weapon, and skill has a description. I suggest reading them.
I will say this though, CCP should put in a good tutorial instead of the shitty one we have now. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
465
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:49:00 -
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Swell Shot wrote:Wow i just graduated from the academy and now i have alot of clones to look forward to loosing Don't worry everyone dies a lot at first. What really matters is making a profit. Don't use what you can't afford to lose. |
Schalac 17
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
273
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Posted - 2013.06.28 03:57:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote: I have alts. My main has always been AV/Assault. When I want to try something I make an alt and see how I like it before investing.
There we go, so your advice to new players is make 100s of alts...... I have 4 also every suit, weapon, and skill has a description. I suggest reading them. I will say this though, CCP should put in a good tutorial instead of the sh itty one we have now. Because the descriptions are so good. I like how they tell you the max optimal/effective range on the weapons. I also like how dispersion is so clearly defined on things like the shot gun, or the HMG....
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CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
231
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Posted - 2013.06.28 04:01:00 -
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I'm thinking that there needs to be like 5 tiers of the academy.
<1 mil SP 1-2 2-3 3-4 4-5 5< |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
465
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Posted - 2013.06.28 04:11:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote: I have alts. My main has always been AV/Assault. When I want to try something I make an alt and see how I like it before investing.
There we go, so your advice to new players is make 100s of alts...... I have 4 also every suit, weapon, and skill has a description. I suggest reading them. I will say this though, CCP should put in a good tutorial instead of the sh itty one we have now. Because the descriptions are so good. I like how they tell you the max optimal/effective range on the weapons. I also like how dispersion is so clearly defined on things like the shot gun, or the HMG.... Ranges are getting added on the 2nd and the dispersion is part of the accuracy rating. I do think they should show more info though. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
465
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Posted - 2013.06.28 04:12:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:I'm thinking that there needs to be like 5 tiers of the academy.
<1 mil SP 1-2 2-3 3-4 4-5 5< I think it should take you until at least 25k wp to get out of academy. |
Aeon Amadi
Unkn0wn Killers
1660
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Posted - 2013.06.28 04:14:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:I'm thinking that there needs to be like 5 tiers of the academy.
<1 mil SP 1-2 2-3 3-4 4-5 5< I think it should take you until at least 25k wp to get out of academy.
25k isnt even a weeks worth of play. Alt hasnt even hit the weekly cap and shes at 10,000. Id say closer to 100,000 since that seems to be our benchmark for recruitment rewards but im being optimistic. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
465
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Posted - 2013.06.28 04:15:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:I'm thinking that there needs to be like 5 tiers of the academy.
<1 mil SP 1-2 2-3 3-4 4-5 5< I think it should take you until at least 25k wp to get out of academy. 25k isnt even a weeks worth of play. Alt hasnt even hit the weekly cap and shes at 10,000. Id say closer to 100,000 since that seems to be our benchmark for recruitment rewards but im being optimistic. Well I was saying what it should be at the very least but I think it should be ~50k. |
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DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
472
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Posted - 2013.06.28 04:18:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
I had an alt and by the time I was out I had a full STD loadout and an advanced weapon. I do think 10k WP is low though. So you took all your knowledge from playing for a year and placed every SP where you needed it only because you already knew what all the skills do and where to put them to maximize your character coming out of academy.. and you expect every new player to do exactly the same...Just stop talking Kane. Are you saying it takes a brain to figure this out? It's RPG set up - it doesn't require a genius. Always upgrade weapons first.
I disagree with upgrading weapons first. Level up Shield and Armor upgrades to a level 3 at least. Survivability > Damage Output in the beginning stages. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2816
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Posted - 2013.06.28 04:21:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
I had an alt and by the time I was out I had a full STD loadout and an advanced weapon. I do think 10k WP is low though. So you took all your knowledge from playing for a year and placed every SP where you needed it only because you already knew what all the skills do and where to put them to maximize your character coming out of academy.. and you expect every new player to do exactly the same...Just stop talking Kane. Are you saying it takes a brain to figure this out? It's RPG set up - it doesn't require a genius. Always upgrade weapons first. I disagree with upgrading weapons first. Level up Shield and Armor upgrades to a level 3 at least. Survivability > Damage Output in the beginning stages. You can survive all you like - but without the ability to move a line you'll find yourself nothing but a solo player. You'd have to join a squad to make up for your lack of DPS.
Not that I don't agree - just for nubs going DPS would offer them more enjoyment and over-all SP/ISK increase. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
84
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Posted - 2013.06.28 06:34:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote: I have alts. My main has always been AV/Assault. When I want to try something I make an alt and see how I like it before investing.
There we go, so your advice to new players is make 100s of alts...... I have 4 also every suit, weapon, and skill has a description. I suggest reading them. I will say this though, CCP should put in a good tutorial instead of the sh itty one we have now.
WTF? You're in Dust University? Not sure if attitude is srs? |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
131
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Posted - 2013.06.28 06:52:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Not even 600,000 sp (default is 500,000 for those who dont know) and just barely over 10,000 WP and my alt character no longer has access to the academy battles.
Query:
Soooo is this a glitch or is this the standard? Poor baby hasnt even gotten into a full suit of Standard gear and shes being eaten alive by Protos, LLAVs and Armor HAVs.
I had an alt and by the time I was out I had a full STD loadout and an advanced weapon. I do think 10k WP is low though. So you took all your knowledge from playing for a year and placed every SP where you needed it only because you already knew what all the skills do and where to put them to maximize your character coming out of academy.. and you expect every new player to do exactly the same...Just stop talking Kane. Are you saying it takes a brain to figure this out? It's RPG set up - it doesn't require a genius. Always upgrade weapons first. I disagree with upgrading weapons first. Level up Shield and Armor upgrades to a level 3 at least. Survivability > Damage Output in the beginning stages.
I am only running at 2.3 SP on my main logi. I have more SP i have just not spent it. Nearly all of it in weapons the rest to get into a logi suit. If i could not kill people like i do i would have left this game long ago. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
473
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Posted - 2013.06.28 08:15:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote: I have alts. My main has always been AV/Assault. When I want to try something I make an alt and see how I like it before investing.
There we go, so your advice to new players is make 100s of alts...... I have 4 also every suit, weapon, and skill has a description. I suggest reading them. I will say this though, CCP should put in a good tutorial instead of the sh itty one we have now. WTF? You're in Dust University? Not sure if attitude is srs? I've been playing since the E3 Build. I joined d uni because I was in betamax and no one would allow me to join their corps because I was in betamax. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2823
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Posted - 2013.06.28 08:21:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Kane Fyea wrote: I have alts. My main has always been AV/Assault. When I want to try something I make an alt and see how I like it before investing.
There we go, so your advice to new players is make 100s of alts...... I have 4 also every suit, weapon, and skill has a description. I suggest reading them. I will say this though, CCP should put in a good tutorial instead of the sh itty one we have now. WTF? You're in Dust University? Not sure if attitude is srs? I've been playing since the E3 Build. I joined d uni because I was in betamax and no one would allow me to join their corps because I was in betamax.
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CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2013.06.28 18:27:00 -
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I really don't think it's okay throwing players in to the fire that is full teams in proto gear all communicating with eachother when a guy only has a std suit and rifle. It needs to be graduated so players have t oopportunity to have at least adv suit and weapon before this happens. |
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