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FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:12:00 - [1] - Quote Amarr Commando Bonus: +2% to efficacy of shield and armor modules per level. When the std suit has no module slots. Another useless bonus for the Amarr. Source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/the-commando-uprising-1.2-brings-new-dropsuit-role/ -XOXO
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 211	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:14:00 - [2] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Amarr Commando Bonus: +2% to efficacy of shield and armor modules per level. When the std suit has no module slots. Another useless bonus for the Amarr. Source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/the-commando-uprising-1.2-brings-new-dropsuit-role/ -XOXO Encourages SP investment into higher levels.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 341	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:17:00 - [3] - Quote those bonuses are actually amazing, maybe not on that suit, but wtf? they get a 5% bonus to reload of all light and side arm weapons, caldari assault gets 2% bonus to only hybrid. they get a 2% bonus to shield and armor, while caldari gets shield regen bonus? I really am at a loss for words when it comes to the suit bonuses.
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:18:00 - [4] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Amarr Commando Bonus: +2% to efficacy of shield and armor modules per level. When the std suit has no module slots. Another useless bonus for the Amarr. Source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/the-commando-uprising-1.2-brings-new-dropsuit-role/ -XOXO Encourages SP investment into higher levels. More like SP super grind. The ADV suit has barely 1 module slot. It's useless. -XOXO
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1199	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:19:00 - [5] - Quote Pretty good suit bonuses, especially that reload speed. The shield / armor module bonus lends itself to being an Amarrian suit, sporting high amounts of EHP when compared to the other races.
martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 235	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:21:00 - [6] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Amarr Commando Bonus: +2% to efficacy of shield and armor modules per level. When the std suit has no module slots. Another useless bonus for the Amarr. Source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/the-commando-uprising-1.2-brings-new-dropsuit-role/ -XOXO Encourages SP investment into other dropsuit classes. fixed that.
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 211	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:22:00 - [7] - Quote 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Peace, Godin
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:23:00 - [8] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Pretty good suit bonuses, especially that reload speed. The shield / armor module bonus lends itself to being an Amarrian suit, sporting high amounts of EHP when compared to the other races. How can it have high amounts of HP when it doesn't have enough module slots. You're delusional. -XOXO
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 341	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:26:00 - [9] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: [b HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA [/b] Peace, Godin see godin this is the future of the pilot suit if you didn't believe me before. honestly my problem with the suit bonuses isn't really with what they do but how little they change the actual roles...and how unfocused the bonuses are towards pushing them towards a role.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 559	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:26:00 - [10] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Pretty good suit bonuses, especially that reload speed. The shield / armor module bonus lends itself to being an Amarrian suit, sporting high amounts of EHP when compared to the other races. How can it have high amounts of HP when it doesn't have enough module slots. You're delusional. -XOXO You can easily get it to about 1000 HP.
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:28:00 - [11] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Pretty good suit bonuses, especially that reload speed. The shield / armor module bonus lends itself to being an Amarrian suit, sporting high amounts of EHP when compared to the other races. How can it have high amounts of HP when it doesn't have enough module slots. You're delusional. -XOXO You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure if serious. -XOXO
Terra Thesis HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 266	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:29:00 - [12] - Quote cool! it's both overpowered AAND underpowered! that means we get to complain twice as much, right?
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 1121	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:29:00 - [13] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Amarr Commando Bonus: +2% to efficacy of shield and armor modules per level. When the std suit has no module slots. Another useless bonus for the Amarr. Source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/the-commando-uprising-1.2-brings-new-dropsuit-role/ -XOXO Encourages SP investment into higher levels. More like SP super grind. The ADV suit has barely 1 module slot. It's useless. -XOXO How do you barely have 1 slot? That make no sense. Troll logic thats how!
Zero Harpuia WarRavens League of Infamy 535	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:30:00 - [14] - Quote ...why does it have an Equipment slot? WHY does it have an EQUIPMENT SLOT? WHY?
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 376	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:30:00 - [15] - Quote It looks sweet. cant wait to rock two geks.
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 211	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:32:00 - [16] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: [b HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA [/b] Peace, Godin see godin this is the future of the pilot suit if you didn't believe me before. honestly my problem with the suit bonuses isn't really with what they do but how little they change the actual roles...and how unfocused the bonuses are towards pushing them towards a role. I should look at a caldari assault suit, and think about how that suit will likely fight different from a gallente suit I'm serious when I said that I'd quit if they **** up the pilot suit. And I'm positive several other pilots would follow me. We've been waiting since Chromosome's patch notes for it to be on Codex levels of good (other than LAV's sucking ass and missiles being OP)
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 341	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:35:00 - [17] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: calisk galern wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: [b HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA [/b] Peace, Godin see godin this is the future of the pilot suit if you didn't believe me before. honestly my problem with the suit bonuses isn't really with what they do but how little they change the actual roles...and how unfocused the bonuses are towards pushing them towards a role. I should look at a caldari assault suit, and think about how that suit will likely fight different from a gallente suit I'm serious when I said that I'd quit if they **** up the pilot suit. And I'm positive several other pilots would follow me. We've been waiting since Chromosome's patch notes for it to be on Codex levels of good (other than LAV's sucking ass and missiles being OP) may as well start packing then because you must be joking with yourself if you think they are going be anything more then this.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 236	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:36:00 - [18] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Pretty good suit bonuses, especially that reload speed. The shield / armor module bonus lends itself to being an Amarrian suit, sporting high amounts of EHP when compared to the other races. How can it have high amounts of HP when it doesn't have enough module slots. You're delusional. -XOXO You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Could you please give me the numbers including the skill levels required?
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2418	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:38:00 - [19] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Pretty good suit bonuses, especially that reload speed. The shield / armor module bonus lends itself to being an Amarrian suit, sporting high amounts of EHP when compared to the other races. oh really? Why didn't the Sentinel suit get those then?
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 559	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:38:00 - [20] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: ...why does it have an Equipment slot? WHY does it have an EQUIPMENT SLOT? WHY? Heavy squad + repair tool & injector...? If the injectors work...this is lethal. This would mean you could have a team of 4 players that could contain: Repair support Revival support Nanohives Swarm launchers (x2) Mass driver (x1) Multipler AR flavors (x3) And Sniper/Shotgunners (x2) A commando can partially fulfill multiple roles. They won't be very valuable as a solo class, but could be extremely deadly in packs.
Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 237	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:40:00 - [21] - Quote Just did a quick calculation and if everything is right it should have a maximum ehp of about 933. Take out the complex armor plate for the feroscale though and it should be around 865. I actually think it's pretty nice for a hybrid AV build.
Severance Pay Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 492	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:41:00 - [22] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Pretty good suit bonuses, especially that reload speed. The shield / armor module bonus lends itself to being an Amarrian suit, sporting high amounts of EHP when compared to the other races. How can it have high amounts of HP when it doesn't have enough module slots. You're delusional. -XOXO Leme do the math for ya. Base stata are 300/300 Complex armor plate is 118 armor, level 5 armor give 15% bonus level comando give 10% bonus. 118 + 25% = 147 Complex shield is 66, level 5 shield gives 15% level 5 commando is another 10% so 66 + 25% = 84 So 468/447... Sounds pretty buff also plasma cannon in caldari is 2.4 sec reload becausw 10% + 15% reload speed bonus but commando gives another 5% so reload on plasma cannon could be even 2 seconds. That is beast!
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 512	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:41:00 - [23] - Quote Should be more like 5-10% per level given you can only realistically have 1 of each module.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 512	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:43:00 - [24] - Quote Severance Pay wrote: Leme do the math for ya. Base stata are 300/300 Complex armor plate is 118 armor, level 5 armor give 15% bonus level comando give 10% bonus. 118 + 25% = 147 Complex shield is 66, level 5 shield gives 15% level 5 commando is another 10% so 66 + 25% = 84 So 468/447... Sounds pretty buff also plasma cannon in caldari is 2.4 sec reload becausw 10% + 15% reload speed bonus but commando gives another 5% so reload on plasma cannon could be even 2 seconds. That is beast! Armor Plating and Shield Extension are 2% per level. Putting you at 20% total bonus. Not a big change, but worth mentioning.
Aisha Ctarl The Generals EoN. 358	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:44:00 - [25] - Quote So does anyone have a picture of the commando suit....I still have no idea what they even look like.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 559	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:44:00 - [26] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Pretty good suit bonuses, especially that reload speed. The shield / armor module bonus lends itself to being an Amarrian suit, sporting high amounts of EHP when compared to the other races. How can it have high amounts of HP when it doesn't have enough module slots. You're delusional. -XOXO You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Could you please give me the numbers including the skill levels required? Not at my game so don't remember skills/stats for sure but. Protosuit: 250 HP shield & 250 HP armor + lvl 5 shield/armor skills = +25% for both = 625 base HP 2 complex shields (66HP x 2) + 25% bonus from skills + 10% bonus from role bonus = 181 Shield HP from modules 1 complex plate (112 HP?) + 25% from skills + 10% from role bonus = 154 Armor HP bonus from modules Not sure if I got that all right, but that is 960 HP, and there may be one other skill that's 1% armor/shield HP per level, but not sure, which would put you right at about 1000 I think if there is. Like other people are saying, for the reload bonus, that is as close as you can get to a damage bonus without it being a damage bonus, rapid reload on a lot of weapons will mean lots of damage.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1796	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:51:00 - [27] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Amarr Commando Bonus: +2% to efficacy of shield and armor modules per level. When the std suit has no module slots. Another useless bonus for the Amarr. Source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/the-commando-uprising-1.2-brings-new-dropsuit-role/ -XOXO Encourages SP investment into higher levels. More like SP super grind. The ADV suit has barely 1 module slot. It's useless. -XOXO If you want to see SP supergrind before something is effective, look at plasma cannons. Not only do you need reload speed level 5, but you also need a bunch of other skills to reduce the (very) high CPU usage.
Sete Clifton PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 237	Posted - 2013.06.27 18:57:00 - [28] - Quote Just to clear up some confusion and to be precise, here's the actual eHP breakdown: Base Shields = 250 x 1.25 = 312.5 Base Armor = 250 x 1.25 = 312.5 Two Complex Shield Extenders = 66 x 2 x 1.20 = 158.4 One Complex Armor Plate = 115 x 1.20 = 138 Total Shields = 470.9 Total Armor = 450.5 Total eHP = 921.4
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 19	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:22:00 - [29] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 513	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:24:00 - [30] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: So does anyone have a picture of the commando suit....I still have no idea what they even look like. Look at the e3 video, YouTube 'fight your own war'. It's a dark red Amarr heavy suit.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 212	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:28:00 - [31] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Amarr Commando Bonus: +2% to efficacy of shield and armor modules per level. When the std suit has no module slots. Another useless bonus for the Amarr. Source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/the-commando-uprising-1.2-brings-new-dropsuit-role/ -XOXO Encourages SP investment into higher levels. More like SP super grind. The ADV suit has barely 1 module slot. It's useless. -XOXO Too bad shrug
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2895	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:30:00 - [32] - Quote [quote=Godin Thekiller]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA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Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 562	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:31:00 - [33] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade. CPU will be tight. Sorry you don't get an easy button and free respec to get an easy fit of the month again
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 213	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:34:00 - [34] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: [quote=Godin Thekiller]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Peace, Godin You failed there Taste.
oso tiburon The Generals EoN. 34	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:37:00 - [35] - Quote slow moving target prcatice and a way for me to thin out merc inventory quicker
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2026	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:40:00 - [36] - Quote Quote: he race bonus squeezes the most out of the few module slots available. They didn't squeeze hard enough
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 19	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:42:00 - [37] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade. CPU will be tight. Sorry you don't get an easy button and free respec to get an easy fit of the month again What you talkin bout willis? I am a heavy now, 10.5mil SP into it... and I already have all of those skills maxed. Was just saying that the word "easilyy" doesnt really fit, in fact I would have worded it like this "You can barely get to about 1000 HP with MILLIONS of skill points invested".
Vin Mora Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 15	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:44:00 - [38] - Quote IMO, the slots should be like this: 0-1 High-Low @ Standard 1-2 High-Low @Advanced 2-3 High-Low @Prototype Then you flip that for the Caldari version. For Galentee and Minmatar make it even, starting at 0-0 or 1-1, depending on how much other stuff (grenades or equipment) they are given. The slots are horribly low (in count), but that is because they don't want a heavy from from stacking too much health. My other issue is the speed, it doesn't seem much faster then the regular heavy.
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 214	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:47:00 - [39] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: IMO, the slots should be like this: 0-1 High-Low @ Standard 1-2 High-Low @Advanced 2-3 High-Low @Prototype Then you flip that for the Caldari version. The slots are horribly low (in count), but that is because they don't want a heavy from from stacking too much health. My other issue is the speed, it doesn't seem much faster then the regular heavy. fixed.
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 214	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:48:00 - [40] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade. CPU will be tight. Sorry you don't get an easy button and free respec to get an easy fit of the month again What you talkin bout willis? I am a heavy now, 10.5mil SP into it... and I already have all of those skills maxed. Was just saying that the word "easilyy" doesnt really fit, in fact I would have worded it like this "You can barely get to about 1000 HP with MILLIONS of skill points invested". Now you know how pilots feel when we got our skills nerfed........ Peace, Godin
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 236	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:52:00 - [41] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: A'Real Fury wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Pretty good suit bonuses, especially that reload speed. The shield / armor module bonus lends itself to being an Amarrian suit, sporting high amounts of EHP when compared to the other races. How can it have high amounts of HP when it doesn't have enough module slots. You're delusional. -XOXO You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Could you please give me the numbers including the skill levels required? Not at my game so don't remember skills/stats for sure but. Protosuit: 250 HP shield & 250 HP armor + lvl 5 shield/armor skills = +25% for both = 625 base HP 2 complex shields (66HP x 2) + 25% bonus from skills + 10% bonus from role bonus = 181 Shield HP from modules 1 complex plate (112 HP?) + 25% from skills + 10% from role bonus = 154 Armor HP bonus from modules Not sure if I got that all right, but that is 960 HP, and there may be one other skill that's 1% armor/shield HP per level, but not sure, which would put you right at about 1000 I think if there is. Like other people are saying, for the reload bonus, that is as close as you can get to a damage bonus without it being a damage bonus, rapid reload on a lot of weapons will mean lots of damage. Thanks for the reply. I have been focused on shields so I only have basic Armor level 5. Could be interesting seeing these suits running in packs.
Vin Mora Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 15	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:54:00 - [42] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Vin Mora wrote: IMO, the slots should be like this: 0-1 High-Low @ Standard 1-2 High-Low @Advanced 2-3 High-Low @Prototype Then you flip that for the Caldari version. The slots are horribly low (in count), but that is because they don't want a heavy from from stacking too much health. My other issue is the speed, it doesn't seem much faster then the regular heavy. fixed. How does removing an entire line about two racial suits 'fix' anything?
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 563	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:04:00 - [43] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade. CPU will be tight. Sorry you don't get an easy button and free respec to get an easy fit of the month again What you talkin bout willis? I am a heavy now, 10.5mil SP into it... and I already have all of those skills maxed. Was just saying that the word "easilyy" doesnt really fit, in fact I would have worded it like this "You can barely get to about 1000 HP with MILLIONS of skill points invested". I don't understand what you are complaining about? You think this suit should require less SP? You could make the same argument about all suits...but maybe assault. The assault is the easiest entry level class for SP investment. You want a suit class that could out DPS/HP the assault for the same amount of SP? All you will have to do is train the commando spec now and you are set.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 563	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:08:00 - [44] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: IMO, the slots should be like this: 0-1 High-Low @ Standard 1-2 High-Low @Advanced 2-3 High-Low @Prototype Then you flip that for the Caldari version. For Galentee and Minmatar make it even, starting at 0-0 or 1-1, depending on how much other stuff (grenades or equipment) they are given. The slots are horribly low (in count), but that is because they don't want a heavy from from stacking too much health. My other issue is the speed, it doesn't seem much faster then the regular heavy. If anything I think this would be reverses. Minmatar and Gallente would start out with lower base HP, minmatar gets more speed, and a little better shield regen. Gallente would get the flexibility of more slots. Caldari would get the best shield regen. Wouldn't be suprised to see one class get bonuses that make them better at AV, then also maybe one that gets a clip size buff or something.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 144	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:10:00 - [45] - Quote This thread has actually made me excited about the reskin and tweek of older content in order to hold us off until they have real racial variants. Touche to the people who do the math so I don't have to. Excel 514
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 314	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:15:00 - [46] - Quote Damn Plasma Cannon is gonna be OP soon in the proper hands...
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 563	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:16:00 - [47] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Damn Plasma Cannon is gonna be OP soon in the proper hands... Plasma cannon + swarm launcher
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2027	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:20:00 - [48] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Damn Plasma Cannon is gonna be OP soon in the proper hands... Said no one ever
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 144	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:26:00 - [49] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Damn Plasma Cannon is gonna be OP soon in the proper hands... It's time the Gallente weapon manufactures had their day again. Our TAC assault rifles were nerfed due to their superior engineering, now we can show off our technological superiority again.
Knightshade Belladonna G.R.A.V.E 378	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:29:00 - [50] - Quote any guess at which suit will be the last to ever try for me? looks like **** , unless you proto it
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 19	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:32:00 - [51] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade. CPU will be tight. Sorry you don't get an easy button and free respec to get an easy fit of the month again What you talkin bout willis? I am a heavy now, 10.5mil SP into it... and I already have all of those skills maxed. Was just saying that the word "easilyy" doesnt really fit, in fact I would have worded it like this "You can barely get to about 1000 HP with MILLIONS of skill points invested". I don't understand what you are complaining about? You think this suit should require less SP? You could make the same argument about all suits...but maybe assault. The assault is the easiest entry level class for SP investment. You want a suit class that could out DPS/HP the assault for the same amount of SP? All you will have to do is train the commando spec now and you are set. Blah... my first post was sarcastic. Thats it... all I said was it is not "easy" to get this Commando suit to 1000ehp. Then you said something about not getting an easy button. I am not complaining about anything lol... I am a pure heavy, I am looking forward to this suit, that is all.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2027	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:37:00 - [52] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: e assault for the same amount of SP? All you will have to do is train the commando spec now and you are set. Blah... my first post was sarcastic. Thats it... all I said was it is not "easy" to get this Commando suit to 1000ehp. Then you said something about not getting an easy button. I am not complaining about anything lol... I am a pure heavy, I am looking forward to this suit, that is all.[/quote] Me thinks he thought you were a logi and didn't want to apologize
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 218	Posted - 2013.06.27 22:07:00 - [53] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Vin Mora wrote: IMO, the slots should be like this: 0-1 High-Low @ Standard 1-2 High-Low @Advanced 2-3 High-Low @Prototype Then you flip that for the Caldari version. The slots are horribly low (in count), but that is because they don't want a heavy from from stacking too much health. My other issue is the speed, it doesn't seem much faster then the regular heavy. fixed. How does removing an entire line about two racial suits 'fix' anything? Because those slots were god aweful
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 124	Posted - 2013.06.30 21:56:00 - [54] - Quote This needs to be brought back to the forefront of discussion until CCP tells us what the heck they were thinking. "Hey guys, let's make a suit that sacrifices module slots and then give it a bonus for module efficiency." Seriously, this makes no sense whatsoever. This has to change.
Nin Ker Forsaken Immortals 9	Posted - 2013.06.30 21:59:00 - [55] - Quote It's basically a glass cannon.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 124	Posted - 2013.06.30 22:16:00 - [56] - Quote What makes even less sense about the bonus is I thought the bonuses were supposed to give you a reason to level up even if you plan on using the lower end suits. This racial bonus should of been the bonus for Sentinel.
C Saunders Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 353	Posted - 2013.06.30 22:27:00 - [57] - Quote Running two proto weapons and a load of other kittens will make this suit VERY expensive. It'll cost them so much to run full proto that when they die they'll think their as priviliged as tankers and need the weapon that killed them nerfed into the ground. Anyway, near 1000 hp, whats that? One remote explosive you say?

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