DUST Search - Amarr commando suit bonus, lol

Beren Hurin wrote:

ER-Bullitt wrote:

Beren Hurin wrote:

ER-Bullitt wrote:

Beren Hurin wrote:

You can easily get it to about 1000 HP.

Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Roll

Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade.

CPU will be tight.

Sorry you don't get an easy button and free respec to get an easy fit of the month again Ugh

What you talkin bout willis? I am a heavy now, 10.5mil SP into it... and I already have all of those skills maxed. Was just saying that the word "easilyy" doesnt really fit, in fact I would have worded it like this

"You can barely get to about 1000 HP with MILLIONS of skill points invested".

I don't understand what you are complaining about? You think this suit should require less SP? You could make the same argument about all suits...but maybe assault.

The assault is the easiest entry level class for SP investment. You want a suit class that could out DPS/HP the assault for the same amount of SP? All you will have to do is train the commando spec now and you are set.

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Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 212	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:28:00 - [31] - Quote FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: Amarr Commando Bonus: +2% to efficacy of shield and armor modules per level. When the std suit has no module slots. Another useless bonus for the Amarr. Source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/the-commando-uprising-1.2-brings-new-dropsuit-role/ -XOXO Encourages SP investment into higher levels. More like SP super grind. The ADV suit has barely 1 module slot. It's useless. -XOXO Too bad shrug
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2895	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:30:00 - [32] - Quote [quote=Godin Thekiller]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA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Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 562	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:31:00 - [33] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade. CPU will be tight. Sorry you don't get an easy button and free respec to get an easy fit of the month again
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 213	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:34:00 - [34] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: [quote=Godin Thekiller]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Peace, Godin You failed there Taste.
oso tiburon The Generals EoN. 34	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:37:00 - [35] - Quote slow moving target prcatice and a way for me to thin out merc inventory quicker
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2026	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:40:00 - [36] - Quote Quote: he race bonus squeezes the most out of the few module slots available. They didn't squeeze hard enough
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 19	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:42:00 - [37] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade. CPU will be tight. Sorry you don't get an easy button and free respec to get an easy fit of the month again What you talkin bout willis? I am a heavy now, 10.5mil SP into it... and I already have all of those skills maxed. Was just saying that the word "easilyy" doesnt really fit, in fact I would have worded it like this "You can barely get to about 1000 HP with MILLIONS of skill points invested".
Vin Mora Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 15	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:44:00 - [38] - Quote IMO, the slots should be like this: 0-1 High-Low @ Standard 1-2 High-Low @Advanced 2-3 High-Low @Prototype Then you flip that for the Caldari version. For Galentee and Minmatar make it even, starting at 0-0 or 1-1, depending on how much other stuff (grenades or equipment) they are given. The slots are horribly low (in count), but that is because they don't want a heavy from from stacking too much health. My other issue is the speed, it doesn't seem much faster then the regular heavy.
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 214	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:47:00 - [39] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: IMO, the slots should be like this: 0-1 High-Low @ Standard 1-2 High-Low @Advanced 2-3 High-Low @Prototype Then you flip that for the Caldari version. The slots are horribly low (in count), but that is because they don't want a heavy from from stacking too much health. My other issue is the speed, it doesn't seem much faster then the regular heavy. fixed.
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 214	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:48:00 - [40] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade. CPU will be tight. Sorry you don't get an easy button and free respec to get an easy fit of the month again What you talkin bout willis? I am a heavy now, 10.5mil SP into it... and I already have all of those skills maxed. Was just saying that the word "easilyy" doesnt really fit, in fact I would have worded it like this "You can barely get to about 1000 HP with MILLIONS of skill points invested". Now you know how pilots feel when we got our skills nerfed........ Peace, Godin

A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 236	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:52:00 - [41] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: A'Real Fury wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: FATPrincess - XOXO wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Pretty good suit bonuses, especially that reload speed. The shield / armor module bonus lends itself to being an Amarrian suit, sporting high amounts of EHP when compared to the other races. How can it have high amounts of HP when it doesn't have enough module slots. You're delusional. -XOXO You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Could you please give me the numbers including the skill levels required? Not at my game so don't remember skills/stats for sure but. Protosuit: 250 HP shield & 250 HP armor + lvl 5 shield/armor skills = +25% for both = 625 base HP 2 complex shields (66HP x 2) + 25% bonus from skills + 10% bonus from role bonus = 181 Shield HP from modules 1 complex plate (112 HP?) + 25% from skills + 10% from role bonus = 154 Armor HP bonus from modules Not sure if I got that all right, but that is 960 HP, and there may be one other skill that's 1% armor/shield HP per level, but not sure, which would put you right at about 1000 I think if there is. Like other people are saying, for the reload bonus, that is as close as you can get to a damage bonus without it being a damage bonus, rapid reload on a lot of weapons will mean lots of damage. Thanks for the reply. I have been focused on shields so I only have basic Armor level 5. Could be interesting seeing these suits running in packs.
Vin Mora Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises 15	Posted - 2013.06.27 19:54:00 - [42] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: Vin Mora wrote: IMO, the slots should be like this: 0-1 High-Low @ Standard 1-2 High-Low @Advanced 2-3 High-Low @Prototype Then you flip that for the Caldari version. The slots are horribly low (in count), but that is because they don't want a heavy from from stacking too much health. My other issue is the speed, it doesn't seem much faster then the regular heavy. fixed. How does removing an entire line about two racial suits 'fix' anything?
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 563	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:04:00 - [43] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade. CPU will be tight. Sorry you don't get an easy button and free respec to get an easy fit of the month again What you talkin bout willis? I am a heavy now, 10.5mil SP into it... and I already have all of those skills maxed. Was just saying that the word "easilyy" doesnt really fit, in fact I would have worded it like this "You can barely get to about 1000 HP with MILLIONS of skill points invested". I don't understand what you are complaining about? You think this suit should require less SP? You could make the same argument about all suits...but maybe assault. The assault is the easiest entry level class for SP investment. You want a suit class that could out DPS/HP the assault for the same amount of SP? All you will have to do is train the commando spec now and you are set.
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 563	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:08:00 - [44] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: IMO, the slots should be like this: 0-1 High-Low @ Standard 1-2 High-Low @Advanced 2-3 High-Low @Prototype Then you flip that for the Caldari version. For Galentee and Minmatar make it even, starting at 0-0 or 1-1, depending on how much other stuff (grenades or equipment) they are given. The slots are horribly low (in count), but that is because they don't want a heavy from from stacking too much health. My other issue is the speed, it doesn't seem much faster then the regular heavy. If anything I think this would be reverses. Minmatar and Gallente would start out with lower base HP, minmatar gets more speed, and a little better shield regen. Gallente would get the flexibility of more slots. Caldari would get the best shield regen. Wouldn't be suprised to see one class get bonuses that make them better at AV, then also maybe one that gets a clip size buff or something.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 144	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:10:00 - [45] - Quote This thread has actually made me excited about the reskin and tweek of older content in order to hold us off until they have real racial variants. Touche to the people who do the math so I don't have to. Excel 514
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 314	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:15:00 - [46] - Quote Damn Plasma Cannon is gonna be OP soon in the proper hands...
Beren Hurin OMNI Endeavors 563	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:16:00 - [47] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Damn Plasma Cannon is gonna be OP soon in the proper hands... Plasma cannon + swarm launcher
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2027	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:20:00 - [48] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Damn Plasma Cannon is gonna be OP soon in the proper hands... Said no one ever
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 144	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:26:00 - [49] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Damn Plasma Cannon is gonna be OP soon in the proper hands... It's time the Gallente weapon manufactures had their day again. Our TAC assault rifles were nerfed due to their superior engineering, now we can show off our technological superiority again.
Knightshade Belladonna G.R.A.V.E 378	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:29:00 - [50] - Quote any guess at which suit will be the last to ever try for me? looks like **** , unless you proto it

ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. League of Infamy 19	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:32:00 - [51] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: ER-Bullitt wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: You can easily get it to about 1000 HP. Not sure what your definitiion of "easy" is. But if you mean maxed out proto commando, with lvl 5 in 4 seperate skills, and still not break 1000.. then yes you are correct. Anyone done the math if this thing can hold 3 complex mods (extenders/plates) and 2 proto weapons, with a decent pirce of equipment? Probalby should given the small number of slots and no grenade. CPU will be tight. Sorry you don't get an easy button and free respec to get an easy fit of the month again What you talkin bout willis? I am a heavy now, 10.5mil SP into it... and I already have all of those skills maxed. Was just saying that the word "easilyy" doesnt really fit, in fact I would have worded it like this "You can barely get to about 1000 HP with MILLIONS of skill points invested". I don't understand what you are complaining about? You think this suit should require less SP? You could make the same argument about all suits...but maybe assault. The assault is the easiest entry level class for SP investment. You want a suit class that could out DPS/HP the assault for the same amount of SP? All you will have to do is train the commando spec now and you are set. Blah... my first post was sarcastic. Thats it... all I said was it is not "easy" to get this Commando suit to 1000ehp. Then you said something about not getting an easy button. I am not complaining about anything lol... I am a pure heavy, I am looking forward to this suit, that is all.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2027	Posted - 2013.06.27 20:37:00 - [52] - Quote ER-Bullitt wrote: e assault for the same amount of SP? All you will have to do is train the commando spec now and you are set. Blah... my first post was sarcastic. Thats it... all I said was it is not "easy" to get this Commando suit to 1000ehp. Then you said something about not getting an easy button. I am not complaining about anything lol... I am a pure heavy, I am looking forward to this suit, that is all.[/quote] Me thinks he thought you were a logi and didn't want to apologize
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 218	Posted - 2013.06.27 22:07:00 - [53] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: Vin Mora wrote: IMO, the slots should be like this: 0-1 High-Low @ Standard 1-2 High-Low @Advanced 2-3 High-Low @Prototype Then you flip that for the Caldari version. The slots are horribly low (in count), but that is because they don't want a heavy from from stacking too much health. My other issue is the speed, it doesn't seem much faster then the regular heavy. fixed. How does removing an entire line about two racial suits 'fix' anything? Because those slots were god aweful
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 124	Posted - 2013.06.30 21:56:00 - [54] - Quote This needs to be brought back to the forefront of discussion until CCP tells us what the heck they were thinking. "Hey guys, let's make a suit that sacrifices module slots and then give it a bonus for module efficiency." Seriously, this makes no sense whatsoever. This has to change.
Nin Ker Forsaken Immortals 9	Posted - 2013.06.30 21:59:00 - [55] - Quote It's basically a glass cannon.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 124	Posted - 2013.06.30 22:16:00 - [56] - Quote What makes even less sense about the bonus is I thought the bonuses were supposed to give you a reason to level up even if you plan on using the lower end suits. This racial bonus should of been the bonus for Sentinel.
C Saunders Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 353	Posted - 2013.06.30 22:27:00 - [57] - Quote Running two proto weapons and a load of other kittens will make this suit VERY expensive. It'll cost them so much to run full proto that when they die they'll think their as priviliged as tankers and need the weapon that killed them nerfed into the ground. Anyway, near 1000 hp, whats that? One remote explosive you say?


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