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XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:47:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:argue 1 way or another on this, KB/M support is crucial to this games survival...
and no I don't use KB/M. yes when working properly KB/M is a distinct advantage, even in its broken state it has an advantage, but you wont be seeing support for it removed... Dust, long term, is going to rely on its EvE players, none of which would even know how to hold a controller, much less be any good with it.
the niche this game has atm is that is DOES support KB/M
if you wanna QQ about KB/M u need to work to balance it vs the DS3, not try to remove it cause that just aint gonna happen lolwut? How is kb/m support crucial to a game where a vast majority are DS3 users? I thought you were one of the more sensible players given how long you've been playing but thats a sad reason to defend kb/m support. I for one support kb funcionality for ease of chat control when voice chat is not an option but feel like mouse has no place in a console game unless the kb/m was a requirement so everyone would be on equal footing. Anyone who says DS3 is better than kb/m is just lying to themselves, if and when CCP manages to do a 1:1 copy of mouse movement, the difference would be clear ingame and be a requirement for competetive gaming.
Lol! You seriously think most of the community in Dust is PS3 players? Keep dreaming... |
McFurious
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:47:00 -
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Dumb thread is dumb. Also a repost. This topic has been done to death. KB/M isn't getting removed. It's not gonna help you if it was anyway.
/thread over
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:49:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:TC you should try using a M&K on this game lol its horrible..
It's horrible IF you aren't accustomed to using a KB/M. It takes a lot of time to accustom yourself to using just your thumbs or all your fingers. Most of the top players are KB/M. It's just like FGC(Fighting Game Community) You got pads (controller) vs Stick (Arcade fight sticks) The guys who are used to controller and their thumbs doing most the work use pad. The guys who are used to using most their fingers use fight stick. Only difference is in FGC one doesn't have advantages over the other in anything. Perhaps slightly movement but that's even state of mind. Here in Dust the keyboard can sprint while strafing, controller can't.
I use a M&K all the time as I do alot of PC gaming on FPS games and maybe its because I dont know how to set it up for the PS3 but the movement and delay and overall horribadness of it is lolable to me. But like I said maybe I dont know what setting to use. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:50:00 -
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You know this thread makes me think, a lot of the EVE fanboys are the ones using a keyboard and mouse and have said they would quit if it was removed And that makes me think of all their "great" feedback that has helped put the game in its current state with nerfs across the board due to their cries of OP
Now these things together lead me to ask, in the long term is losing those players a bad thing
Line up to the left single file to start QQing |
XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:54:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:You know this thread makes me think, a lot of the EVE fanboys are the ones using a keyboard and mouse and have said they would quit if it was removed And that makes me think of all their "great" feedback that has helped put the game in its current state with nerfs across the board due to their cries of OP
Now these things together lead me to ask, in the long term is losing those players a bad thing
Line up to the left single file to start QQing
It really is a bad thing because most of Dust is EVE players. I know a lot of us like to think we are mostly PS3 players but it's not the case. Most of the people in this community are Eve/PC players. So if those players quit we will have maybe 1500 players left. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:57:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Delta 749 wrote:You know this thread makes me think, a lot of the EVE fanboys are the ones using a keyboard and mouse and have said they would quit if it was removed And that makes me think of all their "great" feedback that has helped put the game in its current state with nerfs across the board due to their cries of OP
Now these things together lead me to ask, in the long term is losing those players a bad thing
Line up to the left single file to start QQing It really is a bad thing because most of Dust is EVE players. I know a lot of us like to think we are mostly PS3 players but it's not the case. Most of the people in this community are Eve/PC players. So if those players quit we will have maybe 1500 players left.
I know, Im just bored and half assing being provocative You know what I do find funny though, for all of EVE players talk about how New Eden is a harsh place and you need to harden up to survive they sure do whine a lot about this or that or whatever killed them being OP |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.27 21:58:00 -
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Is this a Kitten Empress alt?
Also for the record, keyboard and mouse was mainly lobbied by PC FPSers, not EVE players. Learn your Beta History scrubs. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:06:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Delta 749 wrote:You know this thread makes me think, a lot of the EVE fanboys are the ones using a keyboard and mouse and have said they would quit if it was removed And that makes me think of all their "great" feedback that has helped put the game in its current state with nerfs across the board due to their cries of OP
Now these things together lead me to ask, in the long term is losing those players a bad thing
Line up to the left single file to start QQing It really is a bad thing because most of Dust is EVE players. I know a lot of us like to think we are mostly PS3 players but it's not the case. Most of the people in this community are Eve/PC players. So if those players quit we will have maybe 1500 players left. I know, Im just bored and half assing being provocative You know what I do find funny though, for all of EVE players talk about how New Eden is a harsh place and you need to harden up to survive they sure do whine a lot about this or that or whatever killed them being OP
They only like it harsh when they are on top. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:24:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:But the controller has better strafing ability than the keyboard does OP
Drop ships and LAVs and Tanks are easier to drive with a DS3.
I drive an LAV with keyboard....when you turn it is full turn or no turn. when you accelerate it is peddle to the metal or stop.
I refuse to even try to fly a drop ship with a keyboard and mouse. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:33:00 -
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Honestly.. at this point I don't think i'd mind if they dropped KBM support. It would give me a reason to build a teensy adapter and try out GIMx. tbh.. those controls are probably superior to what we have now anyways.. I just don't want to shell out the 30 bucks to build the adapter. |
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Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.27 22:37:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:
Here in Dust the keyboard can sprint while strafing, controller can't.
no,
Kb/m ---> W + D or A
DS3 ----> Hold stick north + tipping it left or right
Jumping + turning + shooting all at the same time is a Kb/m advantage. But then I been told pro DS3 players have no trouble.
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:05:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:You mouse/KB users have a clear advantage vs us console gamers. You can't aim as fast and precise with an analog stick as with a mouse. With a keyboard is easier to strafe and jump while shooting at the same time with the mouse.
This a CONSOLE game having mouse/KB support is a huge mistake. The majority of the new players are console gamers which get owned 1vs1 because they're using a DS3. The console and PC community will NEVER be able to unified because both controllers are entirely DIFFERENT.
Different in that one is clearly better at shooting things than the other. I'm actually glad your kind got nerfed with Uprising srsly. But I'm afraid your aiming will get fixed to being again PC pro vs console noob.
-XOXO
You should learn2play. Those with Mouse & Keyboard have EXTREME disadvantages (turning on turrets) to name one. Yes, it is more "Precise" in aiming, but it's also "over-sensitive" or "under-sensitive" depending on the mouse; turning in general is either really slow or really fast, i.e., broken.
Get over your noobness and deal with it. Stop making excuses for your deaths when you think it's one thing which it isn't. You just suck. |
Setaceous Prime
Nexus Prima
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:08:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3 wrote:Yo, check this out, it allows you to use kb/m in any PS3 game, it translates kb/m input into controller so it is transparent to the PS3 so it is not detectable. I used to use it for BO2, I could go 40+ kills in a match like it was nothing. Its not nearly as good as true MKB support but you could eventually tune it so it was pretty decent. Thanks for showing and saying how much superior it is over ds3 controller. And for the people going, blah blah 20 bucks, get one blah bLAH.. DO YOU NOT REALIZE WTF WE ARE PLAYING ON? why the hell would we have to be compelled to purchase a kb/m for a system that comes with.. A CONTROLLER , not a dam keyboard like your pc Clearly I have an advantage working in IT. I have access to hundreds of different keyboards and mice for free
Maybe they should remove everyone that works in IT? |
Princeps Marcellus
Expert Intervention Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.06.27 23:16:00 -
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hahahaha
because vehicles, KB/M and the module select wheel work perfectly, right? |
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