My belief is that they should have one last respec when they finished the core stuff that is missing right now. After that no more respecs is ok.

CCP plans to keep releasing new content in the years to come. We have no idea when all this content will be out. We need to start somewhere and right now seems like a good place as any. If you know for a fact you want to skill into something like a Gallente heavy, start saving up. That's what I'm doing.

I don't follow on the concept of respec equals win. You've got skill points, that you've already earned, to allocate where you want. Anyone can do so.

ISK is a lot easier to make then people think. Corps depending on their internal model can make 10's of millions a day based on what areas they hold and how members are paying back in. After transfers to any player become available players could easily turn alt accounts and characters into ISK mules by creating, funneling starter ISK to a main character, and then deleting them in 10 hours cycles.

Why should you have to pay for something you already earned? Paying for Respec's is dumb unless it's purely isk.

Also, Can you name on game in the history of video games that has ever got better core mechanic post release?

It's NEVER happened, not even COD will billions can get it perfect.

Stop living in some fantasy world where this game magically transforms from **** to gold, not going to happen on PS3 maybe on PS4 but even that's a huge stretch.

NONE of those are shooters, you idiot or even relate to what I was talking about.

And sorry SP system thats can't be re-designated isn't a core mechanic its a design feature and one that doesn't even exist in eve to this extent.

You just don't like Veteran players having the opportunity to learn in hindsight and new players to correct initial mistakes before they fully understood the game. Yea no sorry but game needs to stay fresh and one of the easiest ways CCP can do that until they add in more and more content is the opportunity for players to experience that content through LIMITED RESPECING.

Also in your outright dismissal I notice how you haven't yet rebuffed any of what i said with a logical counterpoint. On the other hand CCP has changed core game mechanical features constantly in an effort to "improve" the game and gameplay.

Okay i get wanting to stick to something where there are consequences for decisions. But there are consequences to everything in this game in the form of loss and gain.

I was flirting with the idea of respeccing being driven lore as a method of changing neural implants and thus allowing for retraining. Now perhaps this is a place we can extend consequences further.

If a person were to changes specs with 100% efficiency then that is what the current respeccing would be. What if instead the "nueral implants" that allowed for respeccing were done in clusters so if you chose a cluster of skills (pre-spent SP) it was 100% efficient but perhaps not 100% ideal for the way a player wanted to play that particular suit etc. So the SP was distributed by a premade system.

Now if you wanted the freedom to choose simply make the respec <100% efficient. Perhaps you only get a refund of 80-95% of your SP or perhaps its a sliding scale so the more SP you have the less you are going to get in a respec.


So if you are at 100M SP say instead of 80-95% of your SP you only get 75% SP. Now there is a real consequence to respeccing your character, it follows a rationale lore to drive it(changing neural implants has a loss of efficieny in the transfer of "skils) and it really gives pause to people who simply just want to try new things vs people who would look to use respecs for speccing into FOTM.

I throw down proto healing hives and can rep an entire squad while killing mofos.

Does a logi have to use a rep tool to be effective? I can do this while providing ammo and proto uplinks for the folks not smart enough to stick around my healing hives.

I'm convinced that ANTI-repec people are trolls. People can't be that stupid to not see the need for them to keep the game interesting for people.

I want a respec and i dont give a **** about your opinion.

If a person is using something they bought with THEIR SP (AKA THEIR TIME) , and then it gets nerfed its not LONGER what they bought , thereby like anything else, they should have their money (in this case SP) Reimbursed.
So what if everyone flocks to the most OP weapon? This makes the problem obvious and helps to get a balance.

IF THEY CHANGE SOMETHING, we deserve a respec.

Well said. However I would like to ad that you can function just fine without protogear. Advanced gear is not that far off from protogear and cost considerably less SP to spec into. In most instances, advanced gear is just as good. Especially considering protogear is so expensive.

You are thinking too small. Im not thinking of respecs in terms of changes to a weapon or a suit but entire builds.

From going from a gallent logi Scrambler with equipment.

To playing a minmatar scout nova knifer


Or a shield tanker or a bomber/aircraft (whenever those come out).

Respecs for hte sake of speccing just one weapon or new suit given the limitation of 2 uses a year and the potential loss of SP would be useless but thats the point isn't it. We want to eliminate the needless speccing or respeccing of single weapons or suits so people dont spec FOTM while still giving the wholesale option of switching up an entire build for the sake of creating a fresh new experience into the game world.

Then fight the temptation and DONT DO IT.

See this is the part the really pisses me off, on the one hand you want to create a restriction to limit how others play the game but on the other you want decisions to matter.

Well noone is preventing you from making the decision to NOT RESPEC. That option is entirely available to you. Is it our responsibility to be your caretaker and keep you free of temptation or is it your responsbility to be smart and not fall into it?

Why? You can still use those suits. What about when the commando comes in? Should everyone get a respec because that didn't previously exist?

There's always going to be changes and additions to Dust. I say, be wise, build up and SP buffer/savings and diversify your points. Oh, and no more respecs.