DUST Search - Still no new game modes? are you serious?

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Knight SoIaire wrote:

The devblog today didn't include everything, hopefully we see the return of Skirm 1.0.

I dont get it, how come its taking them so long to implement a gamemode they know works, anyway?

Because it didn't exactly work perfectly, man, which is why it was removed in the first place. It was extremely vulnerable to some pretty lame cheese.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

General Regret wrote:

Help improve the core of the game first like mechanics and so. Plus with only 5k players active more game modes would mean more time waiting - less game time Big smile

Adios!

We only have 2 real modes, OMS should just be included with Ambush, and Domination should be included in Skirmish; the number of objectives does not justify a new mode, its like making 5 point objective its own separate mode.

Our 2 game modes aren't even that great, just TDM which every other shooter has, and some point control mode like every other shooter also has. There is no complex multi-stage game mode like the original Skirmish 1.0; this game fails when it comes to game modes.

Also the playercount argument is bad, players will quit because they're bored of the same 2 modes (and variations), and decrease playercount, and not adding game modes because of playercount decrease will only cause a downward spiral.

So, basically they have to fix every single problem all at the same time for 1.2?

Seems a little unrealistic, man.

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TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2013.06.25 19:32:00 - [1] - Quote people have been playing this beta for almost 2 years and still only one Objective game mode in the game.. Still no large scale combat, still no new game modes.... Stop making marketplace products and start making a better game.
Knight SoIaire Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 894	Posted - 2013.06.25 19:34:00 - [2] - Quote The devblog today didn't include everything, hopefully we see the return of Skirm 1.0. I dont get it, how come its taking them so long to implement a gamemode they know works, anyway?
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1182	Posted - 2013.06.25 19:34:00 - [3] - Quote CCP: "Here's more stuff!" Community: "Not enough"
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 430	Posted - 2013.06.25 19:35:00 - [4] - Quote I'm glad they used 1.2 to fix core skills personally, all the extras can wait. Priorities!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4029	Posted - 2013.06.25 19:38:00 - [5] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: CCP: "Here's more stuff!" Community: "Not enough" I think people are just curious if CCP knows how to make game types. These game modes are getting might dry. At least we'll have a new area to fight the same fights on, that's exciting.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2747	Posted - 2013.06.25 19:39:00 - [6] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: CCP: "Here's more stuff! you didn't ask for or want" Community: "Really? smh." Only thing I saw that would be them going down the right road was ISK tranafer - which is important but would of seen real use back when people actually CARED about PC. And improvements on armor plates - which we all know will still probably suck. Anyways fixed your comment for you ;)
Taurion Bruni Nightingale Logistics Pty Ltd 73	Posted - 2013.06.25 19:48:00 - [7] - Quote CCP is hard at work to fix the millions of things that others have asked for, they are not super programmers, for a game to work right, you need time.
Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 76	Posted - 2013.06.25 19:49:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: CCP: "Here's more stuff!" Community: "Not enough" I think people are just curious if CCP knows how to make game types. Yep, that's the short of it. There's also the fact that the current game modes are not at all conducive to the integration of the infantry game and the vehicular game. They're quite unfocused and lacking in direction. In a gameplay sense they're lacking. In a thematic sense they're barmy, especially for PC.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 754	Posted - 2013.06.25 19:54:00 - [9] - Quote lol 2 years. Closed beta started March 2012. It's June 2013.
Draco Dustflier DUST University Ivy League 140	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:01:00 - [10] - Quote What i'm wondering is how they thought they could pull off something as complicated as what they were promising with dust if they can't even make a game mode.

Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 76	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:05:00 - [11] - Quote Draco Dustflier wrote: What i'm wondering is how they thought they could pull off something as complicated as what they were promising with dust if they can't even make a game mode. For the longest time I did actually believe Skirmish in it's current state was a slapdash placeholder mode for testing how the different elements of Dust interacted with each other.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 114	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:35:00 - [12] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: people have been playing this beta for almost 2 years and still only one Objective game mode in the game.. Still no large scale combat, still no new game modes.... Stop making marketplace products and start making a better game. have you tried crying about it? i hear that works.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 114	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:37:00 - [13] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: people have been playing this beta for almost 2 years and still only one Objective game mode in the game.. Still no large scale combat, still no new game modes.... Stop making marketplace products and start making a better game. you're not the best at counting, are you?
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 204	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:38:00 - [14] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: people have been playing this beta for almost 2 years and still only one Objective game mode in the game.. Still no large scale combat, still no new game modes.... Stop making marketplace products and start making a better game. Go back to MAG then.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2098	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:40:00 - [15] - Quote I'd rather aiming and game mechanic balancing get fixed
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 220	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:59:00 - [16] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: people have been playing this beta for almost 2 years and still only one Objective game mode in the game.. Still no large scale combat, still no new game modes.... Stop making marketplace products and start making a better game. Go back to MAG then. Why would I go back to the same situation?
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 220	Posted - 2013.06.25 20:59:00 - [17] - Quote Cosgar wrote: I'd rather aiming and game mechanic balancing get fixed haven't been fixed yet, and never will be.
Severance Pay Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 483	Posted - 2013.06.25 21:09:00 - [18] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: people have been playing this beta for almost 2 years and still only one Objective game mode in the game.. Still no large scale combat, still no new game modes.... Stop making marketplace products and start making a better game. CCP Eterne states that they will respond to user feedback, and start fixing the bugs so that it is playable and new content will come after. They have decided instead of adding new content they will fix all the bugs that were released in uprising. Please go somewhere and die.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 480	Posted - 2013.06.25 21:19:00 - [19] - Quote meh... so many things need to be fixed first before we even bother with new game modes.
General Regret PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 0	Posted - 2013.06.25 21:53:00 - [20] - Quote Help improve the core of the game first like mechanics and so. Plus with only 5k players active more game modes would mean more time waiting - less game time Adios!

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4542	Posted - 2013.06.25 22:25:00 - [21] - Quote General Regret wrote: Help improve the core of the game first like mechanics and so. Plus with only 5k players active more game modes would mean more time waiting - less game time Adios! We only have 2 real modes, OMS should just be included with Ambush, and Domination should be included in Skirmish; the number of objectives does not justify a new mode, its like making 5 point objective its own separate mode. Our 2 game modes aren't even that great, just TDM which every other shooter has, and some point control mode like every other shooter also has. There is no complex multi-stage game mode like the original Skirmish 1.0; this game fails when it comes to game modes. Also the playercount argument is bad, players will quit because they're bored of the same 2 modes (and variations), and decrease playercount, and not adding game modes because of playercount decrease will only cause a downward spiral.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2079	Posted - 2013.06.25 22:59:00 - [22] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: The devblog today didn't include everything, hopefully we see the return of Skirm 1.0. I dont get it, how come its taking them so long to implement a gamemode they know works, anyway? Because it didn't exactly work perfectly, man, which is why it was removed in the first place. It was extremely vulnerable to some pretty lame cheese. KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: General Regret wrote: Help improve the core of the game first like mechanics and so. Plus with only 5k players active more game modes would mean more time waiting - less game time Adios! We only have 2 real modes, OMS should just be included with Ambush, and Domination should be included in Skirmish; the number of objectives does not justify a new mode, its like making 5 point objective its own separate mode. Our 2 game modes aren't even that great, just TDM which every other shooter has, and some point control mode like every other shooter also has. There is no complex multi-stage game mode like the original Skirmish 1.0; this game fails when it comes to game modes. Also the playercount argument is bad, players will quit because they're bored of the same 2 modes (and variations), and decrease playercount, and not adding game modes because of playercount decrease will only cause a downward spiral. So, basically they have to fix every single problem all at the same time for 1.2? Seems a little unrealistic, man.
TheMarkOf22 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 223	Posted - 2013.06.26 00:33:00 - [23] - Quote Severance Pay wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: people have been playing this beta for almost 2 years and still only one Objective game mode in the game.. Still no large scale combat, still no new game modes.... Stop making marketplace products and start making a better game. CCP Eterne states that they will respond to user feedback, and start fixing the bugs so that it is playable and new content will come after. They have decided instead of adding new content they will fix all the bugs that were released in uprising. Please go somewhere and die. What exactly are they fixing this build? and on what attempt are they on? They don't seem to have a problem adding new aurum gear everyday.... Are you really that dumb?
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 422	Posted - 2013.06.26 00:38:00 - [24] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Severance Pay wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: people have been playing this beta for almost 2 years and still only one Objective game mode in the game.. Still no large scale combat, still no new game modes.... Stop making marketplace products and start making a better game. CCP Eterne states that they will respond to user feedback, and start fixing the bugs so that it is playable and new content will come after. They have decided instead of adding new content they will fix all the bugs that were released in uprising. Please go somewhere and die. What exactly are they fixing this build? and on what attempt are they on? Read the blog and find out. Also don't forget tto read the one tomorrow and the one on Thursday.
Alik'ar Morbin Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.06.26 01:54:00 - [25] - Quote How hard is it to activate skirmish 1.0? CCP jian said "Skirmish 1.0 is coming back!" At fanfest this year. Wonder how long that will take? Lool Another line we can all wait and hold our breath for. ROFL #dustfailed
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission 208	Posted - 2013.06.26 02:23:00 - [26] - Quote I would rather have the "core mechanics" fixed like AIMING, hit detection, PC lag etc etc... Flush this ** out with these supposed "rapid fire updates".. Then next major content release, give us an amazing skirmish 3.0 with said repaired, solid foundation, 24v24 with all racial varients while making sure not to "fix ** that isnt broken..." Will CCP do this? Not gonna hold my breath...
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4549	Posted - 2013.06.26 02:27:00 - [27] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Knight SoIaire wrote: The devblog today didn't include everything, hopefully we see the return of Skirm 1.0. I dont get it, how come its taking them so long to implement a gamemode they know works, anyway? Because it didn't exactly work perfectly, man, which is why it was removed in the first place. It was extremely vulnerable to some pretty lame cheese. KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: General Regret wrote: Help improve the core of the game first like mechanics and so. Plus with only 5k players active more game modes would mean more time waiting - less game time Adios! We only have 2 real modes, OMS should just be included with Ambush, and Domination should be included in Skirmish; the number of objectives does not justify a new mode, its like making 5 point objective its own separate mode. Our 2 game modes aren't even that great, just TDM which every other shooter has, and some point control mode like every other shooter also has. There is no complex multi-stage game mode like the original Skirmish 1.0; this game fails when it comes to game modes. Also the playercount argument is bad, players will quit because they're bored of the same 2 modes (and variations), and decrease playercount, and not adding game modes because of playercount decrease will only cause a downward spiral. So, basically they have to fix every single problem all at the same time for 1.2? Seems a little unrealistic, man. It doesn't have to come at 1.2, but it needs to be a top priority. LogicLoop said that despite him trying to push it, SK 1.0 is still not a big priority for CCP.
geddeylee Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.06.27 07:13:00 - [28] - Quote Just flip the switch for skirmish 1.0
freddy49 fix Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.27 08:07:00 - [29] - Quote geddeylee wrote: Just flip the switch for skirmish 1.0 I agree with the re release of skirmish 1.0. How hard can it be?
Michael Arck sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.06.27 08:37:00 - [30] - Quote Nothing happens overnight. EVE has came a very long way. No doubt Dust will have the same progression. I don't even understand your complaint since every FPS offers the same modes. It's just different executions and different titles.

Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2030	Posted - 2013.06.27 09:42:00 - [31] - Quote Django Quik wrote: lol 2 years. Closed beta started March 2012. It's June 2013. Maybe for you
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2030	Posted - 2013.06.27 09:44:00 - [32] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: people have been playing this beta for almost 2 years and still only one Objective game mode in the game.. Still no large scale combat, still no new game modes.... Stop making marketplace products and start making a better game. It's not coming now. It's not coming soon. It's not even in development. Not an iota of exaggeration or speculation. Apparently CCP believes "stay the course" is the way to make the game succeed. I think that's dumb. They are focusing on polishing individual chunks of code as if they are in a vacuum and no urgency on the gameplay itself being fun or engaging.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission 186	Posted - 2013.06.27 09:51:00 - [33] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: Draco Dustflier wrote: What i'm wondering is how they thought they could pull off something as complicated as what they were promising with dust if they can't even make a game mode. For the longest time I did actually believe Skirmish in it's current state was a slapdash placeholder mode for testing how the different elements of Dust interacted with each other. me too. I was expecting an MMO with Eve connection - and we were only seeing a glimpse of the game. Nope. it seems all marketing and Noc's comments suggests that if they even have a roadmap and not just a whiteboard in the office with things we would like we are 5 years minimum away from what has been promoted not only on these forums but at industry events.
Sir Petersen Valhalla Nord 213	Posted - 2013.06.27 09:54:00 - [34] - Quote TheMarkOf22 wrote: Cosgar wrote: I'd rather aiming and game mechanic balancing get fixed haven't been fixed yet, and never will be. Does not need to be fixed when it-¦s not broken.
zzZaXxx The Exemplars 4	Posted - 2013.06.27 10:03:00 - [35] - Quote The core mechanics are first priority....but I hope they add at least 2 new maps into 1.3. And another game mode soon yes please. And rewards for FW (and all game modes added to it) to draw protos out of instant battles....though that might dillute the field too much.
Allah's Snackbar Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 261	Posted - 2013.06.27 10:06:00 - [36] - Quote Taurion Bruni wrote: CCP is hard at work to fix the millions of things that others have asked for, they are not super programmers, for a game to work right, you need time. Problem is they set super high expectations and took money from people based on them. Just saying.
Sir Petersen Valhalla Nord 213	Posted - 2013.06.27 10:07:00 - [37] - Quote Allah's Snackbar wrote: Taurion Bruni wrote: CCP is hard at work to fix the millions of things that others have asked for, they are not super programmers, for a game to work right, you need time. Problem is they set super high expectations and took money from people based on them. Just saying. Took money from people? Are you for real??
Purona Militaires Sans Jeux 13	Posted - 2013.06.27 10:38:00 - [38] - Quote This game only has 5 thousand players on at a time. If CCP were to add 10 game modes. They would just end up dividing the player base amongst those 10 game modes. What CCP should be doing is circulating game modes on a weekly or bi weekly basis or just copy killzone and have multiple objectives per game
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 551	Posted - 2013.06.27 11:56:00 - [39] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Django Quik wrote: lol 2 years. Closed beta started March 2012. It's June 2013. Maybe for you Yeah and remember when being on the Warbarge was the all Blue Power Rangers club.....lol.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 551	Posted - 2013.06.27 11:59:00 - [40] - Quote Purona wrote: This game only has 5 thousand players on at a time. If CCP were to add 10 game modes. They would just end up dividing the player base amongst those 10 game modes. What CCP should be doing is circulating game modes on a weekly or bi weekly basis or just copy killzone and have multiple objectives per game NO. PEAK number is 5000 but sustained player count is LOWER like 3000. Source: Eveonline.

DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 61	Posted - 2013.06.27 12:40:00 - [41] - Quote Look people the dev's look at the threads that have the most people on them and have relevant ideas you all think their needs to be new game modes comment on this post here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=89930 or this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=89978&find=unread and if you can't comprehensively come up with an idea like this or you don't have any thing to add simply quote the post and type ^this. This goes for not only this post but any other post you see on these forums that have merit the idea is for as many people as possible to add their 2 cents because CCP definitely looks at the forums that are hot
RevoItZ Red Star. EoN. 47	Posted - 2013.06.27 12:54:00 - [42] - Quote What game modes would you like Pdiggy? I think TDM and Domination are fine atm, although I would like a mode similar to Sticks and Stones on COD. FFA wager match mode, with possibly A standard gear variant(Meaning everyone uses the same gear level and modules) and use what you damn please variant, at the end though, all gear used is converted to its ISK amount and distributed to the top players.
KING SALASI MAJOR DISTRIBUTION 70	Posted - 2013.06.27 13:32:00 - [43] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: TheMarkOf22 wrote: people have been playing this beta for almost 2 years and still only one Objective game mode in the game.. Still no large scale combat, still no new game modes.... Stop making marketplace products and start making a better game. Go back to MAG then. Mag is better than Dust TBH I wish Sony would make a MAG 2. Dust had the longest beta in console history. They still launched a turd, uprising was another beta build. PC was the new game type that was suppose to be tested. CCP won't tell you this but dust is still in beta with disguise of being an open release. 1.2 is just a patch for the current beta build we have. I'm so disappointed with CCP dust was the worse gaming exp I've ever had. I've been playing video game for over 25 years. Im not excited about 1.2 it's just bug fixes that should have been fixed before so called release. At this point we should have a full game and we still don't lol.
RoundEy3 Metal Mind Industries 146	Posted - 2013.06.27 13:41:00 - [44] - Quote KING SALASI wrote: CCP won't tell you this but dust is still in beta with disguise of being an open release. I have to keep telling myself this to justify my playing lately. If I believed that this game was a full release I would never speak of it again. Actually when I talk to my friends about DUST I tell them it's actually still a beta, no joke.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 554	Posted - 2013.06.27 14:14:00 - [45] - Quote xLTShinySidesx wrote: I'm glad they used 1.2 to fix core skills personally, all the extras can wait. Priorities! Please tell me your joking right? I mean the patch notes have almost no fixes with the gameplay. IE no aiming fixes, no fix to reload glitch, no fix to ground grab glitch....etc. Infact the patchnotes themselves are lackluster at best. The only thing that they have on the patch notes that appears good is the change to the max range.................I am all in favor of them fixing gameplay before adding new features...when i actually see a patch note that mentions they have fixed these issues (so far i think there are 2 different patch notes which mentioned fixing the reload glitch and the ground glitch...they fixed yet?....nope ....LOL) #Dustfail


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