I think the fun factor is not there. Through all the bugs, glitches, poor terrain mapping, bad fps gameplay...at the very core of it all is the game just isn't fun.

I used to put up with hours upon hours of socom4 bugs because at the core of the game it was sincerely fun to kill someone. This game lacks fun game modes, content, and anything more than a promise by CCP.

I followed this game from the first E3 spot in 2010, the promise of large scale warfare. Commanding troops across a battlefield similar to MAG Domination except 10x better. A game that you could customize anything, including something as simple as the scope on my gun or the color of my armor.

This shell of a game is what we have, it doesn't even feel like a game sometimes. Its a job because the only reason to log into play is to grind for SP so that those that clinged to hope that this game would one day be good would not be behind the curve.

It's not 1/2 the realistic combat game BF3 is.

It's not 1/2 the large scale combat game MAG was.

It's not 1/2 the competitiveness of what Socom was.

It can't even get the aiming mechanics right and that's just even the fun part. Aiming and hit detection is the core of the game that wolfenstein 3D even had down. What hope is there for a game that doesn't even have the core feature of an FPS, much less the features that are supposed to differentiate it from other FPS?

The PC system is so disconnected from anything resembling ownership or meaning that it lacks value other than wasting an extra 30 minutes to get into a battle.

I'm not sure what elements CCP decided to focus on instead of these things, I imagine them making a lava planet and MTACS in their shanghai office and forgetting that their core audience just wants to shoot assault rifles with fun sounds, game modes, shooting mechanics, and a sense of epicness.

Dust just never delivered on anything.

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stealth updates, lack of pve or reason to grind SP, devs ignore/not caring to fix actual broken core mechanics within a reasonable timeframe, no plan or roadmap for getting better, limited to none response from CCP on anything, limited core mechanics, twitch aiming, imbalances that are just broke rather then out of balance, no tutorial with FPS mechanics and front loaded text based walls tutorials, disconnects, and other less important minor details like hidden stats.
to restore my faith.. dunno some real reason to play rather then grind SP/ISK and no more stealth updates.

For me, it's the lack of content available to us right now. There's plenty of fitting options for both vehicles and dropsuits, but continuously throwing them into meaningless pub matches / FW games gets old at some point.

I will say, however, that I'll be watching this game very closely for updates and features. It's a great concept, but there are other games out there that are fun now, rather than later down the road.

Assuming that I were to leave Dust, it would be for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM3h_IcIpzs

Simply because it seems FUN.

...nothing else has hyped me up more for PS2...

BUUUUUUT, If CCP added some mechas on the next buildi, it would be fun...

actually the HAV nerf had heavy support from CPM and are asking for even more nerfs to HAVs and other vehicles as well so this is an area where they did listen to CPM and not the vehicle base which CPM is strongly against as infantry guys, they want to remove almost all functionality of vehicles to be just transports with paper thin armor and no weapons.

... cuz I'm bored k.

we arent interested in trolls or doom and gloomers, but those who have been a solid part of this community who feel the game is no longer a place for them. Why do you feel this way? what if anything can be done to restore your faith in this game? Have you suggested changes? What were the results? What are your issues with the game specifically [please note 'aiming is bad' tells us nothing]

thanks for any and all replies.

Terrible communication
Terrible FPS Mechanics
No respecs (Gets boring quick)
Its a grind
Lag
FPS Drops
Pointless PC
Getting stuck in walls, the ground .etc as I'm trying to run away

Pretty much it.

PS2 does have its moments, but most of the people transferring their hopes for a scifi FPS to it from Dust 514 will probably be disappointed.

^ this too, reminds me of a game called Metal Warrior, for Super Nintendo....and i'm a mecha fan, and Dust doesn't have mechas.....

BUUUUUUT, If CCP added some mechas on the next buildi, it would be fun...

I'm not leaving. PS4 is a fine looking machine but the brutal truth is there isn't any games at its launch that I'm bothered about.

And while we're on the subject, where is it that players banging on about Dust not being on the PS4 on day one think that 80m PS3 are going to go on launch day?

It's taken seven years to not only sell 80m units, its taken that long to build the things in the first place! Are you all so wrapped into your own bitterness of CCP's 'failure' to launch for not as yet available console, that your convincing yourselves that Sony has a warehouse with 80m PS4's ready to go on day one in case every single PS3 owner on the planet decides to upgrade on the first day?

The PS3 launched at the tail end of an economic boom. There was more people with disposable income to splurge out on an expansive console. There's a reason why Sony announced a PS4 price lower than its predesessor. There's a world wide recession. Frankly a new console is now a luxury item for many. Sony and the industry in general aren't expecting the same kind of early adoption figures that the last gen enjoyed.

So on the PS3 we have a cheaper console with lots of games that Sony are going to continue to make for a while to come. (They only stopped making the PS2 about 18 months ago), that developers are still going to support for at least 5 years because of that 80m installed user base. And CCP are producing a free FPS game on that format that will get better with time? And will launch on the PS4 at some time and likely other formats once the exclusively period ends.

You can say I'm clutching at straws if you want. Whatever it takes to fulfill your own pessimistic views. But if you've sat down and spoken to senior CCP members including Hilmar over the charity lunch as I did at Fanfest you'll know CCP are in this for the long run. Which is why I'll sticking around, running D-UNI for quite a while yet.

Just leave if it is that bad to you.

I'm not leaving. PS4 is a fine looking machine but the brutal truth is there isn't any games at its launch that I'm bothered about.

And while we're on the subject, where is it that players banging on about Dust not being on the PS4 on day one think that 80m PS3 are going to go on launch day?

It's taken seven years to not only sell 80m units, its taken that long to build the things in the first place! Are you all so wrapped into your own bitterness of CCP's 'failure' to launch for not as yet available console, that your convincing yourselves that Sony has a warehouse with 80m PS4's ready to go on day one in case every single PS3 owner on the planet decides to upgrade on the first day?

The PS3 launched at the tail end of an economic boom. There was more people with disposable income to splurge out on an expansive console. There's a reason why Sony announced a PS4 price lower than its predesessor. There's a world wide recession. Frankly a new console is now a luxury item for many. Sony and the industry in general aren't expecting the same kind of early adoption figures that the last gen enjoyed.

So on the PS3 we have a cheaper console with lots of games that Sony are going to continue to make for a while to come. (They only stopped making the PS2 about 18 months ago), that developers are still going to support for at least 5 years because of that 80m installed user base. And CCP are producing a free FPS game on that format that will get better with time? And will launch on the PS4 at some time and likely other formats once the exclusively period ends.

You can say I'm clutching at straws if you want. Whatever it takes to fulfill your own pessimistic views. But if you've sat down and spoken to senior CCP members including Hilmar over the charity lunch as I did at Fanfest you'll know CCP are in this for the long run. Which is why I'll sticking around, running D-UNI for quite a while yet.

They really have managed to brainwash you haven't they?

Good counter-argument and nice way to present your view there, champ.

Well excuse me if i can't be bothered to try and explain reality to an ultimate fanboy.

we arent interested in trolls or doom and gloomers, but those who have been a solid part of this community who feel the game is no longer a place for them. Why do you feel this way? what if anything can be done to restore your faith in this game? Have you suggested changes? What were the results? What are your issues with the game specifically [please note 'aiming is bad' tells us nothing]

thanks for any and all replies.