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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:06:00 -
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Look guys and girls To be honest instead of complaining about how the game is failing and or player count or how bad the game is why not in your thread be specific about what issues are bad fill both the main forum thread and the bugs/problem thread with them too in detail of whats wrong with the game CCP knows people are unhappy with the current state of the game and they know the numbers are down so why not address the issue non stop with exact detail of the issue? or put up a petition on each problem seperately and have the community vote on it or sign on it. this will give CCP no reason to ignore this and work on it. So if this fails then they can actually take full responcability for their loss in both game sales AUR, and weak player count cuz right now i would look at these threads and skim right past them if i was a dev. because its all the same thing. complaining about absolutly nothing technical. be smart about it and push for them to fix the gme you so called loved cared about thought was going to be great or whatever it is you thought.
also instead of voting for idiots who abuse exploits as cpm or whatever it is vote for people who actually want the game to be great dont vote for them because they simply are good players or eve players vote for them because they make valid points about errors in the game and because they care about where this games ends up. with this being said goodnight all see you on the battlefield. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
464
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:14:00 -
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Ya, if people helped CCP more by adding more detail instead of saying,
"i lagged last game wtf CCP"
Help CCP to help you. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1685
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:17:00 -
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People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks.
I'm not at all convinced that CCP "listening to the community" has any impact whatsoever on their ability to actually make a decent game. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
411
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:20:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks.
^This.
Now instead most of us have finally given up altogether and stopped playing. We lurk the forums from time to time to see if there are any developments. But beyond it I rather see the player counts tank and watch the rise in threads about getting Dced and lag as the match stability goes to hell when the matchmaking can't find good matches in a the dwindling player pool. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
92
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:20:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks.
you know tho it does take time and people did comment on it directly and ccp moved at a faster rate then they are moving now. yea it takes some time because its tech work but atleast they did something before now its so many fail threads that it makes it hard to even look at them people need to be mature about it and give it the atual title of the issue time date and how long its been going on without a qq thread.
or trolls posting negative feedback on everything people just need to be mature about it. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1687
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:22:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Baal Roo wrote:People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks. ^This. Now instead most of us have finally given up altogether and stopped playing. We lurk the forums from time to time to see if there are any developments. But beyond it I rather see the player counts tank and watch the rise in threads about getting Dced and lag as the match stability goes to hell when the matchmaking can't find good matches in a the dwindling player pool.
Yeah, it really seems like the cheerleading we saw from the majority of the playerbase over the course of the last year or so has done very little to help the game along. Now it's time to get real and hold CCP's feet to the flames. The game sucks, and we're going to tell them until they do something about it. Plain and simple. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
92
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:24:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Baal Roo wrote:People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks. ^This. Now instead most of us have finally given up altogether and stopped playing. We lurk the forums from time to time to see if there are any developments. But beyond it I rather see the player counts tank and watch the rise in threads about getting Dced and lag as the match stability goes to hell when the matchmaking can't find good matches in a the dwindling player pool. Yeah, it really seems like the cheerleading we saw from the majority of the playerbase over the course of the last year or so has done very little to help the game along. Now it's time to get real and hold CCP's feet to the flames. The game sucks, and we're going to tell them until they do something about it. Plain and simple.
this will only make them ignore it more. to be honest they done made bank off you and 99% of people on this game through AUR so Fact would be you will sit here and bash someone laughing at you because u spent money on a game they didnt fix.
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
411
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:25:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Baal Roo wrote:People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks. ^This. Now instead most of us have finally given up altogether and stopped playing. We lurk the forums from time to time to see if there are any developments. But beyond it I rather see the player counts tank and watch the rise in threads about getting Dced and lag as the match stability goes to hell when the matchmaking can't find good matches in a the dwindling player pool. Yeah, it really seems like the cheerleading we saw from the majority of the playerbase over the course of the last year or so has done very little to help the game along. Now it's time to get real and hold CCP's feet to the flames. The game sucks, and we're going to tell them until they do something about it. Plain and simple.
Worse still is that much of the feedback from a year ago STILL hasn't made its way into game and each time they give us a new build its basically a new iteration of the game and all that previous feedback gets thrown out the window. It literally feels like 1 step forward followed by 10 steps back.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
340
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:25:00 -
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take hostages |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1687
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:26:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Baal Roo wrote:People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks. you know tho it does take time and people did comment on it directly and ccp moved at a faster rate then they are moving now. yea it takes some time because its tech work but atleast they did something before now its so many fail threads that it makes it hard to even look at them people need to be mature about it and give it the atual title of the issue time date and how long its been going on without a qq thread. or trolls posting negative feedback on everything people just need to be mature about it.
yeah, I just fundamentally disagree. The game has made a hilariously small amount of progress, and in my own estimation I'd say we ended up with about 10% of the game we were told we would have by this point (and this is me being generous). To say their progress has been underwhelming by their own measure of where they should be by now would be a massive understatement.
I don't claim to know why the game is soooo insanely far behind where they expected it to be, but it's not MY job to know these things. It IS their job, and as far as I can tell, they are terrible at it. |
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
92
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:26:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Baal Roo wrote:People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks. ^This. Now instead most of us have finally given up altogether and stopped playing. We lurk the forums from time to time to see if there are any developments. But beyond it I rather see the player counts tank and watch the rise in threads about getting Dced and lag as the match stability goes to hell when the matchmaking can't find good matches in a the dwindling player pool. Yeah, it really seems like the cheerleading we saw from the majority of the playerbase over the course of the last year or so has done very little to help the game along. Now it's time to get real and hold CCP's feet to the flames. The game sucks, and we're going to tell them until they do something about it. Plain and simple. this will only make them ignore it more. to be honest they done made bank off you and 99% of people on this game through AUR so Fact would be you will sit here and bash someone laughing at you because u spent money on a game they didnt fix.
so why not try and get the community on the same page and fix it? same way your devoted to your clan corp or whatever and woulnt want it to fail would be the same way you push the devs to keep the game in working condition. |
JonnyAugust
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
266
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:27:00 -
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I used to give full 3 page reports on this game. After a year of beta testing of being constantly rebuked by the small vocal minority that hangs out in the IRC, I said fuckit. The no lifers won this game not through SP grinding but through the unseen IRC community that this forum community forgets about and is the hand that guides CCP.
I almost got banned for voicing my opinion too. CCP has made their bed, now they can sleep in it. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
411
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:27:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Baal Roo wrote:People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks. ^This. Now instead most of us have finally given up altogether and stopped playing. We lurk the forums from time to time to see if there are any developments. But beyond it I rather see the player counts tank and watch the rise in threads about getting Dced and lag as the match stability goes to hell when the matchmaking can't find good matches in a the dwindling player pool. Yeah, it really seems like the cheerleading we saw from the majority of the playerbase over the course of the last year or so has done very little to help the game along. Now it's time to get real and hold CCP's feet to the flames. The game sucks, and we're going to tell them until they do something about it. Plain and simple. this will only make them ignore it more. to be honest they done made bank off you and 99% of people on this game through AUR so Fact would be you will sit here and bash someone laughing at you because u spent money on a game they didnt fix.
Haha that's why im getting my character wiped and getting Sony to refund all my money since it was spent on a beta not a commercial product. Sony couldn't do anything before because it was in beta but now that it's CR Sony very much can get the refund issued.
So yea who will be laughing then. All it takes is one person to do it, post how they did it and watch the floodgates flow. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
92
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:28:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Baal Roo wrote:People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks. you know tho it does take time and people did comment on it directly and ccp moved at a faster rate then they are moving now. yea it takes some time because its tech work but atleast they did something before now its so many fail threads that it makes it hard to even look at them people need to be mature about it and give it the atual title of the issue time date and how long its been going on without a qq thread. or trolls posting negative feedback on everything people just need to be mature about it. yeah, I just fundamentally disagree. The game has made a hilariously small amount of progress, and in my own estimation I'd say we ended up with about 10% of the game we were told we would have by this point (and this is me being generous). To say their progress has been underwhelming by their own measure of where they should be by now would be a massive understatement. I don't claim to know why the game is soooo insanely far behind where they expected it to be, but it's not MY job to know these things. It IS their job, and as far as I can tell, they are terrible at it.
i agree im not arguing with you that the game is ****.. it is ****. but it can be great or better in time if we work as one big a$$ unit to get them to get the job done not only this but vote the right cpm members instead of a popularity contest. |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1691
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:28:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Baal Roo wrote:People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks. ^This. Now instead most of us have finally given up altogether and stopped playing. We lurk the forums from time to time to see if there are any developments. But beyond it I rather see the player counts tank and watch the rise in threads about getting Dced and lag as the match stability goes to hell when the matchmaking can't find good matches in a the dwindling player pool. Yeah, it really seems like the cheerleading we saw from the majority of the playerbase over the course of the last year or so has done very little to help the game along. Now it's time to get real and hold CCP's feet to the flames. The game sucks, and we're going to tell them until they do something about it. Plain and simple. this will only make them ignore it more. to be honest they done made bank off you and 99% of people on this game through AUR so Fact would be you will sit here and bash someone laughing at you because u spent money on a game they didnt fix. so why not try and get the community on the same page and fix it? same way your devoted to your clan corp or whatever and woulnt want it to fail would be the same way you push the devs to keep the game in working condition.
Because most have completely lost faith in CCP's ability to produce a decent product.
There's still a chance of a hail mary, but most of us are in the parking lot warming up our cars and talking about how we wasted money on our tickets at this point.
Besides, there's nothing the community can do. This is CCP's problem to fix, and frankly, most of us don't care if they fix it or not. If the game doesn't drastically improve, the game will just die a slow painful death as everyone moves on to games that don't suck. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
46
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:31:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Look guys and girls To be honest instead of complaining about how the game is failing and or player count or how bad the game is why not in your thread be specific about what issues are bad fill both the main forum thread and the bugs/problem thread with them too in detail of whats wrong with the game CCP knows people are unhappy with the current state of the game and they know the numbers are down so why not address the issue non stop with exact detail of the issue? or put up a petition on each problem seperately and have the community vote on it or sign on it. this will give CCP no reason to ignore this and work on it. So if this fails then they can actually take full responcability for their loss in both game sales AUR, and weak player count cuz right now i would look at these threads and skim right past them if i was a dev. because its all the same thing. complaining about absolutly nothing technical. be smart about it and push for them to fix the gme you so called loved cared about thought was going to be great or whatever it is you thought. also instead of voting for idiots who abuse exploits as cpm or whatever it is vote for people who actually want the game to be great dont vote for them because they simply are good players or eve players vote for them because they make valid points about errors in the game and because they care about where this games ends up. with this being said goodnight all see you on the battlefield.
No you look.
I have said the game is bad and i have said the numbers are down but i have been crystal clear on why it is bad and why the numbers are down.
PUB STOMPING.
Also any time i bring up PuB stomping i am forced to defend my argument and also get called troll and am told i am only complaining and on and on and on....until the whole discussion devolves into "10 years" and "CoD clone".
I can give a million suggestions of how to stop Pub stomping....but guess what the community has given a billion suggestions and CCP has picked and chosen from those suggestions and we ended up with a garbage game with PuB stomping.
Furthermore the forums are not exclusively for suggestions to CCP...they say they read them...fine...that does not mean every god damn thing we write about here needs to be for CCP consumption.
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Yeah i agree the council needs to step down and let someone else fill those slots...or disband it completely. I know for a fact not one of them represent what i think and i know for a fact the work they have done so far has resulted in a bad game. That is how these things work. You fail You leave. The council has failed...time for them to leave. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
92
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:32:00 -
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nice anology i understand your views man i cant be mad at you either for it. im just trying to give us some kind of hope for the game. this game woulda been fun on the ps4 system with more ppl to play against. but i understand your point. ill still follow my own advice and try to get some word from ccp nd the cpm. |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
235
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:34:00 -
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I think things really finally started to fall apart about a month or so ago when we found out that many/most of the Dust Dev team didn't (and still don't) want to listen or communicate with us. Since then we've been told that this is going to change, but so far things are exactly the same. People are disgruntled and feel like they don't care about us so we don't care about them. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
92
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Posted - 2013.06.22 00:35:00 -
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Sete Clifton wrote:I think things really finally started to fall apart about a month or so ago when we found out that many/most of the Dust Dev team didn't (and still don't) want to listen or communicate with us. Since then we've been told that this is going to change, but so far things are exactly the same. People are disgruntled and feel like they don't care about us so we don't care about them.
trust me i know this. ive put out many bugs and idea threads only to be shot down by trolls internet tough guys and ban emails.
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
92
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Posted - 2013.06.22 02:02:00 -
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but still it wont kill to try and keep trying till atleast ps4 drops or something exciting for the ps3 drops. |
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
414
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Posted - 2013.06.22 05:14:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:but still it wont kill to try and keep trying till atleast ps4 drops or something exciting for the ps3 drops.
Last of US Final Fantasy 14 Beta
Fun stuff is already here.
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
94
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Posted - 2013.06.22 09:28:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:but still it wont kill to try and keep trying till atleast ps4 drops or something exciting for the ps3 drops. Last of US Final Fantasy 14 Beta Fun stuff is already here.
not trying to be an a$$ but why are you in the forums of this game if ur so into these other games?? |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.06.22 09:33:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:People gave feedback for a year. Much of it very mature, and very detailed. The game still sucks.
I'm not at all convinced that CCP "listening to the community" has any impact whatsoever on their ability to actually make a decent game.
This a million times. Why you think people is so mad ? Some people use to write full articles about how to improve the game, and CCP ignored all of it. |
PonyClause Rex
TRAMADOL KNIGHTS
181
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Posted - 2013.06.22 09:37:00 -
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JonnyAugust wrote:I used to give full 3 page reports on this game. After a year of beta testing of being constantly rebuked by the small vocal minority that hangs out in the IRC, I said fuckit. The no lifers won this game not through SP grinding but through the unseen IRC community that this forum community forgets about and is the hand that guides CCP.
I almost got banned for voicing my opinion too. CCP has made their bed, now they can sleep in it.
Ive seen people suggest ideas that will benefit themselves and there agenda, but every now and then someone will pitch an idea or fix that will be unbiased and will completely shot down by a few vocal individuals and there little yes men come crawling out of the wood work to back them up and they probably only read the first few lines of your reports you mentioned.
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soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
60
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Posted - 2013.06.22 09:54:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:but still it wont kill to try and keep trying till atleast ps4 drops or something exciting for the ps3 drops. Last of US Final Fantasy 14 Beta Fun stuff is already here. not trying to be an a$$ but why are you in the forums of this game if ur so into these other games??
Is he not allowed to play more than one game? Just because he might favor those two over Dust does not mean he is not allowed to play other games as well or visit their forums.
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Faquira Bleuetta
0uter.Heaven League of Infamy
13
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Posted - 2013.06.22 09:59:00 -
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money |
Ferren Devarri
ARES.inc
23
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Posted - 2013.06.22 10:42:00 -
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It's up to CCP. We're just spinning our wheels.
They're ambitious, but they need to decide what their next step is now that DUST is leaving them with bad footing.
It's not appropriate to compare their project too harshly with, say, the BF series which is about as visionary as a blindfold in terms of scope. Planetside 2 had its good and bad points to learn from, such as the valuable lesson about how persistant a cheating community can become and how it affects your playerbase. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
415
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Posted - 2013.06.22 14:37:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:but still it wont kill to try and keep trying till atleast ps4 drops or something exciting for the ps3 drops. Last of US Final Fantasy 14 Beta Fun stuff is already here. not trying to be an a$$ but why are you in the forums of this game if ur so into these other games?? Is he not allowed to play more than one game? Just because he might favor those two over Dust does not mean he is not allowed to play other games as well or visit their forums.
Pretty much this. If Dust was where it should be it would be my go to game and it still can be. Ive given all the feedback on this game. Given valid reasons and provided good insight into why. Then i have the MMO crowd trying to fight me on the FPS balancing thinking too much in terms of MMO. Meanwhile ive given feedback on where and how the MMO aspects of this game should be integrated.
Meta, Market, Logistics really the best parts of EVE incorporate that into a good shooter without a needless grind on your character or at least a grind that doesnt exist until after 10-15M SP is accumulated and you will make a great game.
Worked with True Grit and honestly the way they crowd source their iterations and come directly here with their ideas unafraid to make changes based on our feedback BEFORE implementation and then CONTINUING to tweak is how EVERY DEV TEAM IN CCP should try to work with us.
PC isn't perfect but its seen the greatest strides in the shortest amount of time because the DEV TEAM ACTIVELY seeks out our opinions.
Frankly im tired of waiting on everyone else been doing it long enough. Only reason why i havent fully left is the small sliver of hope but the pivotal thing EVE players need to understand is that unlike EVE where the small player pool is sufficient to survive because it is TRULY OPEN WORLD, Dust is still a lobby shooter and for matchmaking to function properly it needs a good pool without it matchmaking and game stability begin to decline or have you not noticed the increase number of threads about lag, d/c etc. Why do you think that is? The client is deteriorating? No its because the pool is too shallow to find good mathces.
And if we begin to leave and some like me who may yet opt to wipe our characters and seek a refund from Sony since all our money was spent during a beta phase could and would likely cripple the game. But hey maybe we should do that and put this game out of its misery. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
64
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Posted - 2013.06.22 15:07:00 -
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JonnyAugust wrote:I used to give full 3 page reports on this game. After a year of beta testing of being constantly rebuked by the small vocal minority that hangs out in the IRC, I said fuckit. The no lifers won this game not through SP grinding but through the unseen IRC community that this forum community forgets about and is the hand that guides CCP.
I almost got banned for voicing my opinion too. CCP has made their bed, now they can sleep in it.
We are back to 4000 players which are the beta players. IRC chat is where CCP takes adive. The forums are just for LOL's again what was the purpose of the beta? What is to reward the beta players by having them keep their SP for the official release?
As a CCP fanboy i lost hope the game have so many issues. To many list CCP is very slow with fixing things. The only thing i do now is let my toon passively skill, play eve or other games.
The player base will continue to shrink eventually the die hards will leave as well. Dust looks like it failed someone in CCP or Sonywill plug and stop development on this project.
The best thing for CCP is to add dust as a expansion to EVE and to make it PC only. The console experiment failed miserably. I say cut bait and move on. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
707
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Posted - 2013.06.22 15:16:00 -
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Yep, more closed beta player butthurt rageposting.
It's not *our* game... it's *their* game and we play it. Or we don't in some cases due to the issues.
Frankly, all the writing up "how to make the game better" just runs into a wall of counter argument and counter opinion not to mention trolling. I wouldn't be offended if your personal viewpoint was not represented by the actions of CCP.
****posting, pubstomping, and other childish tactics will not help.
Tired of not being listened to... stop giving advice. Also stop screwing over the new players just because they are new -- it sure as hell is not their fault. You need to adapt or die in terms of new players taking over -- as their quantities, in theory, will vastly outnumber the number of vets most of the time.
That's life. It's like growing up. You aren't so special anymore... nobody but mommy really cares what you think. ;) |
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