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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.06.21 13:45:00 -
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Queen of Uranus wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Queen of Uranus wrote:Django Quik wrote:Queen of Uranus wrote:Assume much? It's pretty safe to assume that corps with land are fighting for it pretty regularly. Considering some gave it up like it had AIDS? Yea point proven. SMH.  Some of us also never even started it cause despite her being hot, we knew she had AIDS. Even moar reason to say it's broken don't you think?
Yeah, good point.
Timers need to go, scheduled battles go against the spirit of the game. Anyone should be able to attack any district at any time with timers being an afterthought (similar to how they are in Eve).
IMHO, the passive income NEEDS to go too. PC should open up opportunities for active wealth generation (dust anomaly plexing or something along those lines) so that holding the land and being active with the land is what is important.
Make it so that the anomaly plexing can be interfered with (i.e. give us PvPvE). Give us a place where we need to go and be active that is OURS and benefits those who ACTIVELY utilize the resources at their disposal.
Passive is bad m'kay? Make it so that the people who want to reap the benefits of owning districts need to actually play to gain said benefits. If they don't want to PVE, then I guess they don't want reap that wealth.
Just my thoughts on the matter, things I was hoping for before PC was released and the reasons why I have thought it was broken from the start (just from an outsiders perspective). |
Cass Barr
Red Star.
EoN.
336
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Posted - 2013.06.21 14:00:00 -
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Yes PC is taking up a lot of Dev time, because it's the crux of Dust. Without it all the have is a subpart lobby shooter, a game they will fail at, as they've proven over and over.
Sure it's in a state where a lot of the playerbase isn't involved in it, because it has enough problems that they don't WANT to be involved; it's not that they're being crowded out.
Do you think those problems are going to fix themselves?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
386
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Posted - 2013.06.21 14:42:00 -
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Cass Barr wrote:
Yes PC is taking up a lot of Dev time, because it's the crux of Dust. Without it all the have is a subpart lobby shooter, a game they will fail at, as they've proven over and over.
Sure it's in a state where a lot of the playerbase isn't involved in it, because it has enough problems that they don't WANT to be involved; it's not that they're being crowded out.
Do you think those problems are going to fix themselves?
Nope, as a matter of fact, I think that the current brokenness will prevent PC from ever being a viable "thing".
As it stands now, it only exists for a small percentage of the playerbase who are masochists. As time drags on, these masochists will amass large amounts of passive wealth allowing them the wherewithal to close out any other participants once future PC regions are opened (hopefully not until after the other problems are fixed).
Not only will they be able to close out others from PC with said passively generated wealth, they will use it to "prove their manhood" by running around in pubs roflstomping anyone who doesn't want to field a full squad of protoscrubs. Oh, can't forget about the I'm-Fresh-Out-Of-Academy newbs who very well may just uninstall and forget the game if they get faceraped straight out of the gate.
Can't have a game without a playerbase.
In closing, Passive Wealth is bad, m'kay? |
Dustin TheTrash
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.22 04:26:00 -
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I made a video expressing the OP's Concerns
Please leave comment if you agree.
Thanks |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
2042
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Posted - 2013.06.22 05:16:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF1tw3Zcvo8 |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
189
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Posted - 2013.06.22 08:54:00 -
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At least change the video, it's always the same or seems the same every time i see it. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
679
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Posted - 2013.06.22 09:09:00 -
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The entire purpose of Dust is to get involved with the Eve universe. PC is the outlet in which you can do that most directly.
If most people aren't going to do that, than I am simply reinforced in my belief that most people are idiots. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
189
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Posted - 2013.06.22 09:36:00 -
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The mechanics are prohibitive that's why a lot of people do not play PC, nobody is against it, but tell me: how a little corp can afford to spend xx millions of Isk to attack a district?
They can't or if they can, after one day, they will lose the district again.
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Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe
Planetary Response Organisation
365
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Posted - 2013.06.22 09:45:00 -
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I would imagine that one of the things CCP is working on in PC is making it more accessible. Increasing battle size, for example, would mean there would be room for people other than the elite few in these corp vs corp battles. |
Greg FREESEr
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:13:00 -
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Untill we get accurate numbers tis whole thread is speculation. |
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Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
289
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:23:00 -
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I count 43 Corporations involved in PC. Assuming each corp has around 25 people that play PC (that's probably low TBH) That's around 1000 people playing PC. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
682
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:24:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:PC is nothing more than a vehicle for passive income for the "cool" kids.
The rest of us need to suffer through pubs (whether called FW or Instant Battles!!) where the very same cool kids come to play in their cool kid proto gear.
You sound like a whiny liberal.
Why don't you go out and take some territory instead of crying about feeling left out? |
LEOn Mendez
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.06.23 05:39:00 -
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I really think resources should go to core functions first |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3948
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Posted - 2013.06.23 05:45:00 -
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The problem here is that they're trying to forge a strong link out of tin foil....
The game mechanics need more oomph. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
297
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Posted - 2013.06.23 06:12:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:I count 43 Corporations involved in PC. Assuming each corp has around 25 people that play PC (that's probably low TBH) That's around 1000 people playing PC.
Did I just quote myself, why yes I did. Did I just talk in the third person?  Straight up nerd. |
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