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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.21 14:05:00 -
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Tharak Meuridiar wrote:I see three separate issues with logi vs. assault:
1. Logi is too good at killing which is assault's role. 2. The general logi / assault bonuses favor certain races too much. Assault bonus isn't good for armor tanks, logi isn't good for shield tanks (Unless they dual tank like most Caldari.) 3. Logi's intended role has lost a lot of usefulness. Most builds regenerate armor fairly efficiently on their own now. The days of beta where you were constantly running around repping people's armor damage that they couldn't regenerate themselves are gone. I run reps in a lot of my builds and barely use them because they are rarely needed.
I have 1 solution that solves ALL THREE problems quickly and simply:
Assault bonus: Light weapons do 4% more damage per level Logistics bonus: Armor repairers heal shields for 20% of their armor repair amount per level
Problem 1 Solved: Logi's trade their armor repair bonus for one that is useless if you are playing a logi like an assault. Assault on the other hand become much more deadly at their intended role.
Problem 2 Solved: All good assault fits use a light weapon. Snipers, AV, the AR toting masses, shotguns, you name it. All logi will find it useful to rep shields and armor at the same time.
Problem 3 Solved: Logi's can now effectively be active healers. When they run into a firefight they can recharge people's shields or run behind heavies allowing them to shrug off large amounts of damage. They can even run behind HAVs no matter which type of damage they tank. A logi can now effectively be a full time healer like a Team Fortress 2 medic minus the ub+½r.
You're assuming all logis are healers. Mine hasn't used a rep tool in maybe a month. The general logi bonus IMO should be the Gallente-specific one, and the Assault: the Caldari reload bonus, but for all light weapons.
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GVGMODE
GVGMODE.
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Posted - 2013.06.21 14:17:00 -
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Core GodModeFlaylock > Anything
The more I play with a logi the more I miss having a sidearm, you can literally wipe anybody shooting at their feet, the movement speed from assault is prime to dodge both are good specially with the broken aim system. The only thing I dislike is the Cpu and PG from Assault suit , it needs to be buffed. |
Seed Dren
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.21 14:24:00 -
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How about if you could pick your racial bonus? It would require balancing skill points again but I see better potential of ppl doing their intended roles. But also if your suggesting that assault gets a damage bonus then so should heavies and scout to be fair to everyone. (I'm Assault btw). |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.21 14:24:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote: Assaults:
1%/2% damage increase per level (stacking penalties apply with damage modifiers) Reduce EHP by 90 (Puts Assault base EHP at 15 EHP lower than a vanilla Logistic suit) Give all assault suits 1 extra High slot.
Logistics:
5% CPU/PG reduction per level Increase EHP by 60 (Puts Logistics at the vanilla Assault suit base EHP) Remove the Caldari logistic bonus and 1 high slot to give 1 equipment slot. Keep Logistics slot configuration as is.
Wait what?!? You want to decrease Assault toughness and increase Logi toughness to balance them? Your suggested changes would make Logis even more ridiculous compared to Assaults.
Well if you actually applied what I said you would notice that the difference in HP would be small, no more than 100 EHP. The assaults are getting a free ADV/Complex damage modifier and they are also 6% faster, AND I said to give them an extra High slot so you get the option to negate the HP difference.
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XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.21 14:26:00 -
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How about Logi bonus is 25% more healing with rep gun?
Oh wait hows that work if we aren't spec into it? It's fine as is today. |
Dustin TheTrash
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.22 04:25:00 -
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I made a video expressing the OP's Concerns
Please leave comment if you agree.
Thanks |
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