Yes, how dare customers expect service from a company, the sheer audacity of it is mind blowing

They service us plenty by providing us FREE MONTHLY UPDATES TO A FREE TO PLAY GAME. Nowheres does it say "CCP is obligated to give us a respec because we didn't have the patience to wait one week or because we messed up after the first one"

and as for you. know your place pion.

I find being locked into a single playstyle with literally no meaning behind that choice to be the most boring aspect of this game, hands down.

I just don't play. I don't see the point.

Forums are still amusing, and I'll troll around in pubs from time to time. That's about it.

Not entitled, I just don't care anymore.

Yes, how dare customers expect service from a company, the sheer audacity of it is mind blowing

They service us plenty by providing us FREE MONTHLY UPDATES TO A FREE TO PLAY GAME. Nowheres does it say "CCP is obligated to give us a respec because we didn't have the patience to wait one week or because we messed up after the first one"

and as for you. know your place pion.

Most developers would simply call that a patch but I do sort of agree and disagree.

I filed for my respect a month ago and still don't have it. Yeah I've been annoyed by it and asked why it's not happened yet but I don't think that makes me 'entitled' does it? I mean, I have sank a fair amount of cash into the game with merc packs and boosters and the like, so on some level I do sort of expect stuff to happen in a reasonable time frame.

Though I did do exactly what you said and went down heavys and HMGs and found it a blast. Even with STD suits I found my KD rocketing. Not sure what all the heavies complain about (I jest, don't maim me.)

Rather then feeling locked down why don't you play and side spec into something, thus opening up more avenues for you to play down? I mean.... did you feel locked down in militia/STD gear when you had zero SP??? Maybe..... But you didn't say "**** it ill go play another game" you said "ok ill work hard for the next week or two to unlock the stuff I want to play with"..... so why cant you do that again??? ive been doing since last July and I cant say im as uncaring as you seem to be right now.....

You dont read the announcements do you because that is essentially exactly what they said
Also its spelled "peon" get it right when you do your whole pedantic dickhead thing or it makes you look even more idiotic than you present yourself

Im still looking for this whole obligation they have for us..... Did they say we would get respec's yesterday?? Yeah they did, but that's completely separate from the "entitlement" object I posted above.

And as far as your concerned, a pion is a pion to me. You will remain a pion, and im sorry if you dislike the fact that your even less then a "peon" or whatever you wrote. Lol I wonder if your one of those people that harp on internet users in regards to their use of the words "than, and then". Based off your post it wouldn't surprise me much.

If I started this game today, I actually would say **** it and just go play something else.

I stuck it out because I'm a closed Beta vet.

Why would I side spec? I can't afford boosters, I have to be stingy as **** with every SP I get unless I want to not be competitive. Of course you can kill proto's in militia gear. Try that against a full squad of communicating proto's

There's a reason that serious corps won't allow you in PC without a fully fleshed out and focused build.

Game is boring. Period. There is virtually no persistence or meaning, specifically to the individual. We have to grasp at "metagame" in order to justify to ourselves that our decisions have any meaning outside of directly effecting how much we like or hate this game

Yes, how dare them promise to compensate us for their mistakes in designing the skill tree. We should all just accept investing your SP into skills that don't do as advertised or are bugged. Adapt or die!

I would tell you not to breed so you wont dilute the species gene pool but I get the feeling no woman would want to be with you willingly without money being involved

What mistakes? I never asked for a respec because the skill tree was flawlessly easy to use, and I got exactly what I wanted.

I got my re-spec so it doesn't affect me but ANYONE who invested SP into the Vehicle Tree DESERVED a re-spec because of MISLABELED skills.

Explain how a skill saying that it specifically does one thing in the description and then does something totally different *is absolutely useless as far as a tanker is concerned* and CCP saying ohhhh our bad the skill is working as intended we just messed up the description of the skill that has since before chrome did exactly as was stating in the *messed up description* but we are just going to change the description.

Explain how those that invested in that skill don't deserve a re-spec?

The logi suit, vehicle engineering, secondary weaponry skills that are pointless like fitting optimization for flaylock pistols and several skills that reduce CPU/PG cost not working either. There's more, but you get the idea.

where was it said that the optimization skills don't work?? And how could you view them as pointless? Those skills are incredibly handy if you have specific fits in mind (like I do). so yeah please explain.

Max Ammo Capacity (+5% Maximum Ammo Capacity per level) 3x (932,760 SP to max)

Forge Gun____________16_____+4_______20
Heavy Machine Gun____1500____+375____1875
Assault Rifle___________300____+75_____375
Laser Rifle____________500____+125_____625
Mass Driver___________18_____+4.5______22.5
Plasma Cannon________9______+2.25_____11.25
Scrambler Rifle________225_____+56.25___281.25
Shotgun______________32_____+8_______40
Sniper Rifle___________25______+6.25____31.25
Swarm Launcher_______6_______+1.5_____7.5
Flaylock Pistol_________21______+5.25____26.25
Scrambler Pistol_______42______+10.5_____52.5
Submachine Gun______480_____+120______600

Rapid Reload (+3% Reload Speed per level) 6x (1,865,520 SP to max) (requires Proficiency 2)

Forge Gun (not listed - please fix that)
Heavy Machine Gun________8s________-1.2_______6.8s
Assault Rifle______________3s________-0.45______2.55s
Laser Rifle_______________4s________-0.6________3.4s
Mass Driver______________4s________-0.6________3.4s
Plasma Cannon___________3.5s______-0.525______2.975s
Scrambler Rifle___________2.5s______-0.375_______2.125s
Shotgun_________________0.6s______-0.09_______0.51s
Sniper Rifle_______________4s_______-0.6________3.4s
Swarm Launcher__________4.5s______-0.675______3.825s
Flaylock Pistol____________2.5s______-0.375______2.125s
Scrambler Pistol___________2.5s_____-0.375_______2.125s
Submachine Gun__________3s_______-0.45________2.55s

Fitting Optimization (5% reduction to PG usage per level) 6x (1,865,520 SP to max) (requires Proficiency 4)

Forge Gun_____________19_____-4.75________14.25
Heavy Machine Gun_____10______-2.5_________7.5
Assault Rifle___________13______-3.25________9.75
Laser Rifle_____________10______-2.5________7.5
Mass Driver____________14______-3.5________10.5
Scrambler Rifle_________20______-5__________15
Shotgun_______________14______-3.5________10.5
Sniper Rifle____________15______-3.75_______11.25
Swarm Launcher________13______-3.25_______9.75
Flaylock Pistol___________2______-0.5________1.5
Scrambler Pistol_________8______-2__________6
Submachine Gun________10_____-2.5________7.5

where 1st value = base, 2nd value = modifier at rank 5, and 3rd value = base + modifier

where was it said that the optimization skills don't work?? And how could you view them as pointless? Those skills are incredibly handy if you have specific fits in mind (like I do). so yeah please explain.

PRO Core Flaylock needs 2 PG to fit.

SP cost versus effectiveness is insanely meager in almost all cases.

Most glaring example is Flaylock Pistol Fitting Optimisation. To bring it up to V is what, 1.2mil SP? Grants a 25% reduction in PG.

PRO Core Flaylock needs 2 PG to fit. Rounded with the reduction from Fitting V it becomes... 2 PG. That's over a million SP for a return of nothing at all.

Clearly a lot of thought and careful tailoring has gone into the secondary weapon skills.

It's not that they don't work, but they're not weapon specific. Look at how little you get compared to how much SP these skills cost.
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They service us plenty by providing us FREE MONTHLY UPDATES TO A FREE TO PLAY GAME. Nowheres does it say "CCP is obligated to give us a respec because we didn't have the patience to wait one week or because we messed up after the first one"

and as for you. know your place pion.

Back peddling

People are acting as if their entitled to a respec..... Lol, CCP is giving us a respec (seemingly through manual labor via direct name input which is very tedious) simply because a few people moaned about how they got cheated by the whole "I got a respec but because their releasing three guns in a week blah blah blah....."

CCP doesn't have to do this for us. And because of all the annoying crying people do about it they aren't likely to do it again. I still haven't got my respec. I have been waiting as long as you people for it. Weather it comes tomorrow or not doesn't matter to me because I know that EVENTUALLY I will get it.

So my finale message to you people is..... take this time to side spec into something you might think is interesting. That way you will have a better idea of what you want to spec into once you do actually..... get respecced. And hopefully that will encourage you to all stop whining about it.

That is all.