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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.21 01:39:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Yes, how dare customers expect service from a company, the sheer audacity of it is mind blowing
Yes, how dare them promise to compensate us for their mistakes in designing the skill tree. We should all just accept investing your SP into skills that don't do as advertised or are bugged. Adapt or die! |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
2000
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Posted - 2013.06.21 01:57:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Cosgar wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yes, how dare customers expect service from a company, the sheer audacity of it is mind blowing Yes, how dare them promise to compensate us for their mistakes in designing the skill tree. We should all just accept investing your SP into skills that don't do as advertised or are bugged. Adapt or die! What mistakes? I never asked for a respec because the skill tree was flawlessly easy to use, and I got exactly what I wanted.
The logi suit, vehicle engineering, secondary weaponry skills that are pointless like fitting optimization for flaylock pistols and several skills that reduce CPU/PG cost not working either. There's more, but you get the idea. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.21 02:13:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:
where was it said that the optimization skills don't work?? And how could you view them as pointless? Those skills are incredibly handy if you have specific fits in mind (like I do). so yeah please explain.
It's not that they don't work, but they're not weapon specific. Look at how little you get compared to how much SP these skills cost.
Zeylon Rho wrote:
Max Ammo Capacity (+5% Maximum Ammo Capacity per level) 3x (932,760 SP to max)
Forge Gun____________16_____+4_______20
Heavy Machine Gun____1500____+375____1875
Assault Rifle___________300____+75_____375
Laser Rifle____________500____+125_____625
Mass Driver___________18_____+4.5______22.5
Plasma Cannon________9______+2.25_____11.25
Scrambler Rifle________225_____+56.25___281.25
Shotgun______________32_____+8_______40
Sniper Rifle___________25______+6.25____31.25
Swarm Launcher_______6_______+1.5_____7.5
Flaylock Pistol_________21______+5.25____26.25
Scrambler Pistol_______42______+10.5_____52.5
Submachine Gun______480_____+120______600
Rapid Reload (+3% Reload Speed per level) 6x (1,865,520 SP to max) (requires Proficiency 2)
Forge Gun (not listed - please fix that)
Heavy Machine Gun________8s________-1.2_______6.8s
Assault Rifle______________3s________-0.45______2.55s
Laser Rifle_______________4s________-0.6________3.4s
Mass Driver______________4s________-0.6________3.4s
Plasma Cannon___________3.5s______-0.525______2.975s
Scrambler Rifle___________2.5s______-0.375_______2.125s
Shotgun_________________0.6s______-0.09_______0.51s
Sniper Rifle_______________4s_______-0.6________3.4s
Swarm Launcher__________4.5s______-0.675______3.825s
Flaylock Pistol____________2.5s______-0.375______2.125s
Scrambler Pistol___________2.5s_____-0.375_______2.125s
Submachine Gun__________3s_______-0.45________2.55s
Fitting Optimization (5% reduction to PG usage per level) 6x (1,865,520 SP to max) (requires Proficiency 4)
Forge Gun_____________19_____-4.75________14.25
Heavy Machine Gun_____10______-2.5_________7.5
Assault Rifle___________13______-3.25________9.75
Laser Rifle_____________10______-2.5________7.5
Mass Driver____________14______-3.5________10.5
Scrambler Rifle_________20______-5__________15
Shotgun_______________14______-3.5________10.5
Sniper Rifle____________15______-3.75_______11.25
Swarm Launcher________13______-3.25_______9.75
Flaylock Pistol___________2______-0.5________1.5
Scrambler Pistol_________8______-2__________6
Submachine Gun________10_____-2.5________7.5
where 1st value = base, 2nd value = modifier at rank 5, and 3rd value = base + modifier
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
2000
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Posted - 2013.06.21 02:20:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:
SP cost versus effectiveness is insanely meager in almost all cases.
Most glaring example is Flaylock Pistol Fitting Optimisation. To bring it up to V is what, 1.2mil SP? Grants a 25% reduction in PG.
PRO Core Flaylock needs 2 PG to fit. Rounded with the reduction from Fitting V it becomes... 2 PG. That's over a million SP for a return of nothing at all.
Clearly a lot of thought and careful tailoring has gone into the secondary weapon skills.
Just to put things into perspective, you can get into a tank faster than you can cap your reload speed. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
2000
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Posted - 2013.06.21 02:26:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Back peddling
Yeah, I'm glad you see my point. An SP sink is an SP sink, no matter how you look at it. |
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