You know I see all this bitching about contact grenades but Ive only been killed by them once and even then I was able to kill the thrower before the grenade hit the ground next to me

CCP must do a better job rewarding player skill. still too many weapons that have splash damage close to full damage. give players an incentive to hit the target rather than shooting at their feet.

I don't understand how the flaylock is a noob tube, the weapon has drawbacks that even the playing field with it and it doesn't even become a great weapon until you reach proto with it, the std and adv flaylocks are pretty garbage honestly.

is that they take us back to the time when all grenades had 2 second fuses. Remember how fun that was? not!!!! Every skilless noob with an R1 button racked up kills because of a cheap mechanic, and a supposedly hardcore shooter turned into a First Person Nader.

Now its only the guys with high SP and proto nades who get to be part of the easy OHK Club. You cant possibly think that was a good idea CCP. All easy use weaopns should be wound rather than kill. How those nades do more than 200 damage is beyond me. Murder Taxis, Flaylocks and all the other noob tubes are killing this game.

Meh, I still prefer the Core Locus nades.

I only get killed for fused nades two or three times, so i can not say nothing about it.

But about Flaylock...the only thing i can say is: Why it is better than my beloved MassDriver? T.T

You have no idea how difficult it is to actually hit a target with the Flaylocks missile travel time. If it had half the damage for splash damage, then it would be difficult to kill anyone (that isn't a scout) and impossible to kill just one heavy with two CORE Flaylocks, without masterful headshot aiming skills.

That's correct. The Flaylock requires headshots for it to do 100% effectiveness. Hitting anywhere else reduces damage percentage.

That's with the top tier Flaylock. Imagine with the lesser ones. It would make the weapon usless.

Go ahead to try it for your self. Try NOT shoot at feet and see how well you do.

The Flaylock is NOT OP.

I'm just killing too many people with it. (^_^)

Anyone using contact nades or a flaylock is a nub.
What you need to do is carry dual flaylocks with contact nades on a miny assult suit with a 12 % speed mod. Yea its kinda broken in cqb.

CCP is actually watching the logs for kills made with contacts nades before considering an adjustment? It's a good thing they are watching these nades but it also sounds like they are going to ignore the arguments against these contact grenades for the moment?

Should we just bring out the contact nades exclusively for a day to make a point?

CCP must do a better job rewarding player skill. still too many weapons that have splash damage close to full damage. give players an incentive to hit the target rather than shooting at their feet.

Anyone using contact nades or a flaylock is a nub.
What you need to do is carry dual flaylocks with contact nades on a miny assult suit with a 12 % speed mod. Yea its kinda broken in cqb.

Man, you're my mentor

The flylocks are fun to use, but they are OP. The splash dmg is almost the same as direct dmg... how the hell is that balanced?

this basically. splash as a whole has to be lowered significantly.

theres no incentive to have good aim.

This **** shouldn't even be in the game, far less as strong as it is now. It baffles me the amount of people that complained about it in closed beta YET CCP brought them back??!!! Really?

Just shows that CCP listened to nothing in the closed beta. Uprising was a perfect example of that. Chromosome, people had some complaints, but the game was fun. Uprising? A **** storm of complaints from day one. But hey, let's add in scrub nades, and gaylock pistols. GG

The flylocks are fun to use, but they are OP. The splash dmg is almost the same as direct dmg... how the hell is that balanced?

Also they use next to nothing PG / CPU wise... people basically have a better Mass Driver for a fraction of the cost... lol

I still like the old idea of having to switch to grenades instead of having a button for them

I still like the old idea of having to switch to grenades instead of having a button for them

Which could also solve other problems at the same time.

L2 swaps between nades and equipment and R2 swaps between weapons. This way you don't have to use the wheel.

this basically. splash as a whole has to be lowered significantly.

theres no incentive to have good aim.

I would accept this concept as soon as CCP removes all hitscan weapons, and slows the projective speed of all ARs to that of a MD, or Flaylock.

Hitscan weapons, like the AR, are the easiest weapons to use in the game. Period. The only weapon outright easier to kill with than the AR is the HMG.