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Chinduko
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:58:00 -
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It would be more fun if it were more like Planetside 2. The PS3 may have severe limitations but the PS3 game, MAG, had 256 players in one of their game modes meaning the PS3 is still capable of something bigger than Dust. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:01:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:1. Your in a zerg corp therefore you have no right to whine about blog warfare. Zerging is a tactic, but in Dust, it's not the only tactic. There's ways to counter it of course, but whining on the forums isn't one of them. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
379
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:05:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:You couldn't do PS2 on the PS3. The tech is too limiting - that's why they're waiting for the PS4 before porting over.
True...but they can do BF3 on a PS3.
No reason why we can't have fighter planes, guns with ranges over 50 meters, trees, water, bigger maps ect. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
971
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:08:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote: Last Friday night I in a 1000+ man attack. with over 5 major air platoons present.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Sorry, sorry! I tried not to, I swear!
But seriously, this line made me chuckle. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1947
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:18:00 -
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Planetside 2 maps, facilities, vehicles, spawn system, VR room. shooting mechanics (strafe speed, recoil, ranges, swap speed, etc) with DUST fitting system (resources lost on death, battlefield salvage, very nuanced options) would be everything I could have hoped for with DUST 514.
The only imbalance that really hurts in PS2 at is you need to unlock a competent AA fit which can take about a week. And merging 3 servers into one makes a lot of sense when you got 3 times the land per server with the introduction on new continents, and a 4th one coming soon. But I can jump in day 1 and have fun is PS2 and not feel noncompetitive until I've grinded for 6-9 months (assuming you didn't mispend in useless skills, making it even longer!) but there is still stuff to work towards. To say they lack diversity of weapons is stupid. They have more real variants then DUST does even including the tiers (standard, advanced, proto).
Oh, and don't forget PS2 http://www.planetside2.com/roadmap Roadmap program.
DUST has an "endgame" but getting to that point and even the endgame content itself is tortuously unsatisfying. PS2 lacks endgame entirely, but the foundation is rock solid with a few nagging cracks that they tell the community they are actually working on and when to expect fixes, and they are working on creating an "endgame" for PS2. I love the risk reward idea of DUST, but execution is so sloppy it is nothing but tedium unless you happen to roll correctly on FotM. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3862
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:36:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:We have a persistent world already
That's cute.
Can I see it now?
I'd like to go wander around an area that stays the same each time I visit. I want to impact the local area in some meaningful way, even for just a little bit. I'd like to go pick up a job somewhere and actually GO there, and every time I decide to get a job there, it's the same place. I want to start up a new character and go visit a major player hub.
I want to play an MMOFPS, not an FPSRPG. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
381
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:39:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:We have a persistent world already That's cute. Can I see it now?
The star map...i guess.
Plus the maps all have the same hills and crap no matter what world you are on....district geography is persistent across the New Edan Galaxy. |
Raizor Feddie
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
90
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:49:00 -
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Because Planetside 2 is an actual GOOD game, and CCP doesn't like the idea of making a good game. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1969
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:53:00 -
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Raizor Feddie wrote:Because Planetside 2 is an actual GOOD game, and CCP doesn't like the idea of making a good game. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH You're funny. |
Raizor Feddie
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
90
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:55:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Raizor Feddie wrote:Because Planetside 2 is an actual GOOD game, and CCP doesn't like the idea of making a good game. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH You're funny.
It's good to know the truth can be funny, fanboy. |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1969
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Posted - 2013.06.17 19:01:00 -
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Raizor Feddie wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Raizor Feddie wrote:Because Planetside 2 is an actual GOOD game, and CCP doesn't like the idea of making a good game. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH You're funny. It's good to know the truth can be funny, fanboy. Because the fact that I've stated clearly and concisely the issues I have with this game makes me a fanboy of it.
I was a fanboy of Planetside 2. I even got in for the Tech Test. I used to talk to my friends about it back when they lifted the NDA, hoping they would join me.
Then I watched SOE launch the Closed Beta build with no fixes and proceed to nerf all the starter gear to force you to pay $7 per gun to avoid having to grind for a week or more just to get ONE gun, and then ignore every feature to make it feel like you were actually doing something in the game in favor of things like the Instanced Battle Islands for ******* MLG that just launched in the last patch.
Functioning warpgates, the ability to push a faction off a continent, the new swamp continent, new base designs, even the concept of player owned and operated bases.
All of those have been set to "unscheduled" on the great "Planetside 2 Roadmap" in favor of MLG support and more cosmetic assets, most of which are $5 each or more.
See anything "good" in there? |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1642
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Posted - 2013.06.17 19:04:00 -
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To be honest, this is the only good comparison I've seen to planetside 2- screw matchmaking |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1948
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Posted - 2013.06.17 19:24:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:See anything "good" in there?
Top features by month
- June - Community Grief Reporting
- July - Implants
- August - Player Generated Missions
- September - New Continent: Hossin
- October - Re-certification Item
- November - Continent Locking
- December - Class Update Engineer
That's a lot of good features, clearly laid out when they expect them to be worked on. Hey look at November! It's that continent lock that was so important to you. Maybe your favorite feature is delayed, but the fact remains they are consistently providing new content, iterating to improve the balance, and while you deride them for catering to the e-sports players, that's actually a huge positive because it adds more ways to play the game.
Features added since launch that I noticed immediately
- New continents
- VR training room
- New vehicle classes
- Lattice System
- Some downright fantastic cosmetic options.
- Global Missions (alerts)
- Test server
Yeah... PS2 is clearly dropping the ball |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
199
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Posted - 2013.06.17 19:32:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:We need to get as far away from PS2 as possible. No weapon diversity, months of cert grinding, blob tactics taking precedent over everything... need I say more?
This PS2 only has numbers going for it, and even that makes he servers woefully unstable. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1948
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Posted - 2013.06.17 19:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cosgar wrote:We need to get as far away from PS2 as possible. No weapon diversity, months of cert grinding, blob tactics taking precedent over everything... need I say more? This PS2 only has numbers going for it, and even that makes he servers woefully unstable.
Compared to what? Certainly not compared to DUST. |
ReGnYuM
Not another AR SCRUB
216
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Posted - 2013.06.17 20:44:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:ReGnYuM wrote: Last Friday night I in a 1000+ man attack. with over 5 major air platoons present.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Sorry, sorry! I tried not to, I swear! But seriously, this line made me chuckle.
sorry typed that one from my phone... meh
Anyways, my PS2 clan leader and many others organised a huge offensive last friday. Like I said five of the top air platoons showed up and a number of ground forces and vehicle units. It was epic when the other sides started rallying their forces |
ReGnYuM
Not another AR SCRUB
216
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Posted - 2013.06.17 20:50:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:1. Your in a zerg corp therefore you have no right to whine about blog warfare. Zerging is a tactic, but in Dust, it's not the only tactic. There's ways to counter it of course, but whining on the forums isn't one of them.
Just stop posting |
Travis Snyders
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:23:00 -
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Dust has more ambition than planetside 2 |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1975
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:25:00 -
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Travis Snyders wrote:Dust has more ambition than planetside 2 And a shitload more potential.
SOE's "long term roadmap" is probably not even going to reach its third year.
EVE started out almost as shaky as Dust and is now the only MMO in history to have increased in player count every single year for as long as it's been running. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
605
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:28:00 -
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persistent maps? WTF but battle timers are sooo much fun |
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xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
355
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:30:00 -
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with the PS4 SOE is turning PS2 into a console based shooter.
The PS2 has the full support of the MAG community and will serve as the spiritual successor.
It's going to be great to see the MAG community back on a game that has actual scale. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:32:00 -
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Why wish planet side ? its has way more cancer then Dust,. do people even play it before posting.. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1977
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:35:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:with the PS4 SOE is turning PS2 into a console based shooter.
The PS2 has the full support of the MAG community and will serve as the spiritual successor.
It's going to be great to see the MAG community back on a game that has actual scale. Oh wow, I can't wait to see all of you on the Planetside 2 forums when you get the rude awakening that's coming to you.
I don't mean to stir a pot that's not even cooking yet, but isn't it odd how they haven't mentioned whether or not the PS4 client will have its own dedicated servers or not?
Also consider that there have been three server merges since release, and you can still barely get a full continent unless there's an Alert for it, at which point the lag makes the entire continent unplayable. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
605
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:38:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Plantside has and always will have the worse communty ever :-) you think nerf threads here are bad go back to the original planetside fourms. Ware a biohazard suit when u do I just joined and saw an instantly more mature community which functions well. Not seen a single nerf/complaint on the forums so far... that's PC for you.. here we're stuck with 8 year olds on their second FPS |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
370
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:41:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:I previously thought it was near impossible to mobilise an MMO-FPS, but after playing PS2... why isn't this game more like it? Dust 514 as a PS2-like game only with the Amarr/Caldari vs Gallente/Minmatar, combined with lore and more solid and fictional foundations would make PS2 look like a kid's game... But instead you, CCP, have to adopt this 'matchmaking' thing. I advise you to make a constant world and base it on conquering systems, and simplifying the engine and sorting out the broken aspects... So, you know the entire game isn't based around matchmaking, right? Also, Planetside 2 is terrible. They made 2000 players per continent their entire focus and delivered NO content to make people even want to fight. The game has had 3 server merges since launch and still can't pop-cap a server even on the weekends. All "higher-level" features such as functioning warp-gates, additional continents, additional bases, and the ability to actually push a faction off of a continent via warpgate capturing have all been set to "unscheduled" on the Planetside 2 Roadmap some of those Dust Doomsayers have been saying is the greatest thing ever. But those things pale in importance to the Instanced Battle Islands for MLG support that came in the last game update. I realize I'm going on a bit, but you shouldn't ever use an SOE game as an example of how to do [i]anything/i] right. There are two rules of Sony Online Entertainment:
- They are incapable of making good games
- On the rare occasion that they do make a good (Star Wars Galaxies) or even semi-playable (Planetside) game, they will always destroy it with a completely unneeded content update (New Game Experience for SWG; Battle Frame Robotics for Planetside).
I use to love SWG before they turned it to shit |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1977
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:43:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Plantside has and always will have the worse communty ever :-) you think nerf threads here are bad go back to the original planetside fourms. Ware a biohazard suit when u do I just joined and saw an instantly more mature community which functions well. Not seen a single nerf/complaint on the forums so far... that's PC for you.. here we're stuck with 8 year olds on their second FPS YOu realize they have sections that they vigorously patrol to keep complaints in them, right. You should have been on the forums a few weeks back when they introduced the Zealot Overdrive Engine to the Vanu MAX suits and we were all drowning in a sea of super-speed lobster-suits. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
605
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:43:00 -
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SWG, the 7 year alpha. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
605
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:46:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Plantside has and always will have the worse communty ever :-) you think nerf threads here are bad go back to the original planetside fourms. Ware a biohazard suit when u do I just joined and saw an instantly more mature community which functions well. Not seen a single nerf/complaint on the forums so far... that's PC for you.. here we're stuck with 8 year olds on their second FPS YOu realize they have sections that they vigorously patrol to keep complaints in them, right. You should have been on the forums a few weeks back when they introduced the Zealot Overdrive Engine to the Vanu MAX suits and we were all drowning in a sea of super-speed lobster-suits. So basically a BFR from PS1 but only smaller. |
Travis Snyders
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.06.18 00:24:00 -
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I created a video of my concerns |
FoxFour FailedPC
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.18 01:03:00 -
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Planetside 2 free on PS4 this year |
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