I have to say, compared to the Eve community, this community is terrible. Not because it cant be civil or come to a cohesive agreement on anything but because it CHOOSES not to.

80% of the trolls are just carried players with no talent. There is no point in trying to bring up intelligent points anymore. They just get ignored anyway or troll food that brings them stomping in.

Yup, at least on these boards the community is pretty horrible compared to EVE. Tons of really childish "omgomgomgom DUSTFAIIIIIIL" posts instead of constructive criticism. Maybe it's due to it being a console game, but reading a lot of threads I can't help to feel like walking into a kindergarden sometimes.

The game is a launch product, and it deserves the terrible reviews and criticism. It's barely serviceable as a game.

When the developers do this bad of a job, what are we going to be able to say on the forums to help them fix it?

There's no real talent to exploit in this game anymore, it's all SP and shooting first. Strafing was reduced to quicksand levels so bad players don't feel bad about themselves for not being able to simultaneously move, aim, and shoot.

Everyone is being carried by their gear and the bad controls.

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I'm gonna have to agree with the OP over here.

The level of trolling in the Dust forums is unprecedented whenever CCP posts anything at all. People here would demand a dev blog and get some information, but then as soon as they do get a dev blog they start ignoring it saying that want action rather than words. But then as soon as action is done, people start saying that the action was unnecessary.

Cases in Point:
1. Heavies were believed to be OP. Community complained it wanting a nerf. Heavies got nerfed but the community didn't like the nerf. WTF?

2. Same thing with lazors.

3. Same thing with Tactical Asaault Rifles.

4. Now we have some ignorant moron who wants shotguns nerfed just because he wants them nerfed and doesn't care about the opinions of others.

I hope to ******* father in heaven that no one suggests nerfing the knives because they were too lazy to check their six every now and then. Then there is the whole optional-respec debate. And finally there is the whole CCP-no-show-at-E3 complaints when CCP made almost no announcement of what they were planning to do at E3. Finally, to top off the list of why this community is becoming indecisive, we have people who are not sure whether we should have an weekly SP cap or not.

I feel sorry for CCP at the moment. They have to put up with this level of BS for no reason.

Don't get me wrong here. I criticize CCP often but not to the level of hate mongering and posting endless threads of how Dust will collapse. But let's say for the sake of this argument that Dust does collapse. It will not be because of CCP. It will be because of the indecision of the community and the endless bickering amongst each other.

Sorry that you were expecting Call of Duty. Your tears are delicious.

CCP puts out a build full of sweeping changes that none of us wanted or asked for while breaking things by trying to fix what's not broken and you wonder why everyone is upset?

With allowing this game to spiral out of control..? I have to say, compared to the Eve community, this community is terrible. Not because it cant be civil or come to a cohesive agreement on anything but because it CHOOSES not to. There seem to be two kinds of players in this community and its the thinkers and the trollers. The thinkers explain their standpoint and provide evidence supporting their claim and the trollers respond with 'stop QQing and HTFU'.

Theres no constructive disagreement, theres no logical standpoints with which to consider another way of looking atthings, its just primitive grunts and echos of vague, offputting banter designed to destroy any semblance of a legitimate debate of ideals.

When a game like Warframe, stupid and simple as it may be with its lack of any competitive game modes, can achieve more civility and rational reasoning skills than the Dust 514 forums - I get disheartened. This game is only getting worse and lately im hard pressed to believe its the developers fault anymore because I know -for a ******* fact- theres going to be a stupid, unimaginative and uneducated troll comment SOMEWHERE in the following replies.

Yanno, its no wonder CCP decided to do away with transparency and stopped being communicative in what theyre working on when half of us cant even come to an agreement on something so stupid as whether or not Militia LAVs are too hard to kill. All the doomsayers, all the argumentative assholes who have nothing of value to say - just drooling out rambunctious jargon at the drop of a hat - its no wonder the Eve Online community cant take Dust 514 seriously and its nowonder the majority of Eve players want nothing to do with it.

Its a design that was good on paper and so far has just absolutely flopped - not because of the developers or the CPM or lack of funding/marketing etc... It flopped because 16 year old Johnny Nobody had access to the forums and couldnt come up with something better than a series of accronyms to convey his disapproval.

What exactly are you crying about Aeon?

Ccp are horrible at making a fps, many people find tnoo be entertaining.

You blame the community for unbalanced weapons....... i thought ccp were in charge?

Lol@people who still think dust will be anything other than irrelevant to the 99%.

Hardly, you misconstrue the message.

CCP arent the only ones at fault. The community proposes changes and the developers respond, after one year of Beta testing Ive seen this game get progressively worse and it surely wasnt because the developers intended for the game to be terrible. Hell, at one point Swarm Launchers were dumbfire and would have been great in concept saVe for the fact people were launching them at tyeir feet to get instant kills. Community says it needs to go, and now they lock on only to vehicles.

So whos at fault there? The devs for implementing a system they think is a better alternative, or the community for abusing it in its original conception?

And thatgoes for everything. A player in another thread says that if MCC AFKing is removed, the game will collapse because everyone will leave. Whos fault is that, exactly? The devs for trying to fix an obvious exploit or the community for being douchebags?

And then there's those stuck in the middle...

I don't find it a pleasant position to inhabit.

The irony in all of the comments stating im a fanboy is overflowing.

Iswear its like half of you have never read my posts absolutely condemning CCP over their poor execution and lack of action. Interestingly enough, the fact the community refuses to accept responsibility for proposing a variety of nerfs/buffs and receiving them, then - in pure childish demeanor - actually blames thedevelopers?

Yes, theyre at fault - but so are you.

You make it seem that all that community does is asking for nerfs and buffs to individual things. More often ppl are asking for reasonable stuff like: improve aiming, stop MCC AFKing, fix sticky terrain, add maps, add market, add a system where mercs actually are hired by EvE players to fight battles in EVE and not some parallel universe that has no bearing on the other game. I think you distort facts. If I understood your point, you are saying that the game sux because that's what the community requested in one way or another through QQ threads.

Hardly, you misconstrue the message.

CCP arent the only ones at fault. The community proposes changes and the developers respond, after one year of Beta testing Ive seen this game get progressively worse and it surely wasnt because the developers intended for the game to be terrible. Hell, at one point Swarm Launchers were dumbfire and would have been great in concept saVe for the fact people were launching them at tyeir feet to get instant kills. Community says it needs to go, and now they lock on only to vehicles.

So whos at fault there? The devs for implementing a system they think is a better alternative, or the community for abusing it in its original conception?

And thatgoes for everything. A player in another thread says that if MCC AFKing is removed, the game will collapse because everyone will leave. Whos fault is that, exactly? The devs for trying to fix an obvious exploit or the community for being douchebags?

Everything you mentioned there is 100% CCP's fault.