It's the forums.

I've been a long time browser of the forums here. After a while of this I've seen a trend. Practically everyone here complains constantly, and bashes CCP, or just trolls. This is ridiculous. So here's my take.

First, I have several characters I have played a lot. I've been a Medic/Logi, assault, shotgun scout, laser rifle, tanker, dropship pilot, and sniper. I have rarely experienced one tenth of the stuff being constantly whined about on here. So I've compiled a small list of answers to the commonly complained about issues:

1. Lag; Maybe you should check your internet connection and placement of your PS3. This isn't a small game and small maps there's a lot to be digested.

2. Hit detection; Haven't had a problem since Uprising. Maybe you really just need to aim a bit better. This isn't Call of Duty the sticky aiming isn't going to save your life.

3. The Shotgun debacle; see answer two.

4. PC being broken; Personally never done PC so I wouldn't know, but reading all the constant whining here's my thing:
- Timezones; Understand that can be frustrating to other countries.
- No one sees a need for it in EvE. I haven't particularly looked at EvE itself with planetary involvement, since I'm not in the bigger alliances that most of the teams seem to be connected to, so I can't see if it really is having the effect that CCP intended. As long as it's working as planned, then yes it has an impact. So if you say it doesn't or EvE isn't taking it serious enough, here's what I propose you do; start a corporation of all the people complaining on Dust forums about it and start taking the districts with ZERO tie to EvE. If it starts impacting EvE players wallets they'll start taking you serious.

5. Comparing Dust 514 to any other shooter is pointless and immediately makes your argument moot. Dust 514 isn't another shooter it's not Call of Duty, it's not Battlefield, it's not Planetside 2. I'm sorry if that's what you expected.

6. Complaining about stuff taking to long to patch or fix. When did the game ACTUALLY go live? Everything before that was just beta. Expecting stuff to be fixed immediately after we JUST came out of Beta is kind of asinine.

7. Skill respec. Okay, CCP reset your character. You went crazy changed some stuff, wanted something different, didn't want to wait on the new patch to come out and you spent your skill points. Now, CCP says they'll hook you up, they're giving you a free respec. I, say to this, here's your coloring book, shut up and color. They'll get to it when they get to it. Fill out your Ticket and be done with the whining. I've seen several posts by Devs saying there was some characters that fell through the cracks, understandable. Re-submit a ticket and wait.

8. Get off the DEV's back. This is their job, they're doing something no other game has, not to mention this is CCP's first foray into an FPS. There's going to be bumps in the road. It's fine, they're working on it. A little common courtesy and respect will get you a long way. If you have a problem relay it to them, don't immediately jump on the forums and blast out "DUST IS DEAD!" or "OHMAHGAWD FPS IS BROKEN!" or "THIS GAME SUCKS!" If I was a CCP reading these forums day after day listening to all the negativity and complaining, I wouldn't help a single one of you.

Anyway, off of my soap box now.

TL;DR: "Forums, come on, Less QQ; more Pew Pew."

Yours in Christ,
Jay Westen.

(edit: Fixed bullets.)

there are alot of people that still didn't get there respec still

there are alot of people that still didn't get there respec still

Looks like somebody got their respec already

Sorry, the frame rate is god awful quite often. My internet connection is fine (if irrelevant) and the PS3 is well ventilated, it even has the external fans add on.

Sorry, the frame rate is god awful quite often. My internet connection is fine (if irrelevant) and the PS3 is well ventilated, it even has the external fans add on.

I don't go around making threads about it, cause I'm pretty sure they're well aware of it. But don't make excuses for it.

It's strange though, that some of us don't have any lag. I can recommend vacuuming the ps3, or something like it. I did that to my laptop, and it stopped crashing when playing games.

It's strange though, that some of us don't have any lag. I can recommend vacuuming the ps3, or something like it. I did that to my laptop, and it stopped crashing when playing games.

In general, you'll see a lot more negative feedback than positive, because people for whom everything works fine for don't go out of their way to say "Hey, this game is working fine for me, just thought I'd let you know." If you read the forums, you'd think the game was a laggy, buggy mess, but as far as I can tell, it works fine. I've gotten the disconnected from PSN error exactly once in the 3 weeks I've been actively playing the game and haven't had any issues with lag at all. Even the freezes on the loading screen only seem to happen once or twice every couple of nights, and while I'd like that to be fixed ASAP, it's not something I care about enough to complain about on the forums to anyone who'll listen.

I find that it's exceedingly rare to make it through a single match without at least one squad member having some sort of game breaking problem arise.

I find that it's exceedingly rare to make it through a single match without at least one squad member having some sort of game breaking problem arise.

But exactly what you mean for "lag"? "Lag" it's not only when ppl teleport: for example "lag" is when you shoot at someone and he gets no damage/gets damage after a determined amount of time. "Lag" is textures not updating. If you haven't seen any of these things, then yes, you're lucky. You might have a really strong connection or you might not have played enough. Mind you that not everyone can have a 100Mbps connection...
and anyway, yes. This game sometimes lag. Eu vs Us or Us vs Asia etc will always lag.

Also I only run 10 mbit/s, 10th of what you assumed :p

Ant that's entirely possible. It's also possible that the problem is on their end rather than an issue with the game. I generally only squad up with a handful of IRL friends, and for the most part, we can play for several hours straight with no major issues. Occasionally one or more of us will get the loading screen bug, but that's it. Aside from the guy who's on garbage internet and can't even stay connected on Skype.

I feel dirty now having read that. Christians so arrogant.

Yours in atheism,
Son-Of A-Gun.

I'm a director for one of the largest corps in the game, I play with A LOT of different people. It's not individual players connections that are the issue, and CCP themselves have agreed.

Could be both. I find it unlikely that an issue that some people encounter seemingly all the time, while others rarely encounter it, if at all, isn't due. at least in part, to something on the user's end, whether poor internet, the model of their PS3, the number of chat channels they have open, or something else. It seems likely that it's something the user has some degree of control over, otherwise, it's something that should be affecting everyone consistently, instead of only 2/3 of the playerbase.

It's the forums.

I've been a long time browser of the forums here. After a while of this I've seen a trend. Practically everyone here complains constantly, and bashes CCP, or just trolls. This is ridiculous. So here's my take.

First, I have several characters I have played a lot. I've been a Medic/Logi, assault, shotgun scout, laser rifle, tanker, dropship pilot, and sniper. I have rarely experienced one tenth of the stuff being constantly whined about on here. So I've compiled a small list of answers to the commonly complained about issues:

1. Lag; Maybe you should check your internet connection and placement of your PS3. This isn't a small game and small maps there's a lot to be digested.

2. Hit detection; Haven't had a problem since Uprising. Maybe you really just need to aim a bit better. This isn't Call of Duty the sticky aiming isn't going to save your life.

3. The Shotgun debacle; see answer two.

4. PC being broken; Personally never done PC so I wouldn't know, but reading all the constant whining here's my thing:
- Timezones; Understand that can be frustrating to other countries.
- No one sees a need for it in EvE. I haven't particularly looked at EvE itself with planetary involvement, since I'm not in the bigger alliances that most of the teams seem to be connected to, so I can't see if it really is having the effect that CCP intended. As long as it's working as planned, then yes it has an impact. So if you say it doesn't or EvE isn't taking it serious enough, here's what I propose you do; start a corporation of all the people complaining on Dust forums about it and start taking the districts with ZERO tie to EvE. If it starts impacting EvE players wallets they'll start taking you serious.

5. Comparing Dust 514 to any other shooter is pointless and immediately makes your argument moot. Dust 514 isn't another shooter it's not Call of Duty, it's not Battlefield, it's not Planetside 2. I'm sorry if that's what you expected.

6. Complaining about stuff taking to long to patch or fix. When did the game ACTUALLY go live? Everything before that was just beta. Expecting stuff to be fixed immediately after we JUST came out of Beta is kind of asinine.

7. Skill respec. Okay, CCP reset your character. You went crazy changed some stuff, wanted something different, didn't want to wait on the new patch to come out and you spent your skill points. Now, CCP says they'll hook you up, they're giving you a free respec. I, say to this, here's your coloring book, shut up and color. They'll get to it when they get to it. Fill out your Ticket and be done with the whining. I've seen several posts by Devs saying there was some characters that fell through the cracks, understandable. Re-submit a ticket and wait.

8. Get off the DEV's back. This is their job, they're doing something no other game has, not to mention this is CCP's first foray into an FPS. There's going to be bumps in the road. It's fine, they're working on it. A little common courtesy and respect will get you a long way. If you have a problem relay it to them, don't immediately jump on the forums and blast out "DUST IS DEAD!" or "OHMAHGAWD FPS IS BROKEN!" or "THIS GAME SUCKS!" If I was a CCP reading these forums day after day listening to all the negativity and complaining, I wouldn't help a single one of you.

Anyway, off of my soap box now.

TL;DR: "Forums, come on, Less QQ; more Pew Pew."

Yours in Christ,
Jay Westen.

(edit: Fixed bullets.)

Why can't we compare Dust to other games? Seems a bit bias to declare this game as 'different'. Same excuse people give to avoid comparing COD and BF.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Complaining about people complaining on FPS gaming forums.

Jay Westen general discussion is my forum turf, and I would be damned if I ever LET IT change.

5. Comparing Dust 514 to any other shooter is pointless and immediately makes your argument moot. Dust 514 isn't another shooter it's not Call of Duty, it's not Battlefield, it's not Planetside 2. I'm sorry if that's what you expected.

But exactly what you mean for "lag"? "Lag" it's not only when ppl teleport: for example "lag" is when you shoot at someone and he gets no damage/gets damage after a determined amount of time. "Lag" is textures not updating. If you haven't seen any of these things, then yes, you're lucky. You might have a really strong connection or you might not have played enough. Mind you that not everyone can have a 100Mbps connection...
and anyway, yes. This game sometimes lag. Eu vs Us or Us vs Asia etc will always lag.

general discussion is my forum turf

5. Comparing Dust 514 to any other shooter is pointless and immediately makes your argument moot. Dust 514 isn't another shooter it's not Call of Duty, it's not Battlefield, it's not Planetside 2. I'm sorry if that's what you expected.

I routinely go several matches in squads without anyone having issues. It does happen, but not consistently.

Sorry, the frame rate is god awful quite often. My internet connection is fine (if irrelevant) and the PS3 is well ventilated, it even has the external fans add on.

I don't go around making threads about it, cause I'm pretty sure they're well aware of it. But don't make excuses for it.

I find that it's exceedingly rare to make it through a single match without at least one squad member having some sort of game breaking problem arise.

4. PC being broken; Personally never done PC so I wouldn't know, but reading all the constant whining here's my thing:
- Timezones; Understand that can be frustrating to other countries.
- No one sees a need for it in EvE. I haven't particularly looked at EvE itself with planetary involvement, since I'm not in the bigger alliances that most of the teams seem to be connected to, so I can't see if it really is having the effect that CCP intended. As long as it's working as planned, then yes it has an impact. So if you say it doesn't or EvE isn't taking it serious enough, here's what I propose you do; start a corporation of all the people complaining on Dust forums about it and start taking the districts with ZERO tie to EvE. If it starts impacting EvE players wallets they'll start taking you serious.




Yours in not in Christ

Wow, another neckbeard sayig how he doesnt have problems with a poorly programmed FPS, big suprise here. When you don't participate in the a major component of this game and you play spreadsheets in space, your opinion matters less than the guy spamming Planetside2 posts everday. Although, I don't have a problem with that guy.