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Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:13:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:15:00 -
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Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:16:00 -
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You called Car merc being mad? Or that his topic would get locked? |
Freshticles
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:17:00 -
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GM didn't have the right to lock that thread. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:19:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:You called Car merc being mad? Or that his topic would get locked? I'm Cat Merc's alt. And while yes I was mad at the time, my prediction came true. This game comes out, its bashed to hell by reviewers and slowly losing players. Half the community is burnt out and don't even find AFK'ing worth it. This game will slowly die out unless CCP get into gear and start pushing the development. |
oso tiburon
The Generals EoN.
24
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:21:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:You called Car merc being mad? Or that his topic would get locked? I'm Cat Merc's alt. And while yes I was mad at the time, my prediction came true. This game comes out, its bashed to hell by reviewers and slowly losing players. Half the community is burnt out and don't even find AFK'ing worth it. This game will slowly die out unless CCP get into gear and start pushing the development. ahmen
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Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:22:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:You called Car merc being mad? Or that his topic would get locked? I'm Cat Merc's alt. And while yes I was mad at the time, my prediction came true. This game comes out, its bashed to hell by reviewers and slowly losing players. Half the community is burnt out and don't even find AFK'ing worth it. This game will slowly die out unless CCP get into gear and start pushing the development. Ahhh, I had no idea. Sorry.
Yeah, I feel like sony may of pushed for a full release a bit early.
There has to be some behind the scenes action happening. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:24:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:You called Car merc being mad? Or that his topic would get locked? I'm Cat Merc's alt. And while yes I was mad at the time, my prediction came true. This game comes out, its bashed to hell by reviewers and slowly losing players. Half the community is burnt out and don't even find AFK'ing worth it. This game will slowly die out unless CCP get into gear and start pushing the development.
afking was never worth it. people misunderstanding the game forced themselves to grind away to chase sp and gear. meanwhile the rest of us either played if/when we found it enjoyable, or otherwise left to play outside. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:26:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:You called Car merc being mad? Or that his topic would get locked? I'm Cat Merc's alt. And while yes I was mad at the time, my prediction came true. This game comes out, its bashed to hell by reviewers and slowly losing players. Half the community is burnt out and don't even find AFK'ing worth it. This game will slowly die out unless CCP get into gear and start pushing the development. Ahhh, I had no idea. Sorry. Yeah, I feel like sony may of pushed for a full release a bit early. There has to be some behind the scenes action happening.
Sony loves the developers - what you talking bout Willis!!! |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:27:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:You called Car merc being mad? Or that his topic would get locked? I'm Cat Merc's alt. And while yes I was mad at the time, my prediction came true. This game comes out, its bashed to hell by reviewers and slowly losing players. Half the community is burnt out and don't even find AFK'ing worth it. This game will slowly die out unless CCP get into gear and start pushing the development. afking was never worth it. people misunderstanding the game forced themselves to grind away to chase sp and gear. meanwhile the rest of us either played if/when we found it enjoyable, or otherwise left to play outside. That's not my point. What I'm saying is that "The game is so bad and boring that people don't even feel like starting a match, spawning in the MCC and coming back 15 minute later." Not to mention actually playing it. |
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Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:38:00 -
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I'm just sayin, it feels like they rushed the release and I'm just not sure why nor can I see a reason that it needed to be put out there right away. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:56:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote: That's not my point. What I'm saying is that "The game is so bad and boring that people don't even feel like starting a match, spawning in the MCC and coming back 15 minute later." Not to mention actually playing it.
who's "people"? there's about 50k people who think it's worth logging onto.
my point is that your criteria is flawed. you're saying "if this game was even the least bit entertaining, people would at the very least enjoy mcc afking. nobody enjoys that, so the game must not be enjoyable." well, no, mcc afking is stupid and unenjoyable in its own right. if you'd just forget about mcc afking (which is an extension of the stupid SP grinding attitude) you might find parts of the game enjoyable, as tens of thousands of people do.
including me, i love this game and the never ending process of optimizing my doors and trying new gear in the field. but i realize my opinion is only relevant to me.
ccp makes games where being a noob is part of the end game. i think it's brilliant but there's just a lot of community education to do. people enslave themselves into the idea "i must grind until i max out and complete an elite template then i can go off and enjoy the end game" they try it here, and of course they burn out and wine on the forums and quit.
dust can definitely use a lot of improvement but 70-80% of the complaints are from people saying some variation of "the grind is boring! and it takes forever to grind!" and it doesn't occur to them to just not grind at all.
it's really self centric to claim the game is "boring". what you meant to say is that YOU don't enjoy it. and the most powerful way to communicate that is not to throw a public temper tantrum, but to just not log on. it shouldn't get you upset if to the rest us have found the game fun. just go somewhere else and enjoy yourself. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
579
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:06:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Kitten Empress wrote: That's not my point. What I'm saying is that "The game is so bad and boring that people don't even feel like starting a match, spawning in the MCC and coming back 15 minute later." Not to mention actually playing it.
who's "people"? there's about 50k people who think it's worth logging onto. my point is that your criteria is flawed. you're saying "if this game was even the least bit entertaining, people would at the very least enjoy mcc afking. nobody enjoys that, so the game must not be enjoyable." well, no, mcc afking is stupid and unenjoyable in its own right. if you'd just forget about mcc afking (which is an extension of the stupid SP grinding attitude) you might find parts of the game enjoyable, as tens of thousands of people do. including me, i love this game and the never ending process of optimizing my doors and trying new gear in the field. but i realize my opinion is only relevant to me. ccp makes games where being a noob is part of the end game. i think it's brilliant but there's just a lot of community education to do. people enslave themselves into the idea "i must grind until i max out and complete an elite template then i can go off and enjoy the end game" they try it here, and of course they burn out and wine on the forums and quit. dust can definitely use a lot of improvement but 70-80% of the complaints are from people saying some variation of "the grind is boring! and it takes forever to grind! and grinding costs money! and I'm not getting rewarded enough for grinding!" and it doesn't occur to them to just not grind at all. it's really self centric to claim the game is "boring". what you meant to say is that YOU don't enjoy it. and the most powerful way to communicate that is not to throw a public temper tantrum, but to just not log on. it shouldn't get you upset if to the rest us have found the game fun. just go somewhere else and enjoy yourself. 50k and dropping. And you don't understand. A lot of people during Chromosome thought "this game will be better, but I don't want to play it now. I should probably just AFK and be done with it". People have lost hope and now they won't even do that. Also, you're clinging onto this one little detail. Even if this argument is flawed, the rest is still true.
Also, you're enjoying a game when there are literally dozens of better games that do everything Dust does, only better, minus the EVE integration that you barely notice.
Just look at the forums, look at the player retention rate, look at the graphs, the game is slowly losing players and dying, its not gaining players. |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
88
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:11:00 -
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Noone gives a **** what you have to say, all I ever see you doing is bitching and whining, you're such a little 14 year old. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
579
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:12:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Noone gives a **** what you have to say, all I ever see you doing is bitching and whining, you're such a little 14 year old. Maybe if CCP gives me a reason to praise them I would >_> |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:13:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote: 50k and dropping. And you don't understand. A lot of people during Chromosome thought "this game will be better, but I don't want to play it now. I should probably just AFK and be done with it". People have lost hope and now they won't even do that. Also, you're clinging onto this one little detail. Even if this argument is flawed, the rest is still true.
Also, you're enjoying a game when there are literally dozens of better games that do everything Dust does, only better, minus the EVE integration that you barely notice.
Just look at the forums, look at the player retention rate, look at the graphs, the game is slowly losing players and dieing, its not gaining players.
yeah it's dropping. it might pop back up next patch, who knows? why does this matter to me? why does it to matter to you? is the popularity of your game something you get graded on on your report card? millions of people play WoW and CoD, so why are you and i here in this little corner of the universe?
and no, there aren't really many other games. at least not for me. planetside is the only thing close, i have no motivation to play it. i own bf3 and it doesn't even register on my radar. |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
88
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:13:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Noone gives a **** what you have to say, all I ever see you doing is bitching and whining, you're such a little 14 year old. Maybe if CCP gives me a reason to praise them I would >_>
Go play another game then? |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:14:00 -
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You should have picked the name "Kitty god"
also gratz on the prediction...I guess. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
579
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:18:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Noone gives a **** what you have to say, all I ever see you doing is bitching and whining, you're such a little 14 year old. Maybe if CCP gives me a reason to praise them I would >_> Go play another game then? This is the only game that does what I want it to do. The idea behind it is what I love. If this game fails, while I will have many alternatives, the idea behind this game will likely die. This is why I'm sticking around, I want this game to succeed and there is no better motivation for a company than seeing player counts drop.
And player counts do count. On average, 5% of the playerbase actually pays a cent. If the amount of players shrinks, so does the 5% of that playerbase, so the revenue stream gets smaller and smaller. |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
88
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:22:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Noone gives a **** what you have to say, all I ever see you doing is bitching and whining, you're such a little 14 year old. Maybe if CCP gives me a reason to praise them I would >_> Go play another game then? This is the only game that does what I want it to do. The idea behind it is what I love. If this game fails, while I will have many alternatives, the idea behind this game will likely die. This is why I'm sticking around, I want this game to succeed and there is no better motivation for a company than seeing player counts drop. And player counts do count. On average, 5% of the playerbase actually pays a cent. If the amount of players shrinks, so does the 5% of that playerbase, so the revenue stream gets smaller and smaller.
People aren't going to want to stick around when there's people like you shitposting all over the forums. The only thing driving me away from this game is 60% of the forum community.
You all have such an overblown sense of entitlement, it grinds my gears. |
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
162
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:24:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:Kitten Empress wrote: 50k and dropping. And you don't understand. A lot of people during Chromosome thought "this game will be better, but I don't want to play it now. I should probably just AFK and be done with it". People have lost hope and now they won't even do that. Also, you're clinging onto this one little detail. Even if this argument is flawed, the rest is still true.
Also, you're enjoying a game when there are literally dozens of better games that do everything Dust does, only better, minus the EVE integration that you barely notice.
Just look at the forums, look at the player retention rate, look at the graphs, the game is slowly losing players and dieing, its not gaining players.
yeah it's dropping. it might pop back up next patch, who knows? why does this matter to me? why does it to matter to you? is the popularity of your game something you get graded on on your report card? millions of people play WoW and CoD, so why are you and i here in this little corner of the universe? and no, there aren't really many other games. at least not for me. planetside is the only thing close, i have no motivation to play it. i own bf3 and it doesn't even register on my radar.
It doesn't have to matter to you that player count is dropping but why would you care or critise someone who is concerned about it? Kitten wants the game to succeed and player count is an important factor in this. The people who should be most concerned with this is CCP as it is their money on the line. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
579
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:25:00 -
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Dale Templar wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Dale Templar wrote:Noone gives a **** what you have to say, all I ever see you doing is bitching and whining, you're such a little 14 year old. Maybe if CCP gives me a reason to praise them I would >_> Go play another game then? This is the only game that does what I want it to do. The idea behind it is what I love. If this game fails, while I will have many alternatives, the idea behind this game will likely die. This is why I'm sticking around, I want this game to succeed and there is no better motivation for a company than seeing player counts drop. And player counts do count. On average, 5% of the playerbase actually pays a cent. If the amount of players shrinks, so does the 5% of that playerbase, so the revenue stream gets smaller and smaller. People aren't going to want to stick around when there's people like you shitposting all over the forums. The only thing driving me away from this game is 60% of the forum community. You all have such an overblown sense of entitlement, it grinds my gears. We won't be shitposting if we didn't see this game crashing like that Titan. |
Dao Ferret
BetaMax. CRONOS.
30
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:37:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:[quote=Terra Thesis][quote=Kitten Empress] ...
Also, you're enjoying a game when there are literally dozens of better games that do everything Dust does, only better, minus the EVE integration that you barely notice.
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Which are the dozen or so games would you recommend to play instead of DUST? (reasons about what they do better/worse would also be helpful) |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
580
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:40:00 -
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Dao Ferret wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:[quote=Terra Thesis][quote=Kitten Empress] ...
Also, you're enjoying a game when there are literally dozens of better games that do everything Dust does, only better, minus the EVE integration that you barely notice.
....
Which are the dozen or so games would you recommend to play instead of DUST? (reasons about what they do better/worse would also be helpful) 1.Pick a popular FPS game. 2.??? 3.Profit
Everything from graphics to gameplay is subpar in Dust514. The only part done right is the customization of dropsuits and menus. |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:41:00 -
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TL; DR troll thinks everyone that doesn't share his/her opinion is an idiot |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1676
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:41:00 -
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Silly kitty, Dust 514 is still in beta until it hits the PS4. |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
466
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:50:00 -
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When people get board of playing DUST 514 they will go play another game. By the time they get board with their next game, DUST 514 will be much improved and their character will have accumulated enough passive skill points to try out new stuff. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
580
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:50:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:Terra Thesis wrote:Kitten Empress wrote: 50k and dropping. And you don't understand. A lot of people during Chromosome thought "this game will be better, but I don't want to play it now. I should probably just AFK and be done with it". People have lost hope and now they won't even do that. Also, you're clinging onto this one little detail. Even if this argument is flawed, the rest is still true.
Also, you're enjoying a game when there are literally dozens of better games that do everything Dust does, only better, minus the EVE integration that you barely notice.
Just look at the forums, look at the player retention rate, look at the graphs, the game is slowly losing players and dieing, its not gaining players.
yeah it's dropping. it might pop back up next patch, who knows? why does this matter to me? why does it to matter to you? is the popularity of your game something you get graded on on your report card? millions of people play WoW and CoD, so why are you and i here in this little corner of the universe? and no, there aren't really many other games. at least not for me. planetside is the only thing close, i have no motivation to play it. i own bf3 and it doesn't even register on my radar. It doesn't have to matter to you that player count is dropping but why would you care or critise someone who is concerned about it? Kitten wants the game to succeed and player count is an important factor in this. The people who should be most concerned with this is CCP as it is their money on the line. This. |
Terra Thesis
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
165
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:50:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:It doesn't have to matter to you that player count is dropping but why would you care or critise someone who is concerned about it? Kitten wants the game to succeed and player count is an important factor in this. The people who should be most concerned with this is CCP as it is their money on the line.
because the **** posters aren't content to merely discuss it in a topic called "is dust going die?" they're spamming the forums with these threads and hijacking all the other ones so no one can talk about anything other than their personal opinion. what if me and 15 other guys posted non stop about the dust 514 best of e3 nomination, filled up the front page, and hijacked every thread with "doesn't matter guys, dust 514 got nominated for best of e3."
we're talking about this because the **** posters have won, and have forced us to talk about it. I'd rather discuss creative ways to use the active scanner or something, but i know i have to first Wade through a wall of trolls first.
I'm really trying to understand the attitude that "i love this game so I'm going to sabotage it so that the developers panic and start making it better." uh, sorry. i don't see that being helpful. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
580
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:52:00 -
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Terra Thesis wrote:A'Real Fury wrote:It doesn't have to matter to you that player count is dropping but why would you care or critise someone who is concerned about it? Kitten wants the game to succeed and player count is an important factor in this. The people who should be most concerned with this is CCP as it is their money on the line. because the **** posters aren't content to merely discuss it in a topic called "is dust going die?" they're spamming the forums with these threads and hijacking all the other ones so no one can talk about anything other than their personal opinion. what if me and 15 other guys posted non stop about the dust 514 best of e3 nomination, filled up the front page, and hijacked every thread with "doesn't matter guys, dust 514 got nominated for best of e3." we're talking about this because the **** posters have won, and have forced us to talk about it. I'd rather discuss creative ways to use the active scanner or something, but i know i have to first Wade through a wall of trolls first. I'm really trying to understand the attitude that "i love this game so I'm going to sabotage it so that the developers panic and start making it better." uh, sorry. i don't see that being helpful. This is a wake up call to them. It is not meant to make them panic, it is meant to open their eyes and see that something is wrong. |
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