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Terra Thesis
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:24:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:You called Car merc being mad? Or that his topic would get locked? I'm Cat Merc's alt. And while yes I was mad at the time, my prediction came true. This game comes out, its bashed to hell by reviewers and slowly losing players. Half the community is burnt out and don't even find AFK'ing worth it. This game will slowly die out unless CCP get into gear and start pushing the development.
afking was never worth it. people misunderstanding the game forced themselves to grind away to chase sp and gear. meanwhile the rest of us either played if/when we found it enjoyable, or otherwise left to play outside. |
Terra Thesis
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:56:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:
That's not my point.
What I'm saying is that "The game is so bad and boring that people don't even feel like starting a match, spawning in the MCC and coming back 15 minute later."
Not to mention actually playing it.
who's "people"? there's about 50k people who think it's worth logging onto.
my point is that your criteria is flawed. you're saying "if this game was even the least bit entertaining, people would at the very least enjoy mcc afking. nobody enjoys that, so the game must not be enjoyable." well, no, mcc afking is stupid and unenjoyable in its own right. if you'd just forget about mcc afking (which is an extension of the stupid SP grinding attitude) you might find parts of the game enjoyable, as tens of thousands of people do.
including me, i love this game and the never ending process of optimizing my doors and trying new gear in the field. but i realize my opinion is only relevant to me.
ccp makes games where being a noob is part of the end game. i think it's brilliant but there's just a lot of community education to do. people enslave themselves into the idea "i must grind until i max out and complete an elite template then i can go off and enjoy the end game" they try it here, and of course they burn out and wine on the forums and quit.
dust can definitely use a lot of improvement but 70-80% of the complaints are from people saying some variation of "the grind is boring! and it takes forever to grind!" and it doesn't occur to them to just not grind at all.
it's really self centric to claim the game is "boring". what you meant to say is that YOU don't enjoy it. and the most powerful way to communicate that is not to throw a public temper tantrum, but to just not log on. it shouldn't get you upset if to the rest us have found the game fun. just go somewhere else and enjoy yourself. |
Terra Thesis
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:13:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:
50k and dropping.
And you don't understand.
A lot of people during Chromosome thought "this game will be better, but I don't want to play it now. I should probably just AFK and be done with it".
People have lost hope and now they won't even do that.
Also, you're clinging onto this one little detail.
Even if this argument is flawed, the rest is still true.
Also, you're enjoying a game when there are literally dozens of better games that do everything Dust does, only better, minus the EVE integration that you barely notice.
Just look at the forums, look at the player retention rate, look at the graphs, the game is slowly losing players and dieing, its not gaining players.
yeah it's dropping. it might pop back up next patch, who knows? why does this matter to me? why does it to matter to you? is the popularity of your game something you get graded on on your report card? millions of people play WoW and CoD, so why are you and i here in this little corner of the universe?
and no, there aren't really many other games. at least not for me. planetside is the only thing close, i have no motivation to play it. i own bf3 and it doesn't even register on my radar. |
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Posted - 2013.06.14 17:50:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:It doesn't have to matter to you that player count is dropping but why would you care or critise someone who is concerned about it? Kitten wants the game to succeed and player count is an important factor in this. The people who should be most concerned with this is CCP as it is their money on the line.
because the **** posters aren't content to merely discuss it in a topic called "is dust going die?" they're spamming the forums with these threads and hijacking all the other ones so no one can talk about anything other than their personal opinion. what if me and 15 other guys posted non stop about the dust 514 best of e3 nomination, filled up the front page, and hijacked every thread with "doesn't matter guys, dust 514 got nominated for best of e3."
we're talking about this because the **** posters have won, and have forced us to talk about it. I'd rather discuss creative ways to use the active scanner or something, but i know i have to first Wade through a wall of trolls first.
I'm really trying to understand the attitude that "i love this game so I'm going to sabotage it so that the developers panic and start making it better." uh, sorry. i don't see that being helpful. |
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Posted - 2013.06.14 22:18:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:But responding in a similar off-hand fashion does not help your position anymore than my first reaction when I see certain posts. I understand why you are frustrated but really was there any point responding to this thread and basically saying "I don't care so why should you?".
my first post in this thread wasn't bitching about the bitching. it was a very specific response regarding the perceived need to grind (specifially, afk grind) in Dust 514.
by the time we got around to the part of the conversation i think you're referring to, it wasn't "shut up about player counts", it was "what do player counts have to do with the preceding points in this discussion" |
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Posted - 2013.06.14 22:49:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:I doubt these threads and our comments will panic the Devs but the more useful ones may give them something to focus on. What may panic them is people just stop playing in large numbers and don't bother providing any reason to why they left. Feedback constructive or not is useful as a guide if you see a corresponding reaction within the game e.g. AFKing, not using particular weapons, or not logging in.
I'm not against giving feedback, especially if it's not accompanied by excessive ranting, trolling, and attention-seeking. In fact, I clicked "like" on one of OP's other posts which I thought much more well written. I believe it was titled something like "the cat is not pleased"...
However, I still think the most important piece of feedback is whether or not you continue to play. This registers on CCP's metrics more directly than any other means of communication. If you stick around but trash up the forums, you're not really accomplishing anything except getting in the way of other players that do enjoy the game. |
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