DUST Search - New weapons likely coming on update 1.2

Daxxis KANNAH wrote:

Avallo Kantor wrote:

Noc Tempre wrote:

Alldin Kan wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_LlH2c5dyA

Pause at 1:07 and look at killfeed.

"Leadgrave" R5-90 Combat Rifle

Well at least the new stuff might make me forget that the new plates are somewhat useless.

Take the current assault rifles. Split them into 4 skills. "New" weapons...

The Scrambler Rifle is supposed to be the Amarrian variant of that weapon type,
so while I think many current sub-variants of the AR are more or less temporary reprieves
before the other variants are added the new variants will be doing things a bit differently than
any current AR variants currently do.

Also, it wouldn't split it into 4 skills. AR skill stays, and they'll add 2 new weapon skills. The Caldari one,
and the Minmatar one. (and those will have all their respective subskills as well)

Yes from all the discussion I got the notion that the Assault AR will be Gallente, the Burst AR will be the Combat Rifle and the TAR the Caladari Rail Rifle. Not exactly but the mechanics of how they work and then they alter ranges for each.

Maybe this month or next......but wont get my hopes up.

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Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 246	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:36:00 - [1] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_LlH2c5dyA Pause at 1:07 and look at killfeed. "Leadgrave" R5-90 Combat Rifle Well at least the new stuff might make me forget that the new plates are somewhat useless.
CCPs Incompetency Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:41:00 - [2] - Quote Wow im soooo excited...........Not
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 313	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:44:00 - [3] - Quote Minmatar combat rifles... Neat.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4306	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:44:00 - [4] - Quote Thank you for sharing the awesomeness :)
Xender17 Intrepidus XI Omega Commission 169	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:44:00 - [5] - Quote You are VERY thorough.
GLiMPSE X IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 127	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:47:00 - [6] - Quote Xender17 wrote: You are VERY thorough. He needs something to do while he camps the highpoint on a map with a forge gun.... :-P
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 654	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:49:00 - [7] - Quote That level or at least the building he was in at the time you gave seems to be new. Looks Gallente as well (only because of the green)
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1921	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:50:00 - [8] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_LlH2c5dyA Pause at 1:07 and look at killfeed. "Leadgrave" R5-90 Combat Rifle Well at least the new stuff might make me forget that the new plates are somewhat useless. Take the current assault rifles. Split them into 4 skills. "New" weapons...
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 137	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:52:00 - [9] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_LlH2c5dyA Pause at 1:07 and look at killfeed. "Leadgrave" R5-90 Combat Rifle Well at least the new stuff might make me forget that the new plates are somewhat useless. Almost makes me wish Kameiras was a possible mimmatar background. Damn that would be cool.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 250	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:53:00 - [10] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_LlH2c5dyA Pause at 1:07 and look at killfeed. "Leadgrave" R5-90 Combat Rifle Well at least the new stuff might make me forget that the new plates are somewhat useless. Take the current assault rifles. Split them into 4 skills. "New" weapons... Shhhs... don't say that while CCP is still around the forums.

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 350	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:54:00 - [11] - Quote Please add more stuff. That'll fix all the existing issues for sure!
Makuta Miserix Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 102	Posted - 2013.06.12 03:57:00 - [12] - Quote Thank you for sharing this! Hopefully we will see the new weapons soon, not soonGäó.
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 266	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:01:00 - [13] - Quote Noticed a Heavy Commando ak.0 suit at 1:38 as well. Proto Commando has 2 hislots, 1 low slot, 1 light weapon, 1 sidearm, and 1 equipment slot?? How...odd. NOTE: It could be misdirection on the fitting screen and still actually have 2 light weapon slots. I say this because he's fitting a CPU Upgrade in the low slot when he's only using 215 of 300 odd CPU. Total shi*fit, devs!
Cinnamon267 The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 81	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:03:00 - [14] - Quote The RDV's look different @ 0.28 - 30 seconds in.
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 352	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:04:00 - [15] - Quote Xender17 wrote: You are VERY thorough. Going back I saw the pilot suit skill and the second heavy specialization skill. I am happy with this.
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 266	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:08:00 - [16] - Quote XXfootnoteXX wrote: Going back I saw the pilot suit skill and the second heavy specialization skill. Also more armor options. Where was the pilot suit? (timestamp?) The Heavy Commando was interesting, I'll admit.
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 106	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:12:00 - [17] - Quote Cinnamon267 wrote: The RDV's look different @ 0.28 - 30 seconds in. That's the Gallente RDV, it's curvier than our current Caldari RDV. Same amount of alcohol consumed though
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 352	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:13:00 - [18] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: XXfootnoteXX wrote: Going back I saw the pilot suit skill and the second heavy specialization skill. Also more armor options. Where was the pilot suit? (timestamp?) The Heavy Commando was interesting, I'll admit. 1:12. I had to hit pause and play a lot to see it, right after they show the armor they show the skill tree and it is with the Gallente light suits.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 2	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:14:00 - [19] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_LlH2c5dyA Pause at 1:07 and look at killfeed. "Leadgrave" R5-90 Combat Rifle Well at least the new stuff might make me forget that the new plates are somewhat useless. Take the current assault rifles. Split them into 4 skills. "New" weapons... They will probably give a SP respec to AR/SR skills to allow players to choose a new type of rifle
Christas Corpus Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire 3	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:19:00 - [20] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: XXfootnoteXX wrote: Going back I saw the pilot suit skill and the second heavy specialization skill. Also more armor options. Where was the pilot suit? (timestamp?) The Heavy Commando was interesting, I'll admit. 1:13, there you go.

Avallo Kantor DUST University Ivy League 38	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:28:00 - [21] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_LlH2c5dyA Pause at 1:07 and look at killfeed. "Leadgrave" R5-90 Combat Rifle Well at least the new stuff might make me forget that the new plates are somewhat useless. Take the current assault rifles. Split them into 4 skills. "New" weapons... The Scrambler Rifle is supposed to be the Amarrian variant of that weapon type, so while I think many current sub-variants of the AR are more or less temporary reprieves before the other variants are added the new variants will be doing things a bit differently than any current AR variants currently do. Also, it wouldn't split it into 4 skills. AR skill stays, and they'll add 2 new weapon skills. The Caldari one, and the Minmatar one. (and those will have all their respective subskills as well)
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 266	Posted - 2013.06.12 04:58:00 - [22] - Quote Christas Corpus wrote: 1:13, there you go. Bah. As cool as that is, the same frame dashed my hopes a bit. Neither Gallente nor Caldari Heavy Dropsuit skills were anywhere on that skill tree. Looks like we're going to be stuck with the slave driver suits for a while...
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 352	Posted - 2013.06.12 05:02:00 - [23] - Quote Disturbingly Bored wrote: Christas Corpus wrote: 1:13, there you go. Bah. As cool as that is, the same frame dashed my hopes a bit. Neither Gallente nor Caldari Heavy Dropsuit skills were anywhere on that skill tree. Looks like we're going to be stuck with the slave driver suits for a while... If I was a heavy it would be bothered, but I am not so I am happy about the pilot suits.
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 319	Posted - 2013.06.12 05:10:00 - [24] - Quote A "commando" suit should have been a hybrid between assault and Scout not a heavy suit tbh.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 479	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:02:00 - [25] - Quote CCP, would you kindly fix armor before you add anti armor weaponry? Let me guess, this is going to be 70/130? Because its not like you shied away from giving armor ridiculously bad resistances before.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 659	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:33:00 - [26] - Quote I have no idea how you could listen to that guys smug condescending voice over and over to find that. I had to mute him after 10 seconds. That advert is so outdated. Its liking watching a movie trailer from the early 80's. And thats not a good thing.
J-Lewis Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 126	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:34:00 - [27] - Quote Tree is getting cluttered and turning into another list. I don't think training a new set of skills for each new weapon is a good idea. Go look at the skill list.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1390	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:36:00 - [28] - Quote Patiently awaits the delicious tears when people find out the Gallente AR is going to get a range nerf once the ARs are split up
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 33	Posted - 2013.06.12 11:51:00 - [29] - Quote I'm wondering what the Commando suit will be for. It seems to have the same slot layout as a heavy (save for the addition of an equipment slot), so I'm wondering what it's bonuses will be and what it's inteded role is. With what appears to be just an equipment slot, perhaps it's for those people who like to run a heavy suit but use light weapons? (Kind of like in the vid, I guess) Also, what was that guy's fixation with shooting people in the butt?
Nalhe Saldana Get me off this damn rock. 13	Posted - 2013.06.12 12:21:00 - [30] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: I'm wondering what the Commando suit will be for. It seems to have the same slot layout as a heavy (save for the addition of an equipment slot), so I'm wondering what it's bonuses will be and what it's inteded role is. With what appears to be just an equipment slot, perhaps it's for those people who like to run a heavy suit but use light weapons? (Kind of like in the vid, I guess) Also, what was that guy's fixation with shooting people in the butt? I'm guessing its somewhere between heavy and medium with a bit less tank and more movement speed. It gets 2 Light weapon slots so you can do funky stuff like scram rifle and mass driver to pwn all tanking types.

martinofski Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire 189	Posted - 2013.06.12 12:39:00 - [31] - Quote Nalhe Saldana wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: I'm wondering what the Commando suit will be for. It seems to have the same slot layout as a heavy (save for the addition of an equipment slot), so I'm wondering what it's bonuses will be and what it's inteded role is. With what appears to be just an equipment slot, perhaps it's for those people who like to run a heavy suit but use light weapons? (Kind of like in the vid, I guess) Also, what was that guy's fixation with shooting people in the butt? I'm guessing its somewhere between heavy and medium with a bit less tank and more movement speed. It gets 2 Light weapon slots so you can do funky stuff like scram rifle and mass driver to pwn all tanking types. But it suck more than a assault or logi in every way, except the second light weapon slot. Hell it's a PROTO suit with 2H, 1L slot layout. What do you do with that. You can't tank anything with that. 700eHP or so, when you run slower than a assault or logi which can have 1000eHP. "But you can tank snipe with it"...not, even though that is the only thing you will do with it. I would have prefered much more to get the other race for the heavy, instead of another suit in the Amarr branch not a damn heavy want to skill into.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 78	Posted - 2013.06.12 12:57:00 - [32] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_LlH2c5dyA Pause at 1:07 and look at killfeed. "Leadgrave" R5-90 Combat Rifle Well at least the new stuff might make me forget that the new plates are somewhat useless. Take the current assault rifles. Split them into 4 skills. "New" weapons... The Scrambler Rifle is supposed to be the Amarrian variant of that weapon type, so while I think many current sub-variants of the AR are more or less temporary reprieves before the other variants are added the new variants will be doing things a bit differently than any current AR variants currently do. Also, it wouldn't split it into 4 skills. AR skill stays, and they'll add 2 new weapon skills. The Caldari one, and the Minmatar one. (and those will have all their respective subskills as well) Yes from all the discussion I got the notion that the Assault AR will be Gallente, the Burst AR will be the Combat Rifle and the TAR the Caladari Rail Rifle. Not exactly but the mechanics of how they work and then they alter ranges for each. Maybe this month or next......but wont get my hopes up.
SERPENT-Adamapple Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 98	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:06:00 - [33] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Avallo Kantor wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_LlH2c5dyA Pause at 1:07 and look at killfeed. "Leadgrave" R5-90 Combat Rifle Well at least the new stuff might make me forget that the new plates are somewhat useless. Take the current assault rifles. Split them into 4 skills. "New" weapons... The Scrambler Rifle is supposed to be the Amarrian variant of that weapon type, so while I think many current sub-variants of the AR are more or less temporary reprieves before the other variants are added the new variants will be doing things a bit differently than any current AR variants currently do. Also, it wouldn't split it into 4 skills. AR skill stays, and they'll add 2 new weapon skills. The Caldari one, and the Minmatar one. (and those will have all their respective subskills as well) Yes from all the discussion I got the notion that the Assault AR will be Gallente, the Burst AR will be the Combat Rifle and the TAR the Caladari Rail Rifle. Not exactly but the mechanics of how they work and then they alter ranges for each. Maybe this month or next......but wont get my hopes up. Amarr: scrambler Rifle=TAR Caldari: Rail Rifle=Breach Rifle Minmatar: Combat Rifle=Burst Rifle
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 78	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:12:00 - [34] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: A "commando" suit should have been a hybrid between assault and Scout not a heavy suit tbh. Yip - You would need either Light or Medium suit LV5 to start speccing into it. You could choose between LW, SA, 2 EQ or 2 LW, 1 EQ Also 1% Weapon Damage increase per level and 2% Damage Resistance per level Max High slot / Low slot configuration is 6 (Scouts are 5, Assaults are 7)
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 78	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:23:00 - [35] - Quote SERPENT-Adamapple wrote: Amarr: scrambler Rifle=TAR Caldari: Rail Rifle=Breach Rifle Minmatar: Combat Rifle=Burst Rifle The Rail Rifle will most likely have the most range though it will probably fire slow like the breach maybe slower. They may also throw in a variant that can fire faster but obviously not as powerful. I think it will be Rail>ScR>ComRifle>Assault in terms of range with the existing TAR being lower than the scrambler but higher than Combat rifle. We'll see.
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 266	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:27:00 - [36] - Quote martinofski wrote: But it suck more than a assault or logi in every way, except the second light weapon slot. Hell it's a PROTO suit with 2H, 1L slot layout. What do you do with that. You can't tank anything with that. 700eHP or so, when you run slower than a assault or logi which can have 1000eHP. "But you can tank snipe with it"...not, even though that is the only thing you will do with it. I would have prefered much more to get the other race for the heavy, instead of another suit in the Amarr branch not a damn heavy want to skill into. The only way it would be worth using is if it has two light weapon slots. That opens up a big enough world of possibilities that the gimpy slot count and slow speed might be necessaryGÇª Sniper + Shotgun AR + Swarm Launcher Scrambler Rifle + Mass Driver All sound wicked fun to me. If it's the bog standard one light weapon/one sidearm, I expect it to be laughed at heartily and never, ever used...
Cody Sietz The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 208	Posted - 2013.06.12 13:30:00 - [37] - Quote May I please buy you something? Great find.
SHANN da MAN D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 13	Posted - 2013.06.12 17:22:00 - [38] - Quote Yet another example of players having to find out about new content by dissecting gameplay videos instead of hearing from DEV's in forum posts or DEV Blogs ...
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 352	Posted - 2013.06.13 00:16:00 - [39] - Quote I really cant wait till the Ion Pistol (?) The gallente sidearm.


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