no hide and seek?

before match send a few of the enemy players a message saying "I bet you can't find me *******"

Then in the match, hide

rules, no redline or MCC antics

Expected a hardcore to say something like what you don't wanna loose all your isk you must be a QQ noob go play CoD kid. Nah but that's a good idea could do a small city with internal building space that you can run inside.

I would like to see a Juggernaut game mode where 1 out of 8 or 16 or 32 players is chosen to be the juggernaut and the rest of the team is tasked with killing the juggernaut. When the Juggernaut is killed, another player is selected as juggernaut.

When you are selected as Juggernaut you are colour coded and you spawn anywhere on the map you like on ground level. You get 50 000 ISK every time you kill the juggernaut and you get 35 000 ISK every time you assist in killing the juggernaut.

The Juggernaut would have gear that is better than proto gear if the match had more than 8 players (weapons would not be better than proto though, only suits and some modules). Non juggernauts would be able to see where every other non juggernaut is to assist in players staying together.

The juggernaut would get 20 000 ISK for every kill.

We do need more game modes....

That being said, this is not a game for casuals. At all. If you want casual, There's the door to CoD.

ISK risk is not what makes Dust not fun, unfortunately. I wish that was all that was wrong with the game that caused so many people to lose interest.

Any more game mode ideas?

Boarding Action.

You get two squads to jump on top of each dropship. They must stay balanced on there while the two dropships manoeuvre to boarding range. Nova Knives and fists only. Brawling commences, jumping from ship to ship and beating the daylights out of each other while trying not to fall. The last team with people still in the air wins.

This is not I hate Dust 514 because I loose all the time so let me go on the forums and complain. I want to be honest here Dust 514 is simply not fun there is a serious competitive attitude even in instant battles. There is always isk at risk for low isk gain which is never good because it makes you question your actions every time you pull out a proto suit. Then when you get spawn killed in a Ambush match because they spawned you right by 10 enemys you get annoyed and agitated. In other games their is no risk factor it is simply fun take halo for example matches are competitive but don't give you a huge risk factor so you can enjoy it. They have a map editor so you can make zombie maps which everyone enjoyed in Halo 3 and this makes the Halo games fun. This is what Dust is lacking the atmosphere is always tense and serious and the grind to make lost isk back is simply horrible. Dust needs something that gives no risk but is still fun so here are some ideas that will help make Dust fun.

I know a Arena mode is being made so these could come under Arena matches


Racing mode

Bring your vehicle into a racing match you can use free LAVS or build your own equipped with chassis, nitrous, or power plants. Players bet on who they think will win bet on your friends, a likely winner, or simply bet isk on a nooby for giggles.

Dropship version


Non-Competitive match

Bring any gear you want in to the battle without risk of loosing it this is a Non-Competitive match that gives no isk or skill points but doesn't put your best suits at risk.


Corp Battles

These battles could be non-competitive meaning no one looses anything these could be internal battles for corp members only or battles against other corporations.

Options/settings

*Corps bet isk that they will win. Winner gets the others and their own isk
*Players loose gear when they die/Players don't loose gear when they die
*8 versus 8
*16 versus 16
*24 versus 24


Player versus player battles

Can fight against other players and bet isk that you or your team will win.

Options/settings

*Allow players not competing in the battle to bet on players inside the battle.
*1 versus 1
*2 versus 2
*3 versus 3
*4 versus 4
*free for all 8 players
*Allow spectator mode
*Players loose gear when they die/Players don't loose gear when they die
*Militia suits only


Tag match

One player starts it everyone has 10 seconds to run away from him match is held inside a small city with internal space for buildings. He must nova knife someone to make them it he also has a 6 shot scrambler pistol if he shoots someone they become it he may not get more ammo. At the end of the match the last one it looses.


I hope you guys like some of the ideas here sometimes the game is just to competitive and some of these no risk ideas would help Dust become fun! I know there are hardcores here who will disagree and say things like Dust will always be a serious game but these people do not speak for the entire community. Some of us just want to go into a know stress zone and bet 500,000 isk or play a non-competitive match.

Thank you
-Eris Ernaga

Eh. I'd like more than the three game mods that we have, but if there was no risk/reward, I probably wouldn't play. It's satisfying chucking an AV grenade and getting the killing blow on a tank and knowing that that guy lost more than just some "tank points" or something dumb like that. It's satisfying looking at the killboard and seeing that your team has killed a dude in prototype gear enough times to set him back no matter how many times he kills you, even if ISK isn't really an object for him.

I'm all for betting PC matches, perhaps with odds based on how many districts each Corporation controls. Most of those other "for fun" game modes are fun, but don't really fit in with the spirit of the game.

We could have knife/melee only matches.

Huge bar room brawls!

I have to say I dont agree on the free for all, dust 514 is supposed to be a team based FPS shooter, Not call of duty or Battlefield 3

We would need extended stamina bars or people would die of fatigue before killing anyone.

And the spirit of the game is dull and not fun it would be your choice to play PC or not and arena battles are already coming these are just ideas on how to expand them.

Meh. I prefer it this way. If I wanted to play a silly knives only or juggernaut or zombies game variant, I'd play Halo. I prefer it when my games have one unified... idea. That sort of thing works fine in Halo, because the game is made to be quick, silly, easy, no-risk fun. "Oh, you died, well whatever, try again." DUST514 isn't that game. The whole point is that your actions have consequences, including your deaths. It's silly to see massive, faceless corporations wasting perfectly good clones and equipment on LAV races, and runs exactly counter to everything else in the game.

You can say "well, it'd be your choice whether to play those game modes or not," and that's true. However, funds and time are limited, and every second and cent spent developing those modes is time and money that could be spent on things I care about.

You can say "well, it'd be your choice whether to play those game modes or not," and that's true. However, funds and time are limited, and every second and cent spent developing those modes is time and money that could be spent on things I care about.

Yes but you have to look at the players you are disappointing by not adding this kind of content I would be one of them. I could equally say if they work on what you want to see in Dust 514 you are disappointing me and that is why I wont play. Dust should aim to please more then one kind of player.

You absolutely could say that, but it doesn't mean I have to agree with it. If you're disappointed and quit because there's no racing mode or no knife-only mode, that's your decision, but it's a safe assumption that most people who pick up a first-person shooter want to shoot people in the first person, not race. You are not the target audience, therefore your wants and needs are secondary to those who just wanna shoot doods. If you, or others like you leave because of it, you leave.

Additional game variants are fine, but I don't think DUST should have custom matches. Certainly none where "no gear loss on death" is an option. Betting on the outcome of Planetary Conquest or even hypothetical 'arena' matches would be interesting, although there would either have to be a fairly low maximum bid or low payouts altogether. Way too much money to be made too easily that way.

A Juggernaut mode could work, but only if the Juggernaut had to buy a Juggernaut dropsuit first that was only usable in that game variants. And even then, I wouldn't like it being included.

Buying the juggernaut suit cancels out the fun and makes isk factor in to it again we are not a small audience we already have instant battles, faction warfare, and pc battles which are going to be expanded and we are getting PVE. We already have risk/pvp here it makes Dust what it is but since it is already established we need something that makes Dust fun. Arena mode which is already coming will do this just some ideas for it. A lot of people want this.

The Juggernaut variant suggested earlier had the Juggernaut and no receiving ISK for each kill. If there's going to be any reward, there has to be a risk, otherwise it'll throw off the marketplace once that becomes a thing. As for just making a no-risk, no-reward version, like I said, that comes at the cost of things that are actually important to the game. Maybe this time next year, once we have more than just three game variants and can afford to waste time on "just for fun" modes, they can throw in a Juggernaut or Nova Knives only variant, but I'd rather they didn't. Not unless they can come up with a good reason for them to exist other than "Some players really really wanted it." As for the amount of people who want such things- A lot of people want unlimited respecs and various weapons to be nerfed and/or buffed, but it doesn't mean they should get everything they want.

You raise a good point.

Perhaps a game mode where players play on a chaotic map with an overwhelming amount of environmental hazards of differing types. (Electricity arching from sky frequently at certain spots, Lava that shoots out of the ground). You automatically purchase (at start of the match and every time you die) a modified dropsuit (adds an extra 2000 ISK to all your dropsuit loadout costs) that carries an 2 extra grenade slots that are always required to be filled with special grenades. If you don't die during the match then you are not charged for that dropsuit at all (same as always). Free starter suits would still be free.

Special grenade type 1 could have a small detonation time that nullifies any hazard in detonation area for a period of time (like 30 seconds, and detonation area of 30m radius) by erecting a bubble shield that also covers the ground to allow safe access to that area of the map temporarily. The hazards will kill you when grenade timer expires (unless you use another special grenade prior) and bullets and grenades can pass through the bubble shields. You carry 4 of type 1 special grenades maximum.

Type 2 special grenades would just have a much smaller radius (6.5 m radius and last 60 seconds). You could carry 3 of these. Thus you can be engulfed by flames or whatever hazard but still be safe and be visually cloaked by hazard and no scanner can detect you. Thus when you temporarily nullify hazards with type 1 grenades, you must be cautious that others may be lurking inside them in some specific location on map. (maybe a proto heavy with a breach shotgun )

Hazards can have a radius as large as 52m.

You could move through narrow safe areas like high narrow bridges or groud based narrow corridors or small barren pockets of land (to park vehicles). Narrow passages would weave around the map (obvious choke points) and 4 or 5 safe pockets of land would exist for vehicles to park. Choke points maybe in hazard areas as well.

Vehicles would be modified with an extra active module that last 65 seconds which renders vehicle immune to hazards. (the safe pockets of land are mainly for waiting until 22 second cooldown timer completes for the special active module on vehicles). Allows tanks and LAVs to be ambushed by anti vehicle weapons much easier since vehicles would have less room to hide sometimes. Special module would add 5000 ISK to vehicle loadout costs. free LAVs would still be free.

Supply depots that erect there own 6m radius bubble shields dot the map to replenish special grenades and other equipment. Shielded supply depots only allow dropsuits and grenades through there shields (slow moving objects), LAVs are fast moving, maybe call them kinetic shields? Melee can pass through shields to kill enemies at supply depots. (this creates element of assassins or proto guys camping supply depots, snipers would not work)

Other hazards could be tornados that pass over the map and are deadly if you are not in close proximity to temporary gravity enhancing devices (shielded supply depots). The tornados force would temporarily render bullets and grenades useless all over map until tornado is gone (it would take tornado 10 seconds to pass over map, gives you a good view of eye of tornado, something you make you say WOW, maybe electricity arching across walls of tornado and lots of debris). You are warned that a tornado is approaching 21 seconds prior to the tornado hazard passing over the map by small text appearing next to armor/shield meter. Perhaps make text flash frequently. Tornado can be nullified by special grenades but the grenades would only last 6 seconds and would have a radius of 19m. (to give you some fighting room around supply depots during the tornado's presence.)