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Delenne Arran
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Posted - 2013.06.14 02:42:00 -
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Eh. I'd like more than the three game mods that we have, but if there was no risk/reward, I probably wouldn't play. It's satisfying chucking an AV grenade and getting the killing blow on a tank and knowing that that guy lost more than just some "tank points" or something dumb like that. It's satisfying looking at the killboard and seeing that your team has killed a dude in prototype gear enough times to set him back no matter how many times he kills you, even if ISK isn't really an object for him.
I'm all for betting PC matches, perhaps with odds based on how many districts each Corporation controls. Most of those other "for fun" game modes are fun, but don't really fit in with the spirit of the game. |
Delenne Arran
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Posted - 2013.06.15 02:21:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote: And the spirit of the game is dull and not fun it would be your choice to play PC or not and arena battles are already coming these are just ideas on how to expand them.
Meh. I prefer it this way. If I wanted to play a silly knives only or juggernaut or zombies game variant, I'd play Halo. I prefer it when my games have one unified... idea. That sort of thing works fine in Halo, because the game is made to be quick, silly, easy, no-risk fun. "Oh, you died, well whatever, try again." DUST514 isn't that game. The whole point is that your actions have consequences, including your deaths. It's silly to see massive, faceless corporations wasting perfectly good clones and equipment on LAV races, and runs exactly counter to everything else in the game.
You can say "well, it'd be your choice whether to play those game modes or not," and that's true. However, funds and time are limited, and every second and cent spent developing those modes is time and money that could be spent on things I care about. |
Delenne Arran
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Posted - 2013.06.15 03:02:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Quote:You can say "well, it'd be your choice whether to play those game modes or not," and that's true. However, funds and time are limited, and every second and cent spent developing those modes is time and money that could be spent on things I care about. Yes but you have to look at the players you are disappointing by not adding this kind of content I would be one of them. I could equally say if they work on what you want to see in Dust 514 you are disappointing me and that is why I wont play. Dust should aim to please more then one kind of player.
You absolutely could say that, but it doesn't mean I have to agree with it. If you're disappointed and quit because there's no racing mode or no knife-only mode, that's your decision, but it's a safe assumption that most people who pick up a first-person shooter want to shoot people in the first person, not race. You are not the target audience, therefore your wants and needs are secondary to those who just wanna shoot doods. If you, or others like you leave because of it, you leave.
Additional game variants are fine, but I don't think DUST should have custom matches. Certainly none where "no gear loss on death" is an option. Betting on the outcome of Planetary Conquest or even hypothetical 'arena' matches would be interesting, although there would either have to be a fairly low maximum bid or low payouts altogether. Way too much money to be made too easily that way.
A Juggernaut mode could work, but only if the Juggernaut had to buy a Juggernaut dropsuit first that was only usable in that game variants. And even then, I wouldn't like it being included.
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Delenne Arran
Ivory Hounds
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Posted - 2013.06.15 07:13:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:
Buying the juggernaut suit cancels out the fun and makes isk factor in to it again we are not a small audience we already have instant battles, faction warfare, and pc battles which are going to be expanded and we are getting PVE. We already have risk/pvp here it makes Dust what it is but since it is already established we need something that makes Dust fun. Arena mode which is already coming will do this just some ideas for it. A lot of people want this.
The Juggernaut variant suggested earlier had the Juggernaut and no receiving ISK for each kill. If there's going to be any reward, there has to be a risk, otherwise it'll throw off the marketplace once that becomes a thing. As for just making a no-risk, no-reward version, like I said, that comes at the cost of things that are actually important to the game. Maybe this time next year, once we have more than just three game variants and can afford to waste time on "just for fun" modes, they can throw in a Juggernaut or Nova Knives only variant, but I'd rather they didn't. Not unless they can come up with a good reason for them to exist other than "Some players really really wanted it." As for the amount of people who want such things- A lot of people want unlimited respecs and various weapons to be nerfed and/or buffed, but it doesn't mean they should get everything they want. |
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