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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1237
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:05:00 -
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PS4 officially wins hands down
The only black mark is thet PS+ sub but with what you get which is what free games every month/beta access/cloud saves so if PS4 break you dont lose your saves/discounts but since ive decided to boycott EA games i save at least -ú50 which can go on then PS+ instead which i will use
You could decide to buy the XBOX 1984 with TV instead, just make sure you have doritoes and dew in the room so the kinect can see it |
Sonicshadow006
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:05:00 -
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Natu Nobilis wrote:A question:
Dust 514 runs directly on CCP-¦s servers, do the other games do the same or they all run on a Sony one?
I'm pretty sure all games have their own servers. Those guys don't get it off easy. |
Sonicshadow006
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:07:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:PS4 officially wins hands down
The only black mark is thet PS+ sub but with what you get which is what free games every month/beta access/cloud saves so if PS4 break you dont lose your saves/discounts but since ive decided to boycott EA games i save at least -ú50 which can go on then PS+ instead which i will use
You could decide to buy the XBOX 1984 with TV instead, just make sure you have doritoes and dew in the room so the kinect can see it
The PS4 design does not amuse. It's almost as bad as the new VCR. PS Plus, though I hate to pay for it, gives good features. EA are ditching online passes BTW. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1323
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:10:00 -
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Sonicshadow006 wrote:EA are ditching online passes BTW. They only got rid of them because of the deal with Microsoft and Xbox gold pretty much does the same thing... |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
273
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:10:00 -
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ah sorry your right it won't brick if you don't pay the 5 dollars it only bricks if you try and use it without the internet.
though considering almost every good game shown at e3 was indeed a multiplayer game I have trouble seeing the purpose of an xbone without it.
anyway if they are doing away with the passes that's fine, good for them. but if xbox fan boys had no problem paying for xbox live for years to play quality games I don't think I'll mind all that much if I have to this generation, at least I get free games and discounts with it. |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
347
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:11:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Says you need ps plus subscription for multi play. Not online play.
Ie. hand your buddy your game. If you both have ps+ you can both play the same game simultaneously online. You will have installed it - he will play from the disc.
That's what I've gathered from everything anyway. Being able to lend your game without losin the ability to play it. Seems cool.
I have yet to see anything that says ps+ is required for online play.
Also this doesn't apply to dust. Physical disc copies only.
They announced this months ago, an exec leaked it. If you purchase any second hand game you will be required to pay for + to have online content or you will have tp pay an unlock fee for the game. |
Sonicshadow006
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:13:00 -
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calisk galern wrote: it only bricks if you try and use it without the internet.
LOL, fail Microsoft
Why does it suddenly need internet 24/7? |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
347
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:14:00 -
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Sonicshadow006 wrote:calisk galern it only bricks if you try and use it without the internet. LOL, fail Microsoft [:twisted wrote:
Why does it suddenly need internet 24/7?
to combat against pirated games and mods. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
570
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:14:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I'd pay for PS+ membership since it has great benefits. The only reason I don't now is because I've never had to. +1 Agreed.
PS3 was my first console since I had absolutely no interest in consoles. Bought it for DUST.
Also bought PS+ to maximize my chances of getting in as early as possible, again had no interest in PS+ outside of that.
But i have to admit now PS+ is a great deal, I have lots of good title I don't have the time to play - spending a little time in my free copy of Deus Ex Human Revolution right now. Playe the original but never would have bought the sequal.
Anyway, I've more than got my money back fom PS+. |
Sonicshadow006
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:15:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Sonicshadow006 wrote:calisk galern it only bricks if you try and use it without the internet. LOL, fail Microsoft [:twisted wrote:
Why does it suddenly need internet 24/7?
to combat against pirated games and mods.
Who cares about piracy? PS4 and XBOXOne games will probably be too big to put on a normal disc anyways. |
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Munin-Frey
Fish Spotters Inc.
2
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:19:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:True Adamance wrote:I'd pay for PS+ membership since it has great benefits. The only reason I don't now is because I've never had to. +1 Agreed. PS3 was my first console since I had absolutely no interest in consoles. Bought it for DUST. Also bought PS+ to maximize my chances of getting in as early as possible, again had no interest in PS+ outside of that. But i have to admit now PS+ is a great deal, I have lots of good title I don't have the time to play - spending a little time in my free copy of Deus Ex Human Revolution right now. Playe the original but never would have bought the sequal. Anyway, I've more than got my money back fom PS+.
Same here +1
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Leviticus Krauthammer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:19:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Says you need ps plus subscription for multi play. Not online play.
Ie. hand your buddy your game. If you both have ps+ you can both play the same game simultaneously online. You will have installed it - he will play from the disc.
That's what I've gathered from everything anyway. Being able to lend your game without losin the ability to play it. Seems cool.
I have yet to see anything that says ps+ is required for online play.
Also this doesn't apply to dust. Physical disc copies only.
Thank you for posting the correct answer sir. |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
347
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:22:00 -
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Leviticus Krauthammer wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Says you need ps plus subscription for multi play. Not online play.
Ie. hand your buddy your game. If you both have ps+ you can both play the same game simultaneously online. You will have installed it - he will play from the disc.
That's what I've gathered from everything anyway. Being able to lend your game without losin the ability to play it. Seems cool.
I have yet to see anything that says ps+ is required for online play.
Also this doesn't apply to dust. Physical disc copies only. Thank you for posting the correct answer sir.
yeh lol, this isw old news for anyone paying attention a year ago when it was leaked ( purposefully most likely to get a feel for reaction) |
Sonicshadow006
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:26:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Leviticus Krauthammer wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Says you need ps plus subscription for multi play. Not online play.
Ie. hand your buddy your game. If you both have ps+ you can both play the same game simultaneously online. You will have installed it - he will play from the disc.
That's what I've gathered from everything anyway. Being able to lend your game without losin the ability to play it. Seems cool.
I have yet to see anything that says ps+ is required for online play.
Also this doesn't apply to dust. Physical disc copies only. Thank you for posting the correct answer sir. yeh lol, this isw old news for anyone paying attention a year ago when it was leaked ( purposefully most likely to get a feel for reaction)
You can install games onto your HDD?!!? |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
126
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:32:00 -
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Sonicshadow006 wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Sonicshadow006 wrote:calisk galern it only bricks if you try and use it without the internet. LOL, fail Microsoft [:twisted wrote:
Why does it suddenly need internet 24/7?
to combat against pirated games and mods. Who cares about piracy? PS4 and XBOXOne games will probably be too big to put on a normal disc anyways.
to combat against pirated media games and mods.
It's not really about games. It's about controlling consumption of all media, especially films and TV streaming. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
571
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:35:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Cosgar wrote: If the PS4 can handle Carbon... all of my money, CCP. After I pay for PS+ of course...
Check out the PS4's hardware man. It CAN handle Carbon! Now on to the 2 and a half year wait... Y'know....they didn't throw that code in the garbage.....and Unreal 3 for the PS3 was a last-minute adapt-or-die adoption.
If I was running the show the UR3/PS3 thing would be a training exercise for the real deal. Assets would be developed with that in mind.
Ultimately, if DUST mercs and EVE goolappers are ever going to....mingle....surely they'll hve to be doing it in the same graphics engine bed, so to speak. In carbon, it would be teh sex.
So i'm laying my bets now. Carbon for PS4. When i don't know, but CCP are sneaky-sneaky when it comes to these things. |
Denak Kalamari
BurgezzE.T.F
181
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:35:00 -
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The whole video is meant to mock at Microsoft's game trading shenanigans, why would you believe that based on a parody video PS4 requires PS+ for playing multiplayer?
At least until the console actually launches, jeez. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
549
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Posted - 2013.06.11 14:48:00 -
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Two thoughts...
1) The PS4 guy mentioned that single player games don't require a (shared) ps+ subscription.
2) Who are some of you guys? Are you paid by Micro$oft to trash the PS4? If not, you are giving your work away for free.
Seriously, it's clear that online services costs money and that it takes money to scale them as customers jump on board. I have no problem paying a minimal fee these days -- though when originally launched years ago it was different. The world has changed. The net is the way things are going and we all know that, now. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
622
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:10:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Says you need ps plus subscription for multi play. Not online play.
Ie. hand your buddy your game. If you both have ps+ you can both play the same game simultaneously online. You will have installed it - he will play from the disc.
That's what I've gathered from everything anyway. Being able to lend your game without losin the ability to play it. Seems cool.
I have yet to see anything that says ps+ is required for online play.
Also this doesn't apply to dust. Physical disc copies only.
Theres no point explaining this stuff.
They won't get it. |
Pent'noir
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
110
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:20:00 -
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I don't like monthly bills, even small ones. Too bad there isn't an option to plaster my tv with banner ads because I'd rather deal with the ads then pay another monthly bill. |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
550
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:21:00 -
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Pent'noir wrote:I don't like monthly bills, even small ones. Too bad there isn't an option to plaster my tv with banner ads because I'd rather deal with the ads then pay another monthly bill.
Pay once a year... buy yourself a Christmas present if nobody else will. |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
113
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:25:00 -
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Do we have CCP confromation that Dust514 will be a Ps4 title?
PS+ subscription...oh dam edam. thats half a days wages for a years sub right? |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
390
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:28:00 -
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Sonicshadow006 wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Sonicshadow006 wrote:calisk galern it only bricks if you try and use it without the internet. LOL, fail Microsoft [:twisted wrote:
Why does it suddenly need internet 24/7?
to combat against pirated games and mods. Who cares about piracy? PS4 and XBOXOne games will probably be too big to put on a normal disc anyways.
I think the BL is up to about 60 GB |
LXicon
Ill Omens EoN.
108
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:30:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Imp Smash wrote:Says you need ps plus subscription for multi play. Not online play.
Ie. hand your buddy your game. If you both have ps+ you can both play the same game simultaneously online. You will have installed it - he will play from the disc.
That's what I've gathered from everything anyway. Being able to lend your game without losin the ability to play it. Seems cool.
I have yet to see anything that says ps+ is required for online play.
Also this doesn't apply to dust. Physical disc copies only. They announced this months ago, an exec leaked it. If you purchase any second hand game you will be required to pay for + to have online content or you will have tp pay an unlock fee for the game.
i'm still waiting for an official statement regarding access to normal multiplayer for new games like we are currently getting for free. the OP's video is about shared games and the arstechnica screen shot is about what you get with PS+. is "immersive multiplayer" the cross game chat?
i would really like a quote or source that actually says something like "if you buy a new online FPS for PS4, you'll need PS+ to play it online", not "multi play"Gäó not "immersive multiplayer"Gäó. if someone comes across such a source today please reply back here. i'll be keeping my eyes out for one as well. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
758
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:30:00 -
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I actually dont care.
Shocking I know.
You still get the PS+ Benefits (17 Games a year, discounts, Betas .etc) Its not like you're just getting online.
Although, with this extra money, I hope Sony put it towards securing PSN (Dont want a repeat of last year), increases PS4 download speed, I get 1.5mb/s on Steam (A free service) and around an average of 500mb/s (Sometimes worse) on PS3.
And one last thing, I really hope once one person in a household or one account on the PS4 has PS+, every account or member of the household get to go online, anything else is a huge rip-off.
(I also hope the PS4 comes bundled with a year or even a month of PS+, just because I want it to ) |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:30:00 -
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What I want to know is if when PS4 comes out, does PS3 multiplayer gaming have to be subscription based as well.
You only pay one subscription fee for gaming on all platforms (PS4, PS3, Vita) but if you go the next 3-5 years on only PS3, can you remain with free multiplayer???
hmmmmm
Also are Publishers going to keep their online passes etc on Sony titles since Sony is allowing used games. Interesting times ahead.
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Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
8
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:33:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote:You're assuming that Dust will make it to PS4.
Dust is dead if it doesn't. There won't be enough people playing this game to support CCP finances by the time PS4 starts kicking up a player base.
If the rumor is true, then Sony invited CCP to come let an idea die.
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Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
758
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:33:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:What I want to know is if when PS4 comes out, does PS3 multiplayer gaming have to be subscription based as well.
You only pay one subscription fee for gaming on all platforms (PS4, PS3, Vita) but if you go the next 3-5 years on only PS3, can you remain with free multiplayer???
hmmmmm
Also are Publishers going to keep their online passes etc on Sony titles since Sony is allowing used games. Interesting times ahead.
I assume they will.
Sony allowing used games was Sony's choice, and only their choice.
Although, this could be the end of the Online Pass in Sony published games..... hopefully..... |
Hayden Reed
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:37:00 -
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Most of the people complaining about an online fee, which is less than a pack of cigarettes, have already shelled out how much on this game? What do you have to show for that? At least you get all the free games and other perks with your minimal monthly payment to ps+. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2650
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:41:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:Allah's Snackbar wrote:You're assuming that Dust will make it to PS4. The funny thing is it will be. Read it up before you post
I think it will be a couple of years before CCP decides to create one for the PS4 so they can be able to polish the PS3 version first. Besides, even with the $399 price tag, a lot of people are still going to hold off on buying the PS4 due to recent experience such as defective power cords, yellow light of death, and other problems you tend to see with the first batch of models being sold. In other words, the initial buyers become beta testers. |
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