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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.11 12:13:00 -
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Welp! Today is the day to see if all the tight lips and skirted questions were worth it. If not, communication should be upped to the levels of hit detection and invisible walls when discussing what's wrong with Dust 514... |
steadyhand amarr
Amarr Immortal Volunteers
684
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Posted - 2013.06.11 12:38:00 -
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People only ever log onto foums to troll or complain out of 7000 per hour players. I recognize most people who post on here much means the rest are happly playing :-). I run into new players all the time that love this game....just wish they would stay out of fw :-P but most people are happy just need smooth out the cliff a little |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3491
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Posted - 2013.06.11 12:43:00 -
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XtoTheS wrote:I am sick and tired of all of your complaints.
X
P.S.
CCP is new to this world of gaming. They have spent a decade building a great game in EVE and no other company has been able to compete with them on that level. There are new games in development for the new consoles but I doubt they will be able to be on the level Eve is. Give CCP some time to find their niche and find their level of greatness with Dust 514. A lot of the current game developers that keep putting out games like COD and BF2 and now PS2 have had decades of experience in first person shooters or the like of them. They are listening to us and if you would take the time to go sit in the IRC chat you will see them interacting with the users and asking for feedback on new posts. They don't always have the time to constantly be interacting because they are there working and improving on the game. If you do not support this game and support the developers and each other, this game will not rise to the top. Get on the band wagon and stay on, in fact dont get on the band wagon get on the game and play and continue to provide constructive feedback and stop complaining about how the game is not going anywhere.
If you can not handle the game and the direction its going and the time it is taking. Go make your own game or go play another sell out game like bf2 or cod.
DUST needs to be on PS4 to compete.
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martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
181
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Posted - 2013.06.11 12:54:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Welp! Today is the day to see if all the tight lips and skirted questions were worth it. If not, communication should be upped to the levels of hit detection and invisible walls when discussing what's wrong with Dust 514...
Totally agree with that. E3 open in a few hours, we will see then. But for not, I feel bad when looking at their preview video (2). It all old stuff from 6-8 month. How the hell do you go to E3 to present old stuff. I just hope the marketing will make it shine a little more than that. And present other things than stuff like PvE which isn't in the game right now, making false advertising.
The level of invisible walls and hit detection issue is really high by the way, not sure they can raise communication to that level before a while .
I'll be patient, anyway, I got a tons of stuff to do other than play right now, so I guess timing is good for me. |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
117
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Posted - 2013.06.11 13:37:00 -
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I don't have 10 years to wait for a game that is already on the market to get good. I doubt SOE does either. The game may be F2P, but this is still a profitable business. If they (CCP) can't convince you to convert your money into PSN funds, the relationship will be short-lived.
Kids....
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CCPs Incompetency
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:04:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:How many more times are people going to defend with, "Why you still here." You really can't think of any reason at all? Social out-casts much?
It's cool though - keep your faith. It's done us all real well so far. Uprising was such a HUGE success and PC is such GREAT fun. Not a single corp is dropping out of PC because it's lame and no one is quitting dust. Large alliances aren't getting steam rolled by a few elites and everyone gets to enjoy this game fully!
Don't you love CCP? Launched a game where heavies only have 1 variant. LAV's run amok killing all - tanks and DS are worthless unless they luck out with no AV on the other side *Pets his Proto forge* TAR used to be OP and now it's trash. Most guns bullets can preform magic and disappear. Installations have better accuracy then you do. Terrain likes to pretend it's quicksand and going up hills that should be cake turn into nightmare fighting your way out of it. Logi's are the 'do all class' instead of support. Getting SP per week is a slow long grind with no word of the roll-over system we voted for back in january. All of this - is intended by CCP.
Yay CCP! You can do no wrong! Faith for all!
Blind faith for all, as this is the Only FPS CCP has and may ever make. |
Dante Kretschmer
D3LTA ACADEMY
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:02:00 -
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CCP is working on it, why do kou need more? Is not like they're delaying things purposedly. It's not like they wouldn't want to solve everything in one blow. And definetly it's not like they're not working on it. Software development takes time, more than what you think. And in a game as technically challenging as DUST is, i would assume it takes a while longer. We all want to have a better game. Even devs do.
If I were a developer I wouldn't handcuff myself giving deadlines either. Who knows when will Murphy strike, and when he does, flames of uproar will engulf the forums because CCP will have failed its customers.
A list of things being worked on, that would be great to have. And an idea of when to expect the next major patch. But to have half the forum crying and angering because there are no news on *whatever*... oh well. You get the idea. And btw, it sure makes a bad impression to newbies in the forums
Patience, Anakin. Patience. |
XtoTheS
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:39:00 -
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Dante Kretschmer wrote:CCP is working on it, why do kou need more? Is not like they're delaying things purposedly. It's not like they wouldn't want to solve everything in one blow. And definetly it's not like they're not working on it. Software development takes time, more than what you think. And in a game as technically challenging as DUST is, i would assume it takes a while longer. We all want to have a better game. Even devs do.
If I were a developer I wouldn't handcuff myself giving deadlines either. Who knows when will Murphy strike, and when he does, flames of uproar will engulf the forums because CCP will have failed its customers.
A list of things being worked on, that would be great to have. And an idea of when to expect the next major patch. But to have half the forum crying and angering because there are no news on *whatever*... oh well. You get the idea. And btw, it sure makes a bad impression to newbies in the forums
Patience, Anakin. Patience.
There are a lot of people out there who know it all.. sadly.
There are a lot of people out there who knows what it takes, are not standing up, sadly.
There are a lot of people out there who love the game and are scared to stand up for it, sadly.
And there are the people who do not know how to constructively put together a good point when needed.
That goes for the people who dislike/hate the game, sadly.
We will be around when the game starts to see its full potential while the other people who gave up will be playing the same battlefield games as before dust.
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Justin Tymes
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
147
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Posted - 2013.06.12 06:04:00 -
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XtoTheS wrote:Dante Kretschmer wrote:CCP is working on it, why do kou need more? Is not like they're delaying things purposedly. It's not like they wouldn't want to solve everything in one blow. And definetly it's not like they're not working on it. Software development takes time, more than what you think. And in a game as technically challenging as DUST is, i would assume it takes a while longer. We all want to have a better game. Even devs do.
If I were a developer I wouldn't handcuff myself giving deadlines either. Who knows when will Murphy strike, and when he does, flames of uproar will engulf the forums because CCP will have failed its customers.
A list of things being worked on, that would be great to have. And an idea of when to expect the next major patch. But to have half the forum crying and angering because there are no news on *whatever*... oh well. You get the idea. And btw, it sure makes a bad impression to newbies in the forums
Patience, Anakin. Patience. There are a lot of people out there who know it all.. sadly. There are a lot of people out there who knows what it takes, are not standing up, sadly. There are a lot of people out there who love the game and are scared to stand up for it, sadly. And there are the people who do not know how to constructively put together a good point when needed. That goes for the people who dislike/hate the game, sadly. We will be around when the game starts to see its full potential while the other people who gave up will be playing the same battlefield games as before dust.
Don't tell me you're implying that the people who don't like Dust aren't justified. There are plenty of reasons not to like this game right now, and there were plenty of suggestions on the forums to make some of those reasons decrease that were ignored. |
XtoTheS
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2013.06.12 07:21:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:XtoTheS wrote:Dante Kretschmer wrote:CCP is working on it, why do kou need more? Is not like they're delaying things purposedly. It's not like they wouldn't want to solve everything in one blow. And definetly it's not like they're not working on it. Software development takes time, more than what you think. And in a game as technically challenging as DUST is, i would assume it takes a while longer. We all want to have a better game. Even devs do.
If I were a developer I wouldn't handcuff myself giving deadlines either. Who knows when will Murphy strike, and when he does, flames of uproar will engulf the forums because CCP will have failed its customers.
A list of things being worked on, that would be great to have. And an idea of when to expect the next major patch. But to have half the forum crying and angering because there are no news on *whatever*... oh well. You get the idea. And btw, it sure makes a bad impression to newbies in the forums
Patience, Anakin. Patience. There are a lot of people out there who know it all.. sadly. There are a lot of people out there who knows what it takes, are not standing up, sadly. There are a lot of people out there who love the game and are scared to stand up for it, sadly. And there are the people who do not know how to constructively put together a good point when needed. That goes for the people who dislike/hate the game, sadly. We will be around when the game starts to see its full potential while the other people who gave up will be playing the same battlefield games as before dust. Don't tell me you're implying that the people who don't like Dust aren't justified. There are plenty of reasons not to like this game right now, and there were plenty of suggestions on the forums to make some of those reasons decrease that were ignored.
they are justified, they have gotten their answers, which is no answer to their problems they see. They are giving up on CCP based on their actions on the boards. They come here and whine and more than likely go on an alt to play. Just a hunch. But you can see it the way you want. They could be justified or they may not be justified. They just need to pull it together and complain in a more acceptable manner.. "hey I believe this is how it should be fixed" etc instead of "blah blah eff this that him her and this game". Also there are so many people playing this game and giving their feedback, either be forums, opening a ticket or via IRC. They are looking at these issues and there is A LOT going on in the game development world right now. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1384
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Posted - 2013.06.12 10:02:00 -
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After all that time in beta, the last things we should have had to worry about on release were memory leaks, hit detection, broken aiming mechanics, and weapon balance. Uprising was 2 steps backwards for everything and we all know it. |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
153
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Posted - 2013.06.12 10:04:00 -
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I wonder why this thread hasn't been closed as a rant? |
Onesimus Tarsus
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
344
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Posted - 2013.06.12 11:56:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote:I wonder why this thread hasn't been closed as a rant?
I'll clear that up for ya. There's a sufficient amount of "it's the players' fault" and "forum posters are whiny babies" quotes. CCP doesn't mind rants, as long as the rants are us taking it out on us, instead of taking it out on the ones trying desperately to bilk money out of a B shooter whose greatest claim to fame is not even marginally developed yet. |
Nephiliel
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
10
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Posted - 2013.06.12 12:11:00 -
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I am patient, and not complaining. Just want respec and some updates, and the Mass driver bugs fixed . The future excites me, this is a F2P game, people act like its paid or something |
I VOTED FOR-KODOS
Absentee AFK Regiment
9
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Posted - 2013.06.12 13:22:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:How many more times are people going to defend with, "Why you still here." You really can't think of any reason at all? Social out-casts much?
It's cool though - keep your faith. It's done us all real well so far. Uprising was such a HUGE success and PC is such GREAT fun. Not a single corp is dropping out of PC because it's lame and no one is quitting dust. Large alliances aren't getting steam rolled by a few elites and everyone gets to enjoy this game fully!
Don't you love CCP? Launched a game where heavies only have 1 variant. LAV's run amok killing all - tanks and DS are worthless unless they luck out with no AV on the other side *Pets his Proto forge* TAR used to be OP and now it's trash. Most guns bullets can preform magic and disappear. Installations have better accuracy then you do. Terrain likes to pretend it's quicksand and going up hills that should be cake turn into nightmare fighting your way out of it. Logi's are the 'do all class' instead of support. Getting SP per week is a slow long grind with no word of the roll-over system we voted for back in january. All of this - is intended by CCP.
Yay CCP! You can do no wrong! Faith for all!
Because deflecting with ad-hominems and sarcasm is the way to go. I can see it appeals to the lowest common denominator though. Again, just put up or shut up. |
Chinduko
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
187
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:57:00 -
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The Beta started a year ago and the game remains broken today. CCP has had plenty of time to do whatever it was they needed to do before release. The BF and COD developers may develop game after game and may feel the same to some but they balance their games well. If CCP has such trouble with balance and other issues, they should have used the experience of BF and COD mechanics then create their connection with EVE and other innovative aspects from there. CCP made the mistake. CCP is lucky that some players are hopeful in fixes and don't mind playing a broken game for a little longer.
When FFXIV created a broken online game, they brought in all new help. Maybe CCP should do the same. |
XtoTheS
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:51:00 -
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Chinduko wrote:The Beta started a year ago and the game remains broken today. CCP has had plenty of time to do whatever it was they needed to do before release. The BF and COD developers may develop game after game and may feel the same to some but they balance their games well. If CCP has such trouble with balance and other issues, they should have used the experience of BF and COD mechanics then create their connection with EVE and other innovative aspects from there. CCP made the mistake. CCP is lucky that some players are hopeful in fixes and don't mind playing a broken game for a little longer.
When FFXIV created a broken online game, they brought in all new help. Maybe CCP should do the same.
I am pretty sure that they are looking into every possibility they can. It has also been brought to me that CCP did hire some folks from DICE. But as far as I know, they are not the experts on a FPS. They may have just dealt with code and some developing. They use a completely different engine, their own. But Unreal is a widely used game engine and I am sure there are a lot of things they can implement easily in a sense if it has been done on other games that use the same engine. I am not expert on game development so please bare with my general comments on that. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2560
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Posted - 2013.06.13 09:00:00 -
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I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:How many more times are people going to defend with, "Why you still here." You really can't think of any reason at all? Social out-casts much?
It's cool though - keep your faith. It's done us all real well so far. Uprising was such a HUGE success and PC is such GREAT fun. Not a single corp is dropping out of PC because it's lame and no one is quitting dust. Large alliances aren't getting steam rolled by a few elites and everyone gets to enjoy this game fully!
Don't you love CCP? Launched a game where heavies only have 1 variant. LAV's run amok killing all - tanks and DS are worthless unless they luck out with no AV on the other side *Pets his Proto forge* TAR used to be OP and now it's trash. Most guns bullets can preform magic and disappear. Installations have better accuracy then you do. Terrain likes to pretend it's quicksand and going up hills that should be cake turn into nightmare fighting your way out of it. Logi's are the 'do all class' instead of support. Getting SP per week is a slow long grind with no word of the roll-over system we voted for back in january. All of this - is intended by CCP.
Yay CCP! You can do no wrong! Faith for all!
Because deflecting with ad-hominems and sarcasm is the way to go. I can see it appeals to the lowest common denominator though. Again, just put up or shut up. Care to buy me a ticket to that dream land you and every CCP fanboy resides in?
I've tried to help for over a year - I used to be all over the heavy subject. All of it - from me to everyone I know - got ignored by CCP. Heavies are now nearly trash and if we don't get place-holder racial next update there's going to be hell to pay.
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XtoTheS
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2013.06.13 09:03:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:How many more times are people going to defend with, "Why you still here." You really can't think of any reason at all? Social out-casts much?
It's cool though - keep your faith. It's done us all real well so far. Uprising was such a HUGE success and PC is such GREAT fun. Not a single corp is dropping out of PC because it's lame and no one is quitting dust. Large alliances aren't getting steam rolled by a few elites and everyone gets to enjoy this game fully!
Don't you love CCP? Launched a game where heavies only have 1 variant. LAV's run amok killing all - tanks and DS are worthless unless they luck out with no AV on the other side *Pets his Proto forge* TAR used to be OP and now it's trash. Most guns bullets can preform magic and disappear. Installations have better accuracy then you do. Terrain likes to pretend it's quicksand and going up hills that should be cake turn into nightmare fighting your way out of it. Logi's are the 'do all class' instead of support. Getting SP per week is a slow long grind with no word of the roll-over system we voted for back in january. All of this - is intended by CCP.
Yay CCP! You can do no wrong! Faith for all!
Because deflecting with ad-hominems and sarcasm is the way to go. I can see it appeals to the lowest common denominator though. Again, just put up or shut up. Care to buy me a ticket to that dream land you and every CCP fanboy resides in? I've tried to help for over a year - I used to be all over the heavy subject. All of it - from me to everyone I know - got ignored by CCP. Heavies are now nearly trash and if we don't get place-holder racial next update there's going to be hell to pay.
That I can agree with. They had seriously neglected the heavy and made it worse. But I still run my heavy because its a status I like to hold. I am a true heavy fit player. But They do need to make some changes and bring back some of the old fits like the armor fit and the shield fit. I liked running with both depending on what I was doing. Now I just have to deal with it being balanced evenly.
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