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SENATOR KODOS Intara Direct Action Caldari State 123	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:36:00 - [1] - Quote 1 million cap. Tier 1 1-3 million sp cap. Tier 2 3-5 million cap. Tier 3 Etc. Im not complaining but im talking about your average gamer who wont stay in this game long enough to continually be stomped by high SP players. WIth this post I think I have made myself easily the best choice for CPM. Donation and thoughts are welcome.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 244	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:38:00 - [2] - Quote No they need to implement any kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). That would instantly reduce pubstomping.
SENATOR KODOS Intara Direct Action Caldari State 124	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:39:00 - [3] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: No they need to implement some kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). Ya same thing. Matchmaking based on SP limits.
GLiMPSE X IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 123	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:39:00 - [4] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: 1 million cap. Tier 1 1-3 million sp cap. Tier 2 3-5 million cap. Tier 3 Etc. Im not complaining but im talking about your average gamer who wont stay in this game long enough to continually be stomped by high SP players. WIth this post I think I have made myself easily the best choice for CPM. Donation and thoughts are welcome. There needs to be some form of matchmaking or at least teiring. I proposed a few weeks back that we implement something based on rewards with these tiered caps. IE: you could play in tier 1 with 10 mil sp, but the rewards would be significantly worse (sp gain would be 0 if playing in a lower tier) then what you could get if you played in your proper tier. I don't think hard restricting is the way to go as it makes things feel very rigid and removes player choice.
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 300	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:40:00 - [5] - Quote remove the SP cap
Somin Krais Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 76	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:40:00 - [6] - Quote SP wouldn't be the problem. It isn't a problem in EVE. All it does it limit a new player from flying circles around JIta in a Titan. As for Dust, the equivalent would be a new player sporting officer gear. EVE has plenty of things to offer people of varying SP grades. Dust is working on that.
I VOTED FOR-KODOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:40:00 - [7] - Quote PEWPEWPEW
Sev Alcatraz The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 270	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:40:00 - [8] - Quote Im only here because the title was funny
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 244	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:41:00 - [9] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: No they need to implement some kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). Ya same thing. Matchmaking based on SP limits. I think it should be based off of more then just SP. The factors should be WP, SP, and time played (Since there is passive SP).
hooc order Deep Space Republic 296	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:42:00 - [10] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: No they need to implement any kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). That would instantly reduce pubstomping. I am pretty sure his post is a proposal for a matchmaking system.

SENATOR KODOS Intara Direct Action Caldari State 124	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:42:00 - [11] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: remove the SP cap Also this. Or it should be diff for players wiht higher SP. The higher you are the less you accumulate SP to give the community a chance to catch up or that might be a dumb idea I dont know.
SENATOR KODOS Intara Direct Action Caldari State 124	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:43:00 - [12] - Quote I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote: PEWPEWPEW PEW PEW (get stuck on a ledge bounce up and down trying to aim) PEW PEW RAAAARGH
SENATOR KODOS Intara Direct Action Caldari State 124	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:44:00 - [13] - Quote hooc order wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: No they need to implement any kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). That would instantly reduce pubstomping. I am pretty sure his post is a proposal for a matchmaking system. Ya it is I just didnt word it that well.
I VOTED FOR-KODOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:46:00 - [14] - Quote Barebones mode have a domination game type where only militia starter kits are available. No free LAVS. only downside is that the vet scrubs who are carried by their sp gap would never show which sucks because they make up a majority of the player base
I VOTED FOR-KODOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:47:00 - [15] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote: PEWPEWPEW PEW PEW (get stuck on a ledge bounce up and down trying to aim) PEW PEW RAAAARGH its like an earthquake or michael j fox mode when i ads
SENATOR KODOS Intara Direct Action Caldari State 128	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:52:00 - [16] - Quote I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote: PEWPEWPEW PEW PEW (get stuck on a ledge bounce up and down trying to aim) PEW PEW RAAAARGH its like an earthquake or michael j fox mode when i ads LOL.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 251	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:58:00 - [17] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: hooc order wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: No they need to implement any kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). That would instantly reduce pubstomping. I am pretty sure his post is a proposal for a matchmaking system. Ya it is I just didnt word it that well. No I was really trying to say that it shouldn't be based off of just SP. If anything I worded my post wrong and for that i'm sorry.
Somin Krais Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 77	Posted - 2013.06.10 22:58:00 - [18] - Quote I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote: PEWPEWPEW PEW PEW (get stuck on a ledge bounce up and down trying to aim) PEW PEW RAAAARGH its like an earthquake or michael j fox mode when i ads I want to laugh but I know if I do, I'll lose karma and I'll probably get Parkinson's. So, uh.. that wasn't funny. At all.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 388	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:00:00 - [19] - Quote Meta restriction based on sec status. Higher the security status the lower the total meta for the suit and let us choose the system we want.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 342	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:01:00 - [20] - Quote I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote: Barebones mode have a domination game type where only militia starter kits are available. No free LAVS. only downside is that the vet scrubs who are carried by their sp gap would never show which sucks because they make up a majority of the player base What are you talking about? Those guys are the Kings of Militia Fits. At least the ones who went core skills rather than straight into dropsuit/weapon crutches.

Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 251	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:03:00 - [21] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Meta restriction based on sec status. Higher the security status the lower the total meta for the suit and let us choose the system we want. But the thing about that is I don't think CCP can do that... Well they probably can but it would most likely make it that we never se a full match of players ever again unless it's organized beforehand. Also someone with core skills maxed will always have the advantage then.
SENATOR KODOS Intara Direct Action Caldari State 129	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:03:00 - [22] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: hooc order wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: No they need to implement any kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). That would instantly reduce pubstomping. I am pretty sure his post is a proposal for a matchmaking system. Ya it is I just didnt word it that well. No I was really trying to say that it shouldn't be based off of just SP. If anything I worded my post wrong and for that i'm sorry. Im getting good feelings from talking to you. We should move in together.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1291	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:04:00 - [23] - Quote When CCP announced that matchmaking wasn't a priority they put another nail in this game's coffin. Without matchmaking Dust 514 will wind up like the fighting game market after the 90's, before SFIV...
SENATOR KODOS Intara Direct Action Caldari State 129	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:05:00 - [24] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote: Barebones mode have a domination game type where only militia starter kits are available. No free LAVS. only downside is that the vet scrubs who are carried by their sp gap would never show which sucks because they make up a majority of the player base What are you talking about? Those guys are the Kings of Militia Fits. At least the ones who went core skills rather than straight into dropsuit/weapon crutches. So me going str8 into GEK and Medium 3 is a bad idea in the academy>?
Anita Hardone Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 96	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:06:00 - [25] - Quote Well no, if you could stay in Academy forever i guess it would work... but its not a long stay. SENATOR KODOS wrote: 1 million cap. Tier 1 1-3 million sp cap. Tier 2 3-5 million cap. Tier 3 Etc. Im not complaining but im talking about your average gamer who wont stay in this game long enough to continually be stomped by high SP players. WIth this post I think I have made myself easily the best choice for CPM. Donation and thoughts are welcome. What about those like me who are 10 million+ SP? Are we considered gods? Did you even know it could go that high?
I VOTED FOR-KODOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:07:00 - [26] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote: Barebones mode have a domination game type where only militia starter kits are available. No free LAVS. only downside is that the vet scrubs who are carried by their sp gap would never show which sucks because they make up a majority of the player base What are you talking about? Those guys are the Kings of Militia Fits. At least the ones who went core skills rather than straight into dropsuit/weapon crutches. Good, maybe they can help evolve and change this idea to eventually push it to make it happen then.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 251	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:08:00 - [27] - Quote Anita Hardone wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: 1 million cap. Tier 1 1-3 million sp cap. Tier 2 3-5 million cap. Tier 3 Etc. Im not complaining but im talking about your average gamer who wont stay in this game long enough to continually be stomped by high SP players. WIth this post I think I have made myself easily the best choice for CPM. Donation and thoughts are welcome. What about those like me who are 10 million+ SP? Are we considered gods? Did you even know it could go that high? Did you not notice the ETC.?
SENATOR KODOS Intara Direct Action Caldari State 129	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:08:00 - [28] - Quote Anita Hardone wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: 1 million cap. Tier 1 1-3 million sp cap. Tier 2 3-5 million cap. Tier 3 Etc. Im not complaining but im talking about your average gamer who wont stay in this game long enough to continually be stomped by high SP players. WIth this post I think I have made myself easily the best choice for CPM. Donation and thoughts are welcome. What about those like me who are 10 million+ SP? Are we considered gods? Did you even know it could go that high? Im gonna say yes. As far as me vs you is concerned you are a god to my 1 mil SP outfit. All hail Anita !!!!!!!!!!
I VOTED FOR-KODOS Kinsho Swords Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:08:00 - [29] - Quote Anita Hardone wrote: Well no, if you could stay in Academy forever i guess it would work... but its not a long stay. SENATOR KODOS wrote: 1 million cap. Tier 1 1-3 million sp cap. Tier 2 3-5 million cap. Tier 3 Etc. Im not complaining but im talking about your average gamer who wont stay in this game long enough to continually be stomped by high SP players. WIth this post I think I have made myself easily the best choice for CPM. Donation and thoughts are welcome. What about those like me who are 10 million+ SP? Are we considered gods? Did you even know it could go that high? hence "etc"
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 251	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:09:00 - [30] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote: Barebones mode have a domination game type where only militia starter kits are available. No free LAVS. only downside is that the vet scrubs who are carried by their sp gap would never show which sucks because they make up a majority of the player base What are you talking about? Those guys are the Kings of Militia Fits. At least the ones who went core skills rather than straight into dropsuit/weapon crutches. So me going str8 into GEK and Medium 3 is a bad idea in the academy>? You can usually get the GEK pretty quickly but yes core skill > High tier weapons/modules.

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 342	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:11:00 - [31] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote: Barebones mode have a domination game type where only militia starter kits are available. No free LAVS. only downside is that the vet scrubs who are carried by their sp gap would never show which sucks because they make up a majority of the player base What are you talking about? Those guys are the Kings of Militia Fits. At least the ones who went core skills rather than straight into dropsuit/weapon crutches. So me going str8 into GEK and Medium 3 is a bad idea in the academy>? Nah, that isn't too bad, though I'd go fill out the rest of my core skills before going any deeper into dropsuits or weapons. You'll be better off in the long run.
TEBOW BAGGINS Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 600	Posted - 2013.06.10 23:14:00 - [32] - Quote they can make a new alt and stay in battle academy, this isnt WoW
Mobias Wyvern Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2013.07.06 09:41:00 - [33] - Quote Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year 1080p Ultra settings at Night Intense Open Field Battle 100 Man Infantry Objective Push Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Planetside 2 Machinima Factions Explained Why you should Play Planetside 2 From Vets
GET ATMESON NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate 12	Posted - 2013.07.06 10:47:00 - [34] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: No they need to implement some kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). Ya same thing. Matchmaking based on SP limits. Any IDEA HOW STUPID THAT IS??? Me to are new guy "Hey new guy. Your squad lead now put us in a battle" Thinking : HAHAHA playing 2Mill sp or below players now with 15mill sp. Easy ISK If CCP were to do this it would be worse for you. Dont like to be pubstomped join a better group of players & better yet get better at the game. Wait CCP do this idea. Wouldn't mind showing this guy its a bad idea. Good idea but It cant happen. There isnt anyway for them to find out total SP of a party of 6 then match it to +/- another groups sp. What if i had 1 guy with 10Mill sp and you had a group of 6 with a total of 2Mill sp per player. Guess what your total SP is +2Mill sp. Your going to end up going against him. Not to say he wont Sync with his buddy so they both hit battle at the same time. Now your player 2 players with 10Mill sp. NOO WAY They will have PvE for players to train instead of just Pvp later on.
SENATOR KODOS Absentee AFK Regiment 228	Posted - 2013.07.06 10:49:00 - [35] - Quote GET ATMESON wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: No they need to implement some kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). Ya same thing. Matchmaking based on SP limits. Any IDEA HOW STUPID THAT IS??? Me to are new guy "Hey new guy. Your squad lead now put us in a battle" Thinking : HAHAHA playing 2Mill sp or below players now with 15mill sp. Easy ISK If CCP were to do this it would be worse for you. Dont like to be pubstomped join a better group of players & better yet get better at the game. Wait CCP do this idea. Wouldn't mind showing this guy its a bad idea. Good idea but It cant happen. There isnt anyway for them to find out total SP of a party of 6 then match it to +/- another groups sp. What if i had 1 guy with 10Mill sp and you had a group of 6 with a total of 2Mill sp per player. Guess what your total SP is +2Mill sp. Your going to end up going against him. Not to say he wont Sync with his buddy so they both hit battle at the same time. Now your player 2 players with 10Mill sp. NOO WAY They will have PvE for players to train instead of just Pvp later on. Not sure if serious or......
Sotapopthegrey gay Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 25	Posted - 2013.07.06 10:54:00 - [36] - Quote Make all gun type have the same damage but give thee upper tier weapons bonus i.e. 5 percent reload.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3072	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:06:00 - [37] - Quote OP, your idea is not going to be accepted by CCP. However, matchmaking is the perfect solution.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 945	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:15:00 - [38] - Quote I think it would be a lot less complicated to have a "you must be this tall for this ride" qualification system that let's you into higher payout battles. Integrate it into the game in a good way, such as paying for the privilege to unlock the higher paying choices via travel or merc attainment status, so that people can opt-in to get stomped if they want to and we're good. Better players won't want to waste their time in low pay/reward zones. No complex algorithm to figure out how to match people optimally. It's only the new players that need to be protected... it's not like vets won't be happy to mow them down if they decide to show their suits in higher risk/reward matches.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4446	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:54:00 - [39] - Quote We need game types, but CCP doesn't actually have any idea how to make them :/ Matchmaking is going to **** people who aren't terrible and want to roll solo. While I want a matchmaking system, if you're any good at all, you will no longer be allowed to play by yourself if you don't want to get stomped. We need game modes, but CCP considers taking a year to program skirmish with one objective to be progress. So. Yea. Good luck with that.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 949	Posted - 2013.07.06 14:58:00 - [40] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: We need game types, but CCP doesn't actually have any idea how to make them :/ Matchmaking is going to **** people who aren't terrible and want to roll solo. While I want a matchmaking system, if you're any good at all, you will no longer be allowed to play by yourself if you don't want to get stomped. We need game modes, but CCP considers taking a year to program skirmish with one objective to be progress. So. Yea. Good luck with that. That's why I like the tiered reward model... no new modes, no real changes at all except to the drop/earn rates. You go to the battle screen and there is a text change to show which reward level (not called that of course) you are in. You can click to choose from those you qualify for. That's it for changes really. Piece of cake compared to a complex matchmaking system or any other non-incentivized behavior modifier.

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4447	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:02:00 - [41] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: That's why I like the tiered reward model... no new modes, no real changes at all except to the drop/earn rates. You go to the battle screen and there is a text change to show which reward level (not called that of course) you are in. You can click to choose from those you qualify for. That's it for changes really. Piece of cake compared to a complex matchmaking system or any other non-incentivized behavior modifier. It won't do anything to curb pubstomps because pubstompers don't play for the ISK. There is nothing to do in DUST, when you get right down to it. A lot of pubstompers are descent, but bad in the face of skilled opponents. They play for tears, not for ISK. You can dangle all the ISK you want in front of them, they'll still be plaguing newberries because that's how they get their kicks. Nothing you do in DUST has any persistence or meaning, your choices aren't worth ****, and your only gameplay options are exactly how you want to shoot the other dude. Boring. It's just boring. Pub stomping will continue, just like AFK. It's not something CCP really cares to fix, and when they do finally get around to it, they'll likely just break it even more while we wait another year for their next "fix"
Cy Clone1 Ill Omens EoN. 60	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:04:00 - [42] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: No they need to implement some kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). Ya same thing. Matchmaking based on SP limits. then don't say put on an sp limit.
JimJones22 Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.07.09 00:21:00 - [43] - Quote SENATOR KODOS wrote: 1 million cap. Tier 1 1-3 million sp cap. Tier 2 3-5 million cap. Tier 3 Etc. Im not complaining but im talking about your average gamer who wont stay in this game long enough to continually be stomped by high SP players. WIth this post I think I have made myself easily the best choice for CPM. Donation and thoughts are welcome. This idea has been kicked around for so long the idea is flat. Basically NOT HAPPENING
SENATOR KODOS Absentee AFK Regiment 255	Posted - 2013.07.09 01:41:00 - [44] - Quote Cy Clone1 wrote: SENATOR KODOS wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: No they need to implement some kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). Ya same thing. Matchmaking based on SP limits. then don't say put on an sp limit. Nah im still gonna say it dork.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 191	Posted - 2013.07.09 01:43:00 - [45] - Quote Make it based on KDR I'd love to see a match with nothing but dropship pilots, or a map where no one take an objective because they are all snipers and tanks.
Albert Farrier Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2013.07.09 06:01:00 - [46] - Quote I can see the issues that can arise with basing it on the KDR, but I still think that it should be a major role in matchmaking. All the sp in the world will do little to keep those who truly suck at the game (me lol) from being totally wiped when going up against more experienced players, regardless of their fittings. I cannot improve my game going up against players who are far more skilled (not in skill points, but actual skill) than I. The true measurement of a players skill is not sp and to truly balance the game it should not be seen as such. I have nearly 3 million sp but my KDR is a paltry 0.45 and going down since the update rendered my heavy useless. Perhaps an SP/WP ratio could also figure into the mix. Someone with more understanding than I have would have to ponder that to see if the idea has any merit. Matchmaking is a must and I personally feel that it shouldn't be based on a measurement that in no way reflects the true skill of the player.
Kiro Justice Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 320	Posted - 2013.07.09 06:02:00 - [47] - Quote We know this already, please use the search function next time.
Albert Farrier Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2013.07.09 06:08:00 - [48] - Quote Kiro Justice wrote: We know this already, please use the search function next time. Forgive me for not reading the entire forum. I simply had a thought while getting stomped, remembered this thread, and decided to respond. If my thought parallels other posts, simply regard this as me agreeing with them.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic Top Men. 70	Posted - 2013.07.09 06:36:00 - [49] - Quote Here is what I would do: Get rid of ambush or ambush oms. Next create a mode of Dom/Skirmish/Ambush that is based on the meta level of gear like a total meta level or meta avg. Either that or complete get rid of instant battles for the above, let those who only wish to pub stomp try doing so in FW or PC. This gives new players a little shelter from all the cruel vets but doesn't prevent it from FW or PC.


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