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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:11:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:I VOTED FOR-KODOS wrote:Barebones mode
have a domination game type where only militia starter kits are available. No free LAVS.
only downside is that the vet scrubs who are carried by their sp gap would never show which sucks because they make up a majority of the player base What are you talking about? Those guys are the Kings of Militia Fits. At least the ones who went core skills rather than straight into dropsuit/weapon crutches. So me going str8 into GEK and Medium 3 is a bad idea in the academy>?
Nah, that isn't too bad, though I'd go fill out the rest of my core skills before going any deeper into dropsuits or weapons. You'll be better off in the long run. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
600
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:14:00 -
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they can make a new alt and stay in battle academy, this isnt WoW |
Mobias Wyvern
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2013.07.06 09:41:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE
The Family Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2013.07.06 10:47:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:No they need to implement some kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). Ya same thing. Matchmaking based on SP limits.
Any IDEA HOW STUPID THAT IS???
Me to are new guy "Hey new guy. Your squad lead now put us in a battle"
Thinking : HAHAHA playing 2Mill sp or below players now with 15mill sp. Easy ISK
If CCP were to do this it would be worse for you.
Dont like to be pubstomped join a better group of players & better yet get better at the game.
Wait CCP do this idea.
Wouldn't mind showing this guy its a bad idea.
Good idea but It cant happen.
There isnt anyway for them to find out total SP of a party of 6 then match it to +/- another groups sp.
What if i had 1 guy with 10Mill sp and you had a group of 6 with a total of 2Mill sp per player. Guess what your total SP is +2Mill sp. Your going to end up going against him. Not to say he wont Sync with his buddy so they both hit battle at the same time. Now your player 2 players with 10Mill sp. NOO WAY
They will have PvE for players to train instead of just Pvp later on. |
SENATOR KODOS
Absentee AFK Regiment
228
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Posted - 2013.07.06 10:49:00 -
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GET ATMESON wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:No they need to implement some kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). Ya same thing. Matchmaking based on SP limits. Any IDEA HOW STUPID THAT IS??? Me to are new guy "Hey new guy. Your squad lead now put us in a battle" Thinking : HAHAHA playing 2Mill sp or below players now with 15mill sp. Easy ISK If CCP were to do this it would be worse for you. Dont like to be pubstomped join a better group of players & better yet get better at the game. Wait CCP do this idea. Wouldn't mind showing this guy its a bad idea. Good idea but It cant happen. There isnt anyway for them to find out total SP of a party of 6 then match it to +/- another groups sp. What if i had 1 guy with 10Mill sp and you had a group of 6 with a total of 2Mill sp per player. Guess what your total SP is +2Mill sp. Your going to end up going against him. Not to say he wont Sync with his buddy so they both hit battle at the same time. Now your player 2 players with 10Mill sp. NOO WAYThey will have PvE for players to train instead of just Pvp later on.
Not sure if serious or...... |
Sotapopthegrey gay
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.07.06 10:54:00 -
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Make all gun type have the same damage but give thee upper tier weapons bonus i.e. 5 percent reload. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
3072
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:06:00 -
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OP, your idea is not going to be accepted by CCP. However, matchmaking is the perfect solution. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
945
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:15:00 -
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I think it would be a lot less complicated to have a "you must be this tall for this ride" qualification system that let's you into higher payout battles.
Integrate it into the game in a good way, such as paying for the privilege to unlock the higher paying choices via travel or merc attainment status, so that people can opt-in to get stomped if they want to and we're good.
Better players won't want to waste their time in low pay/reward zones.
No complex algorithm to figure out how to match people optimally. It's only the new players that need to be protected... it's not like vets won't be happy to mow them down if they decide to show their suits in higher risk/reward matches. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4446
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:54:00 -
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We need game types, but CCP doesn't actually have any idea how to make them :/
Matchmaking is going to **** people who aren't terrible and want to roll solo. While I want a matchmaking system, if you're any good at all, you will no longer be allowed to play by yourself if you don't want to get stomped.
We need game modes, but CCP considers taking a year to program skirmish with one objective to be progress.
So.
Yea.
Good luck with that. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
949
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:58:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:We need game types, but CCP doesn't actually have any idea how to make them :/
Matchmaking is going to **** people who aren't terrible and want to roll solo. While I want a matchmaking system, if you're any good at all, you will no longer be allowed to play by yourself if you don't want to get stomped.
We need game modes, but CCP considers taking a year to program skirmish with one objective to be progress.
So.
Yea.
Good luck with that.
That's why I like the tiered reward model... no new modes, no real changes at all except to the drop/earn rates. You go to the battle screen and there is a text change to show which reward level (not called that of course) you are in. You can click to choose from those you qualify for. That's it for changes really.
Piece of cake compared to a complex matchmaking system or any other non-incentivized behavior modifier. |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4447
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:02:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:That's why I like the tiered reward model... no new modes, no real changes at all except to the drop/earn rates. You go to the battle screen and there is a text change to show which reward level (not called that of course) you are in. You can click to choose from those you qualify for. That's it for changes really.
Piece of cake compared to a complex matchmaking system or any other non-incentivized behavior modifier.
It won't do anything to curb pubstomps because pubstompers don't play for the ISK. There is nothing to do in DUST, when you get right down to it. A lot of pubstompers are descent, but bad in the face of skilled opponents. They play for tears, not for ISK. You can dangle all the ISK you want in front of them, they'll still be plaguing newberries because that's how they get their kicks.
Nothing you do in DUST has any persistence or meaning, your choices aren't worth ****, and your only gameplay options are exactly how you want to shoot the other dude.
Boring. It's just boring. Pub stomping will continue, just like AFK. It's not something CCP really cares to fix, and when they do finally get around to it, they'll likely just break it even more while we wait another year for their next "fix"
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Cy Clone1
Ill Omens
EoN.
60
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Posted - 2013.07.06 15:04:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:No they need to implement some kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). Ya same thing. Matchmaking based on SP limits.
then don't say put on an sp limit. |
JimJones22
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:21:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:1 million cap. Tier 1 1-3 million sp cap. Tier 2 3-5 million cap. Tier 3 Etc. Im not complaining but im talking about your average gamer who wont stay in this game long enough to continually be stomped by high SP players. WIth this post I think I have made myself easily the best choice for CPM. Donation and thoughts are welcome. 
This idea has been kicked around for so long the idea is flat. Basically NOT HAPPENING |
SENATOR KODOS
Absentee AFK Regiment
255
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:41:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:No they need to implement some kind of matchmaking system (Currently there is none). Ya same thing. Matchmaking based on SP limits. then don't say put on an sp limit.
Nah im still gonna say it dork. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
191
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:43:00 -
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Make it based on KDR
I'd love to see a match with nothing but dropship pilots,
or a map where no one take an objective because they are all snipers and tanks. |
Albert Farrier
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.07.09 06:01:00 -
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I can see the issues that can arise with basing it on the KDR, but I still think that it should be a major role in matchmaking. All the sp in the world will do little to keep those who truly suck at the game (me lol) from being totally wiped when going up against more experienced players, regardless of their fittings. I cannot improve my game going up against players who are far more skilled (not in skill points, but actual skill) than I. The true measurement of a players skill is not sp and to truly balance the game it should not be seen as such. I have nearly 3 million sp but my KDR is a paltry 0.45 and going down since the update rendered my heavy useless.
Perhaps an SP/WP ratio could also figure into the mix. Someone with more understanding than I have would have to ponder that to see if the idea has any merit.
Matchmaking is a must and I personally feel that it shouldn't be based on a measurement that in no way reflects the true skill of the player. |
Kiro Justice
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
320
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Posted - 2013.07.09 06:02:00 -
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We know this already, please use the search function next time. |
Albert Farrier
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.07.09 06:08:00 -
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Kiro Justice wrote:We know this already, please use the search function next time.
Forgive me for not reading the entire forum. I simply had a thought while getting stomped, remembered this thread, and decided to respond. If my thought parallels other posts, simply regard this as me agreeing with them. |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
Top Men.
70
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Posted - 2013.07.09 06:36:00 -
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Here is what I would do:
Get rid of ambush or ambush oms. Next create a mode of Dom/Skirmish/Ambush that is based on the meta level of gear like a total meta level or meta avg.
Either that or complete get rid of instant battles for the above,
let those who only wish to pub stomp try doing so in FW or PC. This gives new players a little shelter from all the cruel vets but doesn't prevent it from FW or PC.
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