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Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.06.09 00:05:00 -
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Will Dust ever get its own titan I don't mean a actual titan hovering over the ground but in Dust you hit a quick cap isk wise I would like to see something in Dust that takes the most time to build and loads of isk. Will these be MCCs? Or do you CCP have something bigger that takes forever to manufacture, takes loads of isk to buy, and say 10 mill skill points as a standard just to pilot?
Thank you Eris Ernaga |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.06.09 00:06:00 -
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Also to keep things in check these monsters would not be allowed in instant battles or mercenary battles only corporation battles. This would keep it in line and only allow the biggest of corporations to use it for district control. |
Den-tredje Baron
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.09 00:15:00 -
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I'm guessing MTACs sounds like these. I know it won't be like a big ugly mofo on the field that can just doomsday anything it sees. But i'm guessing these things should be quite complicated to build (when manufacturing is implemented) have quite a hefty pricetag and require a looot of skills to use. (something like medium assault frame and standard frame to 5 + heavy sentinel frame and standard frame to 5. And this would just be to actually use the suit) Just to train the actual skill you need vehicle operation 5 and maybe LAV operation to 3 or something like that.
MTACs should be something pretty endgame that you don't just spam. And of course as you state these should not be allowed into high sec (aka instant matches) |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2013.06.09 00:50:00 -
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imagine capital vehicles... |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.06.09 02:19:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:imagine capital vehicles...
I would love something like that they would cost like a bill or something for the standard one and with top meta or officer modules they would cost like 5 - 10 bill. |
padraic darby
planetary tactical enforcement
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Posted - 2013.06.09 02:26:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:imagine capital vehicles... I would love something like that they would cost like a bill or something for the standard one and with top meta or officer modules they would cost like 5 - 10 bill.
who would pay that when you could buy a capitol ship for that much |
Avallo Kantor
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.09 03:29:00 -
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I think their plan is not to necessarily have that expensive of an item in a match, but instead let us overwhelm things of that nature that already exists (Such as stations / Titans) and let us take them over.
Also, as for things Dust players could directly control, something like a Space elevator or orbital cannon would probably be very costly, and be something you have to fight over. And I think the plan is to make the MCC and Warbarge (which can store many MCCs inside of it) ownable assets that can be customized and deployed out in PC and other more "serious" endeavors |
Eris Ernaga
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Posted - 2013.06.09 03:57:00 -
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padraic darby wrote:Eris Ernaga wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:imagine capital vehicles... I would love something like that they would cost like a bill or something for the standard one and with top meta or officer modules they would cost like 5 - 10 bill. who would pay that when you could buy a capitol ship for that much
Obviously not actual numbers. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.06.09 03:58:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:I think their plan is not to necessarily have that expensive of an item in a match, but instead let us overwhelm things of that nature that already exists (Such as stations / Titans) and let us take them over.
Also, as for things Dust players could directly control, something like a Space elevator or orbital cannon would probably be very costly, and be something you have to fight over. And I think the plan is to make the MCC and Warbarge (which can store many MCCs inside of it) ownable assets that can be customized and deployed out in PC and other more "serious" endeavors
Yes but a lot of what you are talking about are assets in EVE not Dust and the MCC is more of a overhead watch then a giant robot killing machine. |
Harpyja
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:17:00 -
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We already have such vehicles: the Enforcer HAVs. They don't have more tank than standard HAVs, but when they go pop, it's a very expensive fireworks show. |
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Void Echo
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.09 04:26:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:We already have such vehicles: the Enforcer HAVs. They don't have more tank than standard HAVs, but when they go pop, it's a very expensive fireworks show.
which is why they shouldn't exist in the 1st place |
Zat Earthshatter
Ghosts Of Ourselves
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Posted - 2013.06.09 08:34:00 -
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Only thing I could think of would be an entire "socket" facility with movement capability - imagine the Gallente facility on gigantic Madrugar treads, and you get the idea.
This would have multiple Large Turret slots (like Installations), and maybe even a player-controlled NULL cannon dependent on relatively massive PG/CPU. The role of such a thing would be as a mobile base for RTS-level tactics, and possibly long-range bombardment with the NULL cannon. Players can either destroy it with heavy weapons fire (I presume Heavy Bomber aircraft would come before this vehicle), or send small squads to plant REs at critical points, maybe even hack it over to their team. Orbital strikes would also cause significant damage, but would require at least Medium or Large EVE guns to kill outright.
This vehicle/battlestation would only be balanced by the addition of multiple features and weapons that are not in the game as of Uprising, so it would be a period of years before this would be introduced or even playtested. However, it still helps to have strong concepts early on, as it can guide development towards the future. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.09 09:14:00 -
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The mcc will be player controlled at some point.
MTAC come in different sizes, Battle mech or titan(40k type) size could end up in game one day, but we would need MAG size or larger battle size before then since they would probably need several HAv or dozens of forge guns to take down. Although they would also be big enough to hit with null cannon and directly attack the mcc with their primary weapons. |
Eris Ernaga
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Posted - 2013.06.09 18:29:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:The mcc will be player controlled at some point.
MTAC come in different sizes, Battle mech or titan(40k type) size could end up in game one day, but we would need MAG size or larger battle size before then since they would probably need several HAv or dozens of forge guns to take down. Although they would also be big enough to hit with null cannon and directly attack the mcc with their primary weapons.
Do we even know if mechs are gonna be that large? And with all the vehicles coming I am sure there is gonna be a way to kill them. Ionna I just wish a dev would reply and say we will work on the micro titan for dust battles and its like 500 meters long. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.09 18:34:00 -
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Will be MCC when controlled and piloted by a commander |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.06.09 18:37:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Will be MCC when controlled and piloted by a commander
Did they ever say MCCs would be able to target players on the ground or on vehicles? I am also excited about the MCC though because if the skill tree is deep and there are a lot of top meta modules I will laugh at the null cannons that try and scrape the health off them. It'll probably come down to whos MCC is better at that point. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:00:00 -
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Den-tredje Baron wrote:I'm guessing MTACs sounds like these. I know it won't be like a big ugly mofo on the field that can just doomsday anything it sees. But i'm guessing these things should be quite complicated to build (when manufacturing is implemented) have quite a hefty pricetag and require a looot of skills to use. (something like medium assault frame and standard frame to 5 + heavy sentinel frame and standard frame to 5. And this would just be to actually use the suit) Just to train the actual skill you need vehicle operation 5 and maybe LAV operation to 3 or something like that. MTACs should be something pretty endgame that you don't just spam. And of course as you state these should not be allowed into high sec (aka instant matches)
MTAC's are tiny meches. Get out.
Peace, Godin |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:01:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Den-tredje Baron wrote:I'm guessing MTACs sounds like these. I know it won't be like a big ugly mofo on the field that can just doomsday anything it sees. But i'm guessing these things should be quite complicated to build (when manufacturing is implemented) have quite a hefty pricetag and require a looot of skills to use. (something like medium assault frame and standard frame to 5 + heavy sentinel frame and standard frame to 5. And this would just be to actually use the suit) Just to train the actual skill you need vehicle operation 5 and maybe LAV operation to 3 or something like that. MTACs should be something pretty endgame that you don't just spam. And of course as you state these should not be allowed into high sec (aka instant matches) MTAC's are tiny meches. Get out. Peace, Godin
Tiny Starcraft Thors? Arnold voice "lets rock n roll baby" |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:04:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Den-tredje Baron wrote:I'm guessing MTACs sounds like these. I know it won't be like a big ugly mofo on the field that can just doomsday anything it sees. But i'm guessing these things should be quite complicated to build (when manufacturing is implemented) have quite a hefty pricetag and require a looot of skills to use. (something like medium assault frame and standard frame to 5 + heavy sentinel frame and standard frame to 5. And this would just be to actually use the suit) Just to train the actual skill you need vehicle operation 5 and maybe LAV operation to 3 or something like that. MTACs should be something pretty endgame that you don't just spam. And of course as you state these should not be allowed into high sec (aka instant matches) MTAC's are tiny meches. Get out. Peace, Godin
Unless, of course, your talking about that giant one that was in Templar one, but that would be OP as hell. Like damn, it was the size of a BC, and fired medium sized spaceship turrets. It would kill everything in one shot Dust side.
Peace, Godin |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
136
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:06:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Den-tredje Baron wrote:I'm guessing MTACs sounds like these. I know it won't be like a big ugly mofo on the field that can just doomsday anything it sees. But i'm guessing these things should be quite complicated to build (when manufacturing is implemented) have quite a hefty pricetag and require a looot of skills to use. (something like medium assault frame and standard frame to 5 + heavy sentinel frame and standard frame to 5. And this would just be to actually use the suit) Just to train the actual skill you need vehicle operation 5 and maybe LAV operation to 3 or something like that. MTACs should be something pretty endgame that you don't just spam. And of course as you state these should not be allowed into high sec (aka instant matches) MTAC's are tiny meches. Get out. Peace, Godin Tiny Starcraft Thors? Arnold voice "lets rock n roll baby"
They're like 15-20 feet tall. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:08:00 -
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The assaults spent the last year crying about tanks and LAVs. Imagine the tears if we get HOVs. They'll probably come in the game pre-nerfed. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:10:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:The assaults spent the last year crying about tanks and LAVs. Imagine the tears if we get HOVs. They'll probably come in the game pre-nerfed.
HOVS??? |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1272
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:25:00 -
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Heavy Ordinence Vehicles |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:27:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Heavy Ordinence Vehicles
What would those be O.O? |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:28:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Heavy Ordinence Vehicles
explain |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:29:00 -
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Please do. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:31:00 -
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Den-tredje Baron wrote:I'm guessing MTACs sounds like these. I know it won't be like a big ugly mofo on the field that can just doomsday anything it sees. But i'm guessing these things should be quite complicated to build (when manufacturing is implemented) have quite a hefty pricetag and require a looot of skills to use. (something like medium assault frame and standard frame to 5 + heavy sentinel frame and standard frame to 5. And this would just be to actually use the suit) Just to train the actual skill you need vehicle operation 5 and maybe LAV operation to 3 or something like that. MTACs should be something pretty endgame that you don't just spam. And of course as you state these should not be allowed into high sec (aka instant matches)
It'll obviously be a vehicle, so only tankers will be able to use it, and therefore, it'll be nerfed one month after its deployment. Don't get your hopes up. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
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Posted - 2013.06.09 19:32:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Den-tredje Baron wrote:I'm guessing MTACs sounds like these. I know it won't be like a big ugly mofo on the field that can just doomsday anything it sees. But i'm guessing these things should be quite complicated to build (when manufacturing is implemented) have quite a hefty pricetag and require a looot of skills to use. (something like medium assault frame and standard frame to 5 + heavy sentinel frame and standard frame to 5. And this would just be to actually use the suit) Just to train the actual skill you need vehicle operation 5 and maybe LAV operation to 3 or something like that. MTACs should be something pretty endgame that you don't just spam. And of course as you state these should not be allowed into high sec (aka instant matches) It'll obviously be a vehicle, so only tankers will be able to use it, and therefore, it'll be nerfed one month after its deployment. Don't get your hopes up.
Lmao Charlotte been reading all your comments I quit tanking went from the sagaris to madrugar to Minmitar Logi suits. |
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