This is why we need the AR's name changed to the plasma carbine. It's meant to be a short/mid range, high DPS blaster rifle. If you want that kind of range, wait for the Caldari gauss rifle.

Dear Devs GǪ i try to give some ideas here, no flame.
YouGÇÖr on a good way with Dust514, it has potential in many ways.

I know youGÇÖr working on the Falloff for Handguns, but keep in mind that weapon should be in a right relation to each other!

ItGÇÖs 2013 in the Real word and Dust514 is something like 2500+
LetGÇÖs talk about the Weapons and their Characteristics NOW in the Real World (Source is Wikipedia):

Assault rifle: Should at least have a firing range of 300 meters
Machine Gun: The M60 (as example from 1950) is considered effective up to 600 meters when firing at a point target; and up to 200 meters when firing at a moving point target
Submachine Gun: Key realizations made during World War II, notably the fact that most small-arms engagements occurred within 90 meters
Sniper Rifles: Effective ranges in combat situations have been stated at between 600 to 1,300 m (as Example Dragunov from 1963)
Shotgun: 12GÇ¥ Gauge from 18-37 m with a spread of 100-150cm (Spas-12 as Example)
Grenade Launcher: Depends strongly on the Rounds 10-45 meters (Like M203)


Ok, letGÇÖs say this is for the Earth and the G-Force of 9.8, so It will change from Planet to Planet, depending on the G-Force. But i donGÇÖt want to be pedantic :P

It would be enough, if Weapons could get a more realistic range then today. I mean its a SciFi game and weapons changed dramatically within the last 50 years so imagine 500 years later!

Edit: It's not about getting the REAL ranges ... but good relations to each weapon

And if you thought redline sniping was bad before lets give the guns their real world ranges, ranges which exceed the length of the stages we are fighting on
Dont get me wrong we desperately need increased ranges or fall off or anything besides this stupid bullets vanishing at a given distance but real world ranges are too much

Go ahead and change the ARs name to plasma carbine, and when your done with that create a new gun called the Assault Rifle thats just like it with longer range

We'll be making some adjustments to the rifle ranges in the near future. We're currently testing the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle internally (the two missing archetypes). Within the assault rifle class the four weapon types will break down as follows:

Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range
Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range
Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range
Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range

Keep in mind though that long range for an assault rifle is not equivalent to long range for a sniper rifle, so while they will adhere to existing category definitions don't expect massive differences in the distances between these weapons
A lot of the original assault rifle variants (Breach, Burst, Tactical) were created to fill the gaps these newer weapons will fill and so mightGÇÖve felt out of place (not to mention we just plain made mistakes with some of them). The scrambler rifleGÇÖs optimal range will be increased and weGÇÖll be releasing an iteration of the Tactical Assault Rifle with a smaller clip and much wider hip-fire spread making it less effective in CQC. If that change alone does not prove enough we will walk the damage of the TAR down slowly. No big, sweeping changes this time.

belive me when I say, this game is by no means realistic

He said "hit the enemy," not "leisurely take your time lining up a shot on a stationary, highly visible target that isn't utilizing cover nor shooting back at you."

Slightly different circumstances.

He said "hit the enemy," not "leisurely take your time lining up a shot on a stationary, highly visible target that isn't utilizing cover nor shooting back at you."

Slightly different circumstances.

There are times in this game and in the real world when that is exactly what you need to do
"hit and enemy, take your time to line up a shot, hes not shooting at you because he doesnt know your there"
Noobtard,

Were talking about rifle accuracy and range, not aimbot

whoever taught you it takes 10 people 30 bullets each to hit 1 target at 300 yrds is a bad shot and so are his friends

im not having a go friend, yes the ranges should be put up, I was mearly pointing out a formula I was thought, that poped into my head many times down the years,
it still pops in there while playing this game,
if the ranges were tweaked it would feel exactly the same,
that's a good thing, I would like to know why the op says the m60 eff range drops to 200 on a moning target
fire bursts

Found on Wiki if you're looking for effective ranges ;)
It's because of the spread of the MG. But whereever you may look into, the MGs have same Ranges then ARs sometimes a bit more not 50% of its range

Look this for comparison
Range in Yards
Range Diagram

ARs have 100% accuracy when you ADS in this game, the accuracy stat number is how accurate you are when hip firing. Remember what I said about trying to be an authority on things you don't know about?

@hows mydriving whocares

yes, your absolutely right!

i Updated my first Post a bit with more details

Unless you're trying to say an assault rifle taught him that, and that his friends are also assault rifles, you were clearly talking about people's accuracy, not the gun's.

Comparing target shooting and actual combat performance is laughable.

You think you know what i was talking about better than i do noobtard?

says the man who is trying to force his opinion on everyone else,

Wait let me get this straight,

Are you suggesting you've been through basic training in the army, and never met anyone who trained for combat by shooting targets........
Why dont you grow up and stop pretending your right all the time?

Then WTF are these guys doing dip ****
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MbrMDJaJDT8

im with the op on this one, stay on topic, quite trollin

frankly I don't understand,

You had it correct way back here.

Don't feed the trolls.

yea dude, I was just thinking that, I answered the op question, im not arguing with someone who wants to be solid snake, I wanted to be to, real world not like that though

and as I pointed out, I agree
I was just answering the op question as we were talking about real ranges
your the one callin people noobtards and dipshits ect.. ect
I all ready told you, that's where you lost me.

And if you thought redline sniping was bad before lets give the guns their real world ranges, ranges which exceed the length of the stages we are fighting on
Dont get me wrong we desperately need increased ranges or fall off or anything besides this stupid bullets vanishing at a given distance but real world ranges are too much