DUST Search - [critical] RDV killing dropships

ImpureMort wrote:

Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:

EDIT : Here is a Video showing the problem

RDV - Death From The Void

This needs to stop. Now. Tonight I spawned 8 dropships. 1.3 million each. I lost 2 to RDV pilots crashing before they even delivered my DS. That's 2.6 million. Then I lost 3 to random out of clucking nowhere RdV swipes. That's another 3.9 million.

So as I see it CCP you owe me 6.5 million. Really this is lame and has to stop.

My ISK take real hours of my real life to earn. And your code takes it off me unfairly. If nothing else how about a sorry,

could be worse believe me how long u been in dust...2 losses in one match to this issue is nothing.....it has improved much...remember to call your DS in a safe area...most of us who ran tank in closed have these areas that almost always bring your vehicle in perfectly...find them ...dont call your ds in risky areas if you ever need help finding those safe zone ask a closed beta player..than ran vehicles ...it used to be so bad on some maps there would only be 2-4 safe areas....god forbid u get on the L pipe straight pipe map...think there was maybe 2 safe areas on that one lol compared to how it used to be this is one of the biggest improvements in dust that i can see Twisted

hmmm to bad we were under nda....best dust bloopers of all time would be found on that map.

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Nguruthos IX Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 619	Posted - 2013.06.18 07:51:00 - [31] - Quote Aoena Rays wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? A helping hand has been extended. This Dev may want to see it from our side, may be new, may want to have evidence from us to help push it up the bug list to get it above the line. While it may be instinct to slap the hand, i'll be reaching out for it and I am grateful to have had a response. I'll do my best to treat the request as a genuine offer of assistance. Why don't you do the same. Film if you can, screenshot the damage in at the end if you can't film it. Yeah, I'll try to sometime. Sorry, I'm just astounded that something like this should require evidence though. All the mechanics are there. It's like building a game that has fall damage then asking to see a video of someone falling to death before you'll understand what's happening. Or maybe devs never had this happening as they are playing game normally while you are trying to drop dropship on all possible places and get it squashed - therefore they need proof of concept in order to fix it. What are you talking about? Have you ever flown a DS or seen an RDV? They spawn in the middle of the air randomly. You know, where normal people are normally flying. This has nothing to do with being squished, please. Read.
TODDSTER024 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 66	Posted - 2013.06.18 10:14:00 - [32] - Quote CCP OverRainbow wrote: Hi, Could you please capture a video to demonstrate how the RDV behavior is so we can investigate this problem better? Thank you. I've had them fly full speed into me when I just lifted off the ground. Decloak infront of the path. Someone calls in an RDV right next to me and the two RDVs collide trying to deploy on the same spot. Thats all I can think of from the top of my head, but there have been more.
Judge Rhadamanthus Kapow Heavy Industries 166	Posted - 2013.06.23 14:14:00 - [33] - Quote CCP OverRainbow wrote: Hi, Could you please capture a video to demonstrate how the RDV behavior is so we can investigate this problem better? Thank you. As requested I filmed and created a video for you. I did a voice over,freeze frames, fade to black etc to try explain why its such a bother in a clear, and also interesting way. follow the youtube link below. Thanks. If you could post that you watched it I would appreciate it. Just so i know you saw the reply. RDV - Death From The Void
Nguruthos IX Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 626	Posted - 2013.06.24 02:46:00 - [34] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: CCP OverRainbow wrote: Hi, Could you please capture a video to demonstrate how the RDV behavior is so we can investigate this problem better? Thank you. As requested I filmed and created a video for you. I did a voice over,freeze frames, fade to black etc to try explain why its such a bother in a clear, and also interesting way. follow the youtube link below. Thanks. If you could post that you watched it I would appreciate it. Just so i know you saw the reply. RDV - Death From The Void Thank you for making this video. Despite what others may say about this "Not happening to them very much" it happens All the time. The difference between me saying it happens all the time, and them saying they've only seen it once is the frequency by which we fly. I'm only in the air, and constantly in the air. This is an hourly occurrence for me, although it could be a third of that if you que fast enough
Nguruthos IX Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 626	Posted - 2013.06.24 02:50:00 - [35] - Quote It does not matter how high or low, how fast or slow, how careful or not you are. These WILL hit you, and there will be nothing you can do about it. I'm tired of it. CCP does not care because the pilots are few so the problem is "small". Seriously, from a company who made an entire space game, this is a drastic and embarrassing oversight. It's oversight or neglect. To have air vehicles (The closest thing to a spacecraft in Eve) spawning into bloody player owned ships and demolishing them instantly and without warning. I'm out hundreds of millions and that is NOT an exaggeration. Were it not for the huge influx of ISK from asset liquidation on "release" then I'd already be broke and quit Dust by necessity. However I've been kept afloat by the value of hundreds of millions of ISK from that conversion 3 months ago. Resources are dwindling and with that, flight becomes impossible.
Wolfica Planetary Response Organization 71	Posted - 2013.06.24 03:53:00 - [36] - Quote this doesn't happen to just DS pilots, basically if 2 or more vehicals are called in within 50m of each other at the same time the RDV's make it their mission to hit the other. best thing to do for a DS is to wait for every one to call in that initial spam of vehicles before taking off.
Nguruthos IX Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 626	Posted - 2013.06.24 04:49:00 - [37] - Quote Wolfica wrote: this doesn't happen to just DS pilots, basically if 2 or more vehicals are called in within 50m of each other at the same time the RDV's make it their mission to hit the other. best thing to do for a DS is to wait for every one to call in that initial spam of vehicles before taking off. And this is a solution because Nobody EVER calls in a vehicle after the first two minutes of a match. right? Riiight?? Awh.
ImpureMort Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 106	Posted - 2013.06.24 11:46:00 - [38] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: EDIT : Here is a Video showing the problem RDV - Death From The Void This needs to stop. Now. Tonight I spawned 8 dropships. 1.3 million each. I lost 2 to RDV pilots crashing before they even delivered my DS. That's 2.6 million. Then I lost 3 to random out of clucking nowhere RdV swipes. That's another 3.9 million. So as I see it CCP you owe me 6.5 million. Really this is lame and has to stop. My ISK take real hours of my real life to earn. And your code takes it off me unfairly. If nothing else how about a sorry, could be worse believe me how long u been in dust...2 losses in one match to this issue is nothing.....it has improved much...remember to call you DS in a safe area...most of us who ran tank in closed have these area that almost always bring your vehicle in perfectly...find them ...dont call your ds in risky areas if you ever need help finding those safe zone ask an closed beta player..than run vehicles ...it used to be so bad on some maps there would only be 2-4 safe areas....god forbid u get on the L pipe straight pipe map...think there was maybe 2 safe areas on that one lol compared to how it used to be this is one of the biggest improvements in dust that i can see
Judge Rhadamanthus Kapow Heavy Industries 171	Posted - 2013.06.24 13:35:00 - [39] - Quote ImpureMort wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: EDIT : Here is a Video showing the problem RDV - Death From The Void This needs to stop. Now. Tonight I spawned 8 dropships. 1.3 million each. I lost 2 to RDV pilots crashing before they even delivered my DS. That's 2.6 million. Then I lost 3 to random out of clucking nowhere RdV swipes. That's another 3.9 million. So as I see it CCP you owe me 6.5 million. Really this is lame and has to stop. My ISK take real hours of my real life to earn. And your code takes it off me unfairly. If nothing else how about a sorry, could be worse believe me how long u been in dust...2 losses in one match to this issue is nothing.....it has improved much...remember to call your DS in a safe area...most of us who ran tank in closed have these areas that almost always bring your vehicle in perfectly...find them ...dont call your ds in risky areas if you ever need help finding those safe zone ask a closed beta player..than ran vehicles ...it used to be so bad on some maps there would only be 2-4 safe areas....god forbid u get on the L pipe straight pipe map...think there was maybe 2 safe areas on that one lol compared to how it used to be this is one of the biggest improvements in dust that i can see hmmm to bad we were under nda....best dust bloopers of all time would be found on that map. I have been flying DS since the end of closed. I never speced into anything else, so i have a lot of experience. I run fast scout suits so i can get to a safe spot quickly.
BARDAS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 10	Posted - 2013.06.24 20:48:00 - [40] - Quote Cool. Now I know what to do next time I see an enemy dropship hovering nearby... calls in free LAV... lol Am I that evil? Hmm may have to think on it a bit.

Texs Red SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 39	Posted - 2013.06.24 20:49:00 - [41] - Quote What else is agitating is even if you avoid the drunk Bolas pilots any idiot with a MLT dropship (68k) is able to ram into my assault dropship (1.1M) and kill it. It would be like a sica (138k) ramming a fully fit falcon (2-2.5M) and kill it, it's just stupid! It doesn't help that dropships have the lowest health of any vehicle, not that an extra 1k or 2k health would help when a bolas deals 200-400k damage.
Theillness Famous.OTF Only The Famous 1	Posted - 2013.08.01 04:06:00 - [42] - Quote This is just the forum I have been looking for. Everything these guys have said is true. And the video doesn't lie. It is just upsetting that only 1 DEV has replied to this post. I lost a few to hitting RDVs, sometimes they were my own right after takeoff!!! I literally touched it with my tail and was incinerated by the RDV Gods! I also agree that they are the weakest vehicle, the caldari logistics lab has more base shields than every dropship! How can the only aerial vehicle in this future 1000s of years later than present day earth, be so weak and helpless? These things are entrusted to carry full squads to and from objectives but if even one person has AV anything you can't make it anywhere near that point of the map. Please CCp just resolve this with your fixed that you talk about!
Crashy Mc Boom-bewm Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.08.01 05:08:00 - [43] - Quote I've had issues with those rdv's, I called in a car and the thing dropped it, but soon afterwards just smashed straight down into the car, even though it hadn't been destroyed or hit. It's happened quite a lot, please fix this bug
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 80	Posted - 2013.08.01 17:58:00 - [44] - Quote Related thread, related crashes with RDVs and general drunkenness of their drivers https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1081216#post1081216 Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRuym9IkUwE I would hate to lose millions in tanks/dropships to this +1
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 64	Posted - 2013.08.01 20:05:00 - [45] - Quote When you spawn in, call in a LAV. Then drive your LAV to a clear area by the redline and call in your DS. If you call in your DS at the beginning of a match (particularly if you're near buildings/towers) then you have to expect RDVs to randomly pop out of nowhere. Try flying really low (like a few meters off the ground) to get away from your spawn area before gaining altitude.
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 505	Posted - 2013.08.02 16:03:00 - [46] - Quote Had this happen several times last night in PC. I was just calling in Sagas and it mostly was fine, but one time by RDV decided to fly laps around a tower (at high altitude) instead of dropping the car. The RDV was destroyed by a tank, and it never would have if it had come in and done a drop. The issues were worse for teammates calling in HAVs and DSs, it affected at least two other teammates.


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