There are other AR's you know???

Yes, they will give you respec every time they change color of the tires on LAVs.

There are other AR's you know???

You wouldn't have thought it for the last month but they are there.

I still specced into AR after my respec, you know why??

Cos I want to use AR's and I feel I can now return to them without being forced to use a TAC to remain competitive. AND I'll probably still use the TAR anyway when the situation calls for it (i.e when I need an accurate mid-long range weapon)

They haven't broken the TAR, they have fixed it. People were just used to being able to abuse a broken weapon and became complacent with it. Use it as intended and it will still shine.

They did break the TAC by screwing around with the ROF way to much, not only can most people pull the trigger far faster than what its set at now when you do exceed that speed now the gun stutters and doesnt even fire as quickly as the breach which it shares its new ROF with
Thats broken, hip fire and clip size changes were fine though

We knew about the Tac AR nerf before the respecs. If you chose to spec into them anyway, that's on you. I spec'd into them, and I don't regret it, just use the other ARs.

You want another Respec ?.... Most haven't have their first one yet. But of course... is all about YOU.

And those were the two changes I was asking for. IMO they could have left the RoF as was I didn't care about that. However......... Think about it for a minute for the way MOST people were using the gun

Higher RoF + Trigger Finger Spam = Less accuracy.....
Less Accuracy + Less Bullets = Worse overall gun performance due to less shots hit and more reloading

So in a way you could argue the fact that the slower RoF actually improves the weapon by rewarding ACCURATE shots.

yup correct it is all about me since this has nothing to do with you.

Not trying to be mean but thats idiotic, the lower magazine alone rewards accurate shooting while a lower rate of fire just gimps you
Ill use an example that happened to me today, I flank some guy and open fire on him with the glu as Im already a fairly accurate guy that likes to stay in the mid to long range Im using my sight and not spraying wildly
Due to the screwed up ROF and the gun stuttering when you surpass it I dont get off the shots I need and get eaten by his gek
If the rate of fire was left alone or hell if the fix was coded properly so that the gun wouldnt stutter I could have gotten off the shots I needed to put him down before he turned to open fire

As I said " Think about it for a minute for the way MOST people were using the gun"

You may have been accurate with it... BUT..... most weren't therefore the people who weren't just spammed away and the smaller clip size combined with a high RoF makes the gun worse.

By forcing everybody to slow down it rewards better use of the gun hence making the gun better and more suited to its purpose. Now if there is stuttering then that needs to be fixed but the RoF is fine. But hell put it back to what it was, like is said I don't care if it makes most people worse then it means I'll stay alive longer.

I wish the best of luck to those emptying a clip in 1.5 seconds. I was in the Clip Size and CQC hipfire nerf camp but not once did I ask for RoF nerf and was very vocal about it in the Feedback request thread.

I wouldnt say a smaller clip size and high rate of fire would make the gun worse it would make a particular play style worse instead while still rewarding those that are accurate
Ah well, we seem to be in agreement anyway

yup correct it is all about me since this has nothing to do with you.

Stop crying about the RoF for a semi auto rifle.

Ill post this again for you guys who may not realize this.

GLU-5 is capable of 400 RPM

400/60 = 6.6 RPS

6 - 7 shots per second.

In Reality shooting a semi auto rifle at this rate would mean you are lucky to hit the broad side of a barn!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_of_fire

"Semi-Automatic rate

The semi-automatic rate is the assault rifle/semi-auto only version on rapid fire. It is the maximum rate that a weapon can fire with any degree of accuracy in semi-auto mode, usually 45-60 rpm."

60/60 = 1 RPS

1 shot per second!!!!

for those of you who do not want to click and face the truth.

I guess in the future humans will be able to pull triggers much MUCH MUCH faster than we can now!

Stop crying about the RoF for a semi auto rifle.

Ill post this again for you guys who may not realize this.

GLU-5 is capable of 400 RPM

400/60 = 6.6 RPS

6 - 7 shots per second.

In Reality shooting a semi auto rifle at this rate would mean you are lucky to hit the broad side of a barn!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_of_fire

"Semi-Automatic rate

The semi-automatic rate is the assault rifle/semi-auto only version on rapid fire. It is the maximum rate that a weapon can fire with any degree of accuracy in semi-auto mode, usually 45-60 rpm."

60/60 = 1 RPS

1 shot per second!!!!

for those of you who do not want to click and face the truth.

I guess in the future humans will be able to pull triggers much MUCH MUCH faster than we can now!

I know you feel all proud right now and think you made a point but you didnt really
Now if you had used this copy pasta to say that the hip fire accuracy should be altered to increase dispersion even more depending on how rapidly the trigger was squeezed I would be with you
But using evidence that supports accuracy ratings and not speed ratings cuts your credibility down, especially when you decide that some of us cant possibly pull the trigger 10 times in a second which many people are able to do

Hell on a real rifle I can do that, even my 12 year old cousin can do that also with a real rifle

But using evidence that supports accuracy ratings and not speed ratings cuts your credibility down, especially when you decide that some of us cant possibly pull the trigger 10 times in a second which many people are able to do

Hell on a real rifle I can do that, even my 12 year old cousin can do that also with a real rifle

We knew about the Tac AR nerf before the respecs. If you chose to spec into them anyway, that's on you. I spec'd into them, and I don't regret it, just use the other ARs.

Seriously. The GEK still works. The GLU works as intended now. Exile will always be a staple on throwaway suits. What do you want to use those points for anyway? Lasers?

Naw... OP probably wants to respec into proto grenades. Yeah, then when those get nerfed he'll want a respec again.

I know you feel all proud right now and think you made a point but you didnt really
Now if you had used this copy pasta to say that the hip fire accuracy should be altered to increase dispersion even more depending on how rapidly the trigger was squeezed I would be with you
But using evidence that supports accuracy ratings and not speed ratings cuts your credibility down, especially when you decide that some of us cant possibly pull the trigger 10 times in a second which many people are able to do

Hell on a real rifle I can do that, even my 12 year old cousin can do that also with a real rifle

I guess you didn't see the thread about the SCR heat build up.

EDIT:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=85148&find=unread

Now, to the people who want to nerf my Flayock with 1mill+ SP into it, you can go **** yourself.

Actually, that should be a requirement to request a nerf, you must spend at least 1mill SP on the weapon you want nerfed first.

CCP.

You should consider another respec to players now that you completly totaled the Tac rifles.
infact im not even mad about it as i knew it would come but why the hell did you not do the patch before people specced into the gun? why do you constantly do things backwards instead of doing them right?
why worry about nerfing everything when the game itself isnt done? why wont you reply to the actual community?
why the constant screw ups? your supposed to make a game better not ruin it.
i think i could make a better fps then you at this point. i mean no disrespect but gawd foreal get it together.

And you need to go and play call of duty

CCP.

You should consider another respec to players now that you completly totaled the Tac rifles.
infact im not even mad about it as i knew it would come but why the hell did you not do the patch before people specced into the gun? why do you constantly do things backwards instead of doing them right?
why worry about nerfing everything when the game itself isnt done? why wont you reply to the actual community?
why the constant screw ups? your supposed to make a game better not ruin it.
i think i could make a better fps then you at this point. i mean no disrespect but gawd foreal get it together.

Here we go again.. they told us before hand the tar was getting fixed and some of US are still waiting for our respecs because not everyone got theirs already

Threads like this are why it's so great to Skype with my friend Hel Zazaku as she continues to **** on people with the Tac AR, because she uses it at long range.

The only way reason you could have for saying they totaled it is that you were using it at close range to destroy people before they could fight back, and now you actually have to use the weapon situation-ally just like all the others.

Why do you people keeping posting these threads thinking anyone will have sympathy for you? You used a broken asset as a crutch, and now it's been fixed. Get over it.

They did break the TAC by screwing around with the ROF way to much, not only can most people pull the trigger far faster than what its set at now when you do exceed that speed now the gun stutters and doesnt even fire as quickly as the breach which it shares its new ROF with
Thats broken, hip fire and clip size changes were fine though

it still demolishes people at close range. and we post because we are free to. let me ask you a question tho is everyone in your corp complete a$$holes online simply because they have absolutly no ball$ in real life? let go of the ego trip and just be yourself getting on a forum and trying to make people look dumb only belittles you as a human Fuqtard.

So they should allow a new respec because they nerfed the TAC and apparently AR in general are now useless? Yeah, this totally makes sense.

They did break the TAC by screwing around with the ROF way to much, not only can most people pull the trigger far faster than what its set at now when you do exceed that speed now the gun stutters and doesnt even fire as quickly as the breach which it shares its new ROF with
Thats broken, hip fire and clip size changes were fine though

actually the ar's arent useless. and the tac works fine it just takes time getting used to the rof and clip size.
other then this it works fine at first i thought it was broke i will not deny this but after playing with it for sometime today its still a good gun you just have to choose your battles more carefull at close ranges.