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Ivan Avogadro
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:26:00 -
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The Black Art wrote:We knew about the Tac AR nerf before the respecs. If you chose to spec into them anyway, that's on you. I spec'd into them, and I don't regret it, just use the other ARs.
Seriously. The GEK still works. The GLU works as intended now. Exile will always be a staple on throwaway suits. What do you want to use those points for anyway? Lasers?
Naw... OP probably wants to respec into proto grenades. Yeah, then when those get nerfed he'll want a respec again. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
152
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:31:00 -
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Ivan Avogadro wrote:The Black Art wrote:We knew about the Tac AR nerf before the respecs. If you chose to spec into them anyway, that's on you. I spec'd into them, and I don't regret it, just use the other ARs. Seriously. The GEK still works. The GLU works as intended now. Exile will always be a staple on throwaway suits. What do you want to use those points for anyway? Lasers? Naw... OP probably wants to respec into proto grenades. Yeah, then when those get nerfed he'll want a respec again.
I guess you didn't see the thread about the SCR heat build up.
EDIT:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=85148&find=unread |
Cybus Trama'dol
EYE Security Task Force and Resources Acquisition
75
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:31:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:
I know you feel all proud right now and think you made a point but you didnt really Now if you had used this copy pasta to say that the hip fire accuracy should be altered to increase dispersion even more depending on how rapidly the trigger was squeezed I would be with you But using evidence that supports accuracy ratings and not speed ratings cuts your credibility down, especially when you decide that some of us cant possibly pull the trigger 10 times in a second which many people are able to do
Hell on a real rifle I can do that, even my 12 year old cousin can do that also with a real rifle
Yeah...
You might be able to do that technically.
BUT.... could you perform say 5-7 Accurate headshots at 70M?
I'll guess at no, but hey I'll give you the benefit of the doubt... Were you perhaps trained by Bob Munden
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Imp Smash
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
118
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:34:00 -
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I too felt that 400 was a tad low. 500 woulda been fine.
But yeah - still a good gun. ARs are still the best all around guns. Respec? Seriously? |
Panther Alpha
Lone Wolf Going Solo
421
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:45:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Ivan Avogadro wrote:The Black Art wrote:We knew about the Tac AR nerf before the respecs. If you chose to spec into them anyway, that's on you. I spec'd into them, and I don't regret it, just use the other ARs. Seriously. The GEK still works. The GLU works as intended now. Exile will always be a staple on throwaway suits. What do you want to use those points for anyway? Lasers? Naw... OP probably wants to respec into proto grenades. Yeah, then when those get nerfed he'll want a respec again. I guess you didn't see the thread about the SCR heat build up. EDIT: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=85148&find=unread
I already spec into the SCR.... but is not for any of that reasons. Of course... i'm bit worry about the nerfing hammer, once people realize what is going on with the SCR. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
35
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:45:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Now, to the people who want to nerf my Flayock with 1mill+ SP into it, you can go **** yourself.
Actually, that should be a requirement to request a nerf, you must spend at least 1mill SP on the weapon you want nerfed first.
That gun needs a nerf in worse way, just fix the splash damage that when noobs spam it on the ground they receive damage as well. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
211
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Posted - 2013.06.06 12:57:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:CCP.
You should consider another respec to players now that you completly totaled the Tac rifles. infact im not even mad about it as i knew it would come but why the hell did you not do the patch before people specced into the gun? why do you constantly do things backwards instead of doing them right? why worry about nerfing everything when the game itself isnt done? why wont you reply to the actual community? why the constant screw ups? your supposed to make a game better not ruin it. i think i could make a better fps then you at this point. i mean no disrespect but gawd foreal get it together. Here we go again.. they told us before hand the tar was getting fixed and some of US are still waiting for our respecs because not everyone got theirs already |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
80
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:46:00 -
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BUGSBUNNY LOONEY wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:You want another Respec ?.... Most haven't have their first one yet. But of course... is all about YOU. yup correct it is all about me since this has nothing to do with you. And you need to go and play call of duty
lol you would bugs |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1847
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:49:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:CCP.
You should consider another respec to players now that you completly totaled the Tac rifles. infact im not even mad about it as i knew it would come but why the hell did you not do the patch before people specced into the gun? why do you constantly do things backwards instead of doing them right? why worry about nerfing everything when the game itself isnt done? why wont you reply to the actual community? why the constant screw ups? your supposed to make a game better not ruin it. i think i could make a better fps then you at this point. i mean no disrespect but gawd foreal get it together. Threads like this are why it's so great to Skype with my friend Hel Zazaku as she continues to **** on people with the Tac AR, because she uses it at long range.
The only way reason you could have for saying they totaled it is that you were using it at close range to destroy people before they could fight back, and now you actually have to use the weapon situation-ally just like all the others.
Why do you people keeping posting these threads thinking anyone will have sympathy for you? You used a broken asset as a crutch, and now it's been fixed. Get over it. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
80
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:50:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:CCP.
You should consider another respec to players now that you completly totaled the Tac rifles. infact im not even mad about it as i knew it would come but why the hell did you not do the patch before people specced into the gun? why do you constantly do things backwards instead of doing them right? why worry about nerfing everything when the game itself isnt done? why wont you reply to the actual community? why the constant screw ups? your supposed to make a game better not ruin it. i think i could make a better fps then you at this point. i mean no disrespect but gawd foreal get it together. Here we go again.. they told us before hand the tar was getting fixed and some of US are still waiting for our respecs because not everyone got theirs already
not worried about the tac anymore i figured something out its fine now and so is the scrambler i did some sp spending and got it figured out disregard this post people. |
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:53:00 -
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So they should allow a new respec because they nerfed the TAC and apparently AR in general are now useless? Yeah, this totally makes sense. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
80
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:53:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:CCP.
You should consider another respec to players now that you completly totaled the Tac rifles. infact im not even mad about it as i knew it would come but why the hell did you not do the patch before people specced into the gun? why do you constantly do things backwards instead of doing them right? why worry about nerfing everything when the game itself isnt done? why wont you reply to the actual community? why the constant screw ups? your supposed to make a game better not ruin it. i think i could make a better fps then you at this point. i mean no disrespect but gawd foreal get it together. Threads like this are why it's so great to Skype with my friend Hel Zazaku as she continues to **** on people with the Tac AR, because she uses it at long range. The only way reason you could have for saying they totaled it is that you were using it at close range to destroy people before they could fight back, and now you actually have to use the weapon situation-ally just like all the others. Why do you people keeping posting these threads thinking anyone will have sympathy for you? You used a broken asset as a crutch, and now it's been fixed. Get over it.
it still demolishes people at close range. and we post because we are free to. let me ask you a question tho is everyone in your corp complete a$$holes online simply because they have absolutly no ball$ in real life? let go of the ego trip and just be yourself getting on a forum and trying to make people look dumb only belittles you as a human Fuqtard. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
308
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:58:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Cybus Trama'dol wrote:There are other AR's you know???
You wouldn't have thought it for the last month but they are there.
I still specced into AR after my respec, you know why??
Cos I want to use AR's and I feel I can now return to them without being forced to use a TAC to remain competitive. AND I'll probably still use the TAR anyway when the situation calls for it (i.e when I need an accurate mid-long range weapon)
They haven't broken the TAR, they have fixed it. People were just used to being able to abuse a broken weapon and became complacent with it. Use it as intended and it will still shine. They did break the TAC by screwing around with the ROF way to much, not only can most people pull the trigger far faster than what its set at now when you do exceed that speed now the gun stutters and doesnt even fire as quickly as the breach which it shares its new ROF with Thats broken, hip fire and clip size changes were fine though
Maybe it is working as intended?
The "stuttering" could be the "hard cadence set", slow down your rhythm or rage at your TV while your gun jams. |
martinofski
Les Rebelles A Qc
173
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:58:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:
it still demolishes people at close range. and we post because we are free to. let me ask you a question tho is everyone in your corp complete a$$holes online simply because they have absolutly no ball$ in real life? let go of the ego trip and just be yourself getting on a forum and trying to make people look dumb only belittles you as a human Fuqtard.
Just like you did huh? |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
80
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:58:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:So they should allow a new respec because they nerfed the TAC and apparently AR in general are now useless? Yeah, this totally makes sense.
actually the ar's arent useless. and the tac works fine it just takes time getting used to the rof and clip size. other then this it works fine at first i thought it was broke i will not deny this but after playing with it for sometime today its still a good gun you just have to choose your battles more carefull at close ranges. |
General John Ripper
187. Unclaimed.
361
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Posted - 2013.06.07 11:59:00 -
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lame |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
199
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:19:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Cybus Trama'dol wrote:There are other AR's you know???
You wouldn't have thought it for the last month but they are there.
I still specced into AR after my respec, you know why??
Cos I want to use AR's and I feel I can now return to them without being forced to use a TAC to remain competitive. AND I'll probably still use the TAR anyway when the situation calls for it (i.e when I need an accurate mid-long range weapon)
They haven't broken the TAR, they have fixed it. People were just used to being able to abuse a broken weapon and became complacent with it. Use it as intended and it will still shine. They did break the TAC by screwing around with the ROF way to much, not only can most people pull the trigger far faster than what its set at now when you do exceed that speed now the gun stutters and doesnt even fire as quickly as the breach which it shares its new ROF with Thats broken, hip fire and clip size changes were fine though No it's not broken. It's a mechanic to give a control factor to it. The scrambler rifle has an overheat function. If you don't watch your heat levels you'll overheat with all that goes with it. The Tac AR now has a limiter that if you spam the trigger, the gun messes up. But if you control your fire rate, you've 18 rounds of massive damage going downrange, with another 18 loaded in a few seconds. They still left the gun with an excellent reserve of ammo, and if you're close enough to the target, hip fire is still very viable.
By doing this balancing, CCP have pushed players to use the AR variants for different jobs. If you have Tac AR then you have options of full auto, breach, burst, OR Tac. Take your pick. Just because you and others can spam the trigger extremely fast doesn't mean you should be allowed to. Game balance is directed to the major not the minor groups of users.
I'm not saying HTFU, just try taking a look at the bigger picture beyond your own preferences. |
Oxskull Duncarino
Shadow Company HQ
199
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:20:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:So they should allow a new respec because they nerfed the TAC and apparently AR in general are now useless? Yeah, this totally makes sense. actually the ar's arent useless. and the tac works fine it just takes time getting used to the rof and clip size. other then this it works fine at first i thought it was broke i will not deny this but after playing with it for sometime today its still a good gun you just have to choose your battles more carefull at close ranges. Good to hear dude. |
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