The Thukker does not count as a isk variant of the fused locust. It's nothing like the fused locust except it's contact property.

Help me out here a bit.

Are you saying the aur version needs to be nerfed to the isk version?

Help me out here a bit.

Are you saying the aur version needs to be nerfed to the isk version?

Fused Locus:
400 damage
6.0 radius (what?)
2 Max

Thukker:
600 damage
2.5 radius.
3 Max

Max ammo doesn't count if you have nanos.

And all the while I have seen maybe three people using a MD in PC.
CCP: Nerfs MD because it is too effective(At their LAN parties) ; adds something better that you have to pay for.


Also note the CPU and PG req differences between the two nades.
((Why does flaylock pistol have such absurdly low PG reqs?)) Unrelated question.

I guess they have to do something to keep the new players interested?

MDs (as well as all projectile based weapons) are suffering from a serious bug, a fix has been made but wont make it until next code release.

MDs (as well as all projectile based weapons) are suffering from a serious bug, a fix has been made but wont make it until next code release.

Its a numeration of things, but basically what the server is seeing and what you are seeing involving the mass driver is two different stories.

Help me out here a bit.

Are you saying the aur version needs to be nerfed to the isk version?

Its a numeration of things, but basically what the server is seeing and what you are seeing involving the mass driver is two different stories.

Update on this: We did deploy ISK variant of this grenade to the market - "Thukker Contact Locus Grenade" for 23,190 ISK.

EDIT: Also, for the record, "Locus" is a real word. You can stop calling them "Locust" Grenades now.

I dunno how it is in the PC matches, but since Fused grenades have shown up, I haven't seen them even once in a public match...so I can't really see what the big deal is, even if the Fused and Thukker are radically different.

Thukkers have the power of a Core... which is insane, but with less range.

They are proto though, gonna be a while before I fork over ~1 million SP to get prototype nades (I'm at M1's right now, need 2 more levels).

Not exactly what I had in mind for ISK variant of impact nades, but I guess they won't get abused too much this way (until more people go lvl 5 nades).

Fused are still p2w though, as they require little to no SP investment, they are as powerful as STD nades, and are AUR only.

I haven't seen any contact grenades either since they been made available for Aurum. M2s the most lethal grenade to me still.

Lol, everyone is posting about something completely different than the intent of the OP.

Shame on you forum trolls, shame on you.

This was not a balance thread. This was not a MD thread.

This was simply pointing out that CCP doesn't seem to understand that apples do not equal oranges.

Also, the Thukker is perfectly balanced. The 2.5 meter radius is small. quite small. The core radius is huge, quite huge. The huge radius requires careful cooking (but not to careful with that splash radius). The contact Thukker requires precision.

Neither of them are the Fused Locus Grenade, which regardless of any argument about balance, or game breaking, does not have an isk equivalent.

To alleviate your collective confusion, I'll end this with a pointless demand (which you are all more comfortable with).

CCP Frame, reword your post to reflect that the Thukker serves as an isk approximation of the Fused Locus Grenade instead of an isk variant.

Fused Locus:
400 damage
6.0 radius (what?)
2 Max

Thukker:
600 damage
2.5 radius.
3 Max

Also note the CPU and PG req differences between the two nades.

Fused Locus:
400 damage
6.0 radius (what?)
2 Max

Thukker:
600 damage
2.5 radius.
3 Max

Agreed, any and every AUR item that does not have an indentical ISK variant, except for skillreq has to fall victim to the P2W sword.

They did great improvement since chromosome on that regard but the fused are a step in the wrong direction.

I do have to give them props for removing AUR variants that allowed for easier fitting than any ISK variant. That was definitely a sound anti-P2W move on their part. I can't say I was thrilled about ISK-variant variety being cut across most item types though.