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Chinduko KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 157	Posted - 2013.06.04 04:21:00 - [31] - Quote CCP should and are likely very worried about a 5.8 rating. Square Enix received a score like this on Final Fantasy XIV and hired a brand new team to fix it. A score of 5.8 is not good.
Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 104	Posted - 2013.06.04 04:22:00 - [32] - Quote i really hate 1 to 10 number systems where games are rated,a game is either good, bad( it's ****) or "meh",Dust scored a meh
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 279	Posted - 2013.06.04 04:35:00 - [33] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: i really hate 1 to 10 number systems where games are rated,a game is either good, bad( it's ****) or "meh",Dust scored a meh ok... how about if it was 1 out of 100. and the a scale was a whole carrot, there would only be 58% of the carrot.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1706	Posted - 2013.06.04 04:37:00 - [34] - Quote Don Von Hulio wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: i really hate 1 to 10 number systems where games are rated,a game is either good, bad( it's ****) or "meh",Dust scored a meh ok... how about if it was 1 out of 100. and the a scale was a whole carrot, there would only be 58% of the carrot. Top half, bottom half, horizontal split, mass wise?
Cygnus 2112 D3LTA ACADEMY 19	Posted - 2013.06.04 04:43:00 - [35] - Quote Kyro Justice wrote: DUST514 got a 5.8/10 on IGN, now I see the fanboys calling that "Average" and "Good" for an F2P, so let's do some math. 5.8/10 x 10 = 58/100 58/100 >Deci> 0.58 0.58 x 100 = 58% So...A 58% is not "Average" by any means, in most school systems average is a "C" (Generally 70% or higher) and in some (bad) households a "D" (60%) A 58% will have people failing with an F+ so please tell me. In what world is this average? Wait... When did we start taking IGN seriously? They have literally one reviewer worth listening to. Greg. If its not Greg I dont pay attention. No one else should ether.
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 279	Posted - 2013.06.04 04:52:00 - [36] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Don Von Hulio wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: i really hate 1 to 10 number systems where games are rated,a game is either good, bad( it's ****) or "meh",Dust scored a meh ok... how about if it was 1 out of 100. and the a scale was a whole carrot, there would only be 58% of the carrot. Top half, bottom half, horizontal split, mass wise? Lets confuse the young man, we must start out simple, then slowly bring him up to speed.
Numot MTG DUST University Ivy League 4	Posted - 2013.06.04 04:54:00 - [37] - Quote Hate to break it to you but ign did a halfassed review based on a few hours of dust. Never even got out of the acedemy. Tentonhammer in the hand spent a few days with dust and gave it a 8/10.
Joretur One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 2	Posted - 2013.06.04 04:58:00 - [38] - Quote So much failure in determining what "average" is. Well lets take every single score that has been given to games. Then we can find the Mean, Median and Mode of those scores. For those not familiar with these Mean: This is the avg. score. All scores added up then divided by the number of scores. Median: This is the "middle" score in the list Mode: The score that happens most. For the "average" score, the Mean, or the Mode would be the most useful in determining what qualifies as average...not some school system grading.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1857	Posted - 2013.06.04 05:05:00 - [39] - Quote OP isn't crazy. The "average grade" is around 70 for a game review and that is considered mediocre. The system heavily biases towards success since games that are truly awful either get axed in development or aren't even reviewed at all. When you understand this 58 is fairly troubling score. It basically means "not even good", not "average".
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 95	Posted - 2013.06.04 06:01:00 - [40] - Quote 5/10 is the right note for Rust514

Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 204	Posted - 2013.06.04 06:15:00 - [41] - Quote Kyro Justice wrote: DUST514 got a 5.8/10 on IGN, now I see the fanboys calling that "Average" and "Good" for an F2P, so let's do some math. 5.8/10 x 10 = 58/100 58/100 >Deci> 0.58 0.58 x 100 = 58% So...A 58% is not "Average" by any means, in most school systems average is a "C" (Generally 70% or higher) and in some (bad) households a "D" (60%) A 58% will have people failing with an F+ so please tell me. In what world is this average? I bet you feel good about transforming that fraction into a percentage, I mean seriously; did you need to show your working?
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire 470	Posted - 2013.06.04 06:43:00 - [42] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: i see you missed all my question marks. they show that its a question, not a statement. And I answered them. No to all of the above. The question was so far off that it sounded like a perfect Dust514 post to me. Guess it wasn't. Rats.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3216	Posted - 2013.06.04 07:33:00 - [43] - Quote I've spent time in over a dozen countries where the schooling system considered 50% to be a C grade and is sufficient to pass. We had exams that were difficult enough to actually be a legitimate challenge to the people doing it, and getting half the possible marks was considered an acceptable result. Achieving ABSOLUTE PERFECTION 50% of the time is pretty good. Finding the right answer with minor, easily corrected mistakes in your working 100% of the time is pretty good. Just because your schooling system is terrible, doesn't mean you should assume the entire world is based on the same terrible system. More to the point though, REVIEWS ARE NOT SCHOOL EXAMS. The rules are different from one to the next. And even more to the point, IGN are being taken seriously as a source of legitimate reviews now? When did that happen? Lets look at something with a better chance of resembling a valid result: Metacritic. It's ALSO unreliable, but it's less ridiculous than trusting a single review site, since it acts as an aggregate result for a variety of sites. Their result for DUST is 60%. Now lets use a LEGITIMATE method of working out an average. Open up the PS3 games list on Metacritic, set it to "all games" instead of "recent releases", then sort by metascore. Now you'll notice there are 11 pages. Only the first 7 include scores, and DUST 514 is on the 5th page. Now, rather than terrible math backed by ridiculous assumptions, you have a LOGICAL and RATIONAL argument that DUST is below average. You're welcome. And in spite of logic confirming the game is probably below average, I still enjoy it a lot more than the majority of current-gen FPS games. I'm not going to argue that the core mechanics are on a par with the Call of Duty and Battlefield series. The game has blatantly never performed as well as a legitimate AAA title. It's not ready for release, and slapping the "release" label on was a terrible idea. I can see the potential here for something so much better than the usual "AAA" junk title, and I hope CCP don't squander that potential, but right now, I can't honestly claim the game is in a fit state for a release-ready FPS.
Spectral Clone The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 21	Posted - 2013.06.04 07:41:00 - [44] - Quote http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/dust-514 Average score of critic reviews and player reviews.
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 281	Posted - 2013.06.04 07:52:00 - [45] - Quote ... so much fail in this thread. I dont know why everyone got so butthurt... 0.0-10.0 and 0-100 averages are the same damn thing. Some of you went fullretard.... and while this was occurring you guys took some posts out of context and then typed up a rant for no reason.... lolforums.
Panther Alpha Commando Perkone Caldari State 376	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:13:00 - [46] - Quote six out of teen (6/10) is "just" above average. But lets not forget, that the average score of Dust 514 across all reviewers and critics ( Worldwide ), is; four out of teen ( 4/10), which is "bellow" average.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 492	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:21:00 - [47] - Quote Kyro Justice wrote: DUST514 got a 5.8/10 on IGN, now I see the fanboys calling that "Average" and "Good" for an F2P, so let's do some math. 5.8/10 x 10 = 58/100 58/100 >Deci> 0.58 0.58 x 100 = 58% So...A 58% is not "Average" by any means, in most school systems average is a "C" (Generally 70% or higher) and in some (bad) households a "D" (60%) A 58% will have people failing with an F+ so please tell me. In what world is this average? Troll earns 2/10. Just really no soul in this one.
SuperKing BigNuts Contract Hunters 101	Posted - 2013.06.04 09:07:00 - [48] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: And in spite of logic confirming the game is probably below average, I still enjoy it a lot more than the majority of current-gen FPS games. I'm not going to argue that the core mechanics are on a par with the Call of Duty and Battlefield series. The game has blatantly never performed as well as a legitimate AAA title. It's not ready for release, and slapping the "release" label on was a terrible idea. I can see the potential here for something so much better than the usual "AAA" junk title, and I hope CCP don't squander that potential, but right now, I can't honestly claim the game is in a fit state for a release-ready FPS. i agree with most of this guys statements. DUST 514 is in pretty awful condition for having been 'officially launched' on a gimmick release date... not to mention the hype that they have put out about the game... "Persistence", "A game where death has meaning", etc... currently, most of the hype CCP has been building for the game, simply isnt there... its got ambition, but is still premature. if i had picked up a $60 game and had the experience ive had with DUST, id probably snap the disk and toss it out. if it wasnt for my extensive back-history in EVE, and knowing the ambitious goals that they have for DUST, i probably wouldnt have stuck around this long. when and if they ever get everything pieced together, the game has promise... but how far away is 'SOONGäó' Pending features: EVE-DUST connection... There is no REAL connection between the two... we have social capabilities, but aside from PC(currently only ONE region, hardly worth mention as far as im concerned), there are no benefits or drawbacks to 'interaction'(or more specifically the lack there of) between the two games... Economy... They want it to be a player driven economy, but they dont even have basic trading capabilities within dust or an option to sell anything back to NPCs, let alone linked EVE-DUST capabilities... Industry... heavily tied to the economy and with what theyve explained, also going to be heavily dependant upon EVE to do our production for us... Drones... or any real source of PVE Content to break up the monotony of spamming pub matches... every match is different, but every match is the same... it would be nice to be able to change things up and do ANYTHING ELSE for a while without having to resort to simply playing something other ... even an E-Sports or challenge mode? MCC Commander... ever changing tactical decisions made by the player... that was one of their initial drawing points, and we are nowhere near ready to support this yet... as far as im aware they dont have all of the installations that they demo'd and talked about before FANFEST-Build BETA first launched, let alone any sort of squad leader option to call in the currently existing assets. this is my understandings based on what theyve said they wanted to do with the game. i may be mistaken on any of these features, and im sure ive missed other features theyve talked about adding over the last few years, but i feel ive made my point regarding the hype theyve created and yet to live up to.
dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 47	Posted - 2013.06.04 09:39:00 - [49] - Quote Leither Yiltron wrote: Kyro Justice wrote: DUST514 got a 5.8/10 on IGN, now I see the fanboys calling that "Average" and "Good" for an F2P, so let's do some math. 5.8/10 x 10 = 58/100 58/100 >Deci> 0.58 0.58 x 100 = 58% So...A 58% is not "Average" by any means, in most school systems average is a "C" (Generally 70% or higher) and in some (bad) households a "D" (60%) A 58% will have people failing with an F+ so please tell me. In what world is this average? Troll earns 2/10. Just really no soul in this one. MY GOD, that's like, 2/10 x 10 = 20/100 20/100 >Deci> 0.20 0.20 x 100 = 20% That's like, way below 'Average' in most schools, WHAT ARE THEY TEACHING OUR KIDS
Raizor Feddie Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS. 55	Posted - 2013.06.04 16:07:00 - [50] - Quote I don't know about OP's logic, but yeah, game is kind of "Bad-seeming" take into account I said "Seeming" not to say it doesn't have potential, but it seems like the game was graded on said potential, instead of it's actual gameplay and I think 5.8/10 is kind of generous for all the Broken promises, Broken controls, Broken Balance, SP disparities, Broken Matchmaking, Ignored Feedback and Nerf hammers.

Karl Koekwaus Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 82	Posted - 2013.06.04 16:33:00 - [51] - Quote on a grade scale of 0-10 a 5.8 is average. It's a pass and fun can be had, but don't expect a flawless game. However, gamesites handing out 10/10 or 9.5/10 on every other game are just to be ignored, as they don't know how to grade.
Mobias Wyvern Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 73	Posted - 2013.07.06 09:14:00 - [52] - Quote Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year 1080p Ultra settings at Night Intense Open Field Battle 100 Man Infantry Objective Push Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Planetside 2 Machinima Factions Explained Why you should Play Planetside 2 From Vets


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