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Kyro Justice Algintal Core Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:49:00 - [1] - Quote DUST514 got a 5.8/10 on IGN, now I see the fanboys calling that "Average" and "Good" for an F2P, so let's do some math. 5.8/10 x 10 = 58/100 58/100 >Deci> 0.58 0.58 x 100 = 58% So...A 58% is not "Average" by any means, in most school systems average is a "C" (Generally 70% or higher) and in some (bad) households a "D" (60%) A 58% will have people failing with an F+ so please tell me. In what world is this average?
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1596	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:52:00 - [2] - Quote Depends on who you are and where you're from. For example, me getting an F on my English Paper was average. My entire class's average of getting an F, was pretty average for the school 50% is not great, but not terrible, it's half way between 0 and 100, average.
Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1878	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:53:00 - [3] - Quote Trololol. Why are you applying school grading to that figure?
Kyro Justice Algintal Core Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:53:00 - [4] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Depends on who you are and where you're from. For example, me getting an F on my English Paper was average. My entire class's average of getting an F, was pretty average for the school 50% is not great, but not terrible, it's half way between 0 and 100, average. Where the hell did you go to school?! In most places "F" stands for failure, or...The character F if you have characters instead of words.
Mike Poole Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 102	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:53:00 - [5] - Quote Don't try to argue this here or the same fanboys will just insist that it's not ccp's fault they put marketing ahead of development and released a game that should still be in beta for months more before getting anywhere close to a reviewer.
Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1878	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:55:00 - [6] - Quote Kyro Justice wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: Depends on who you are and where you're from. For example, me getting an F on my English Paper was average. My entire class's average of getting an F, was pretty average for the school 50% is not great, but not terrible, it's half way between 0 and 100, average. Where the hell did you go to school?! In most places "F" stands for failure, or...The character F if you have characters instead of words. Are the tests that school grading is based on marked out of ten before a grade is applied?
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us ROFL BROS 156	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:55:00 - [7] - Quote thats not how you calculate "average"
Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1878	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:57:00 - [8] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: thats not how you calculate "average" For the record, IGN's average score is 6.888.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4851	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:58:00 - [9] - Quote It depends, there are a few sites I know that has yet to give our a 9 or a 10 to any game and 5 is considered fair value for the price.
Kyro Justice Algintal Core Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:59:00 - [10] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: thats not how you calculate "average" No what YOU'RE saying is that's not how you calculate ""Averages"" I'm calculating the score and comparing it to the streamlined average, which for IGN is apparently 6.888. Still fell short hm?

Setaceous Prime Nexus Prima 54	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:59:00 - [11] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: Trololol. Why are you applying school grading to that figure? Because that's the "fact" that most supported his argument. He's well on his way to becoming a reasonable lawyer or politician.
Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1879	Posted - 2013.06.04 00:59:00 - [12] - Quote Kyro Justice wrote: 5.8/10 x 10 = 58/100 58/100 >Deci> 0.58 0.58 x 100 = 58% It took you three operations to turn 5.8/10 into a percentage. Lol. It took you two to turn 58/100 into one!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4852	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:00:00 - [13] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: Kyro Justice wrote: 5.8/10 x 10 = 58/100 58/100 >Deci> 0.58 0.58 x 100 = 58% It took you three operations to turn 5.8/10 into a percentage. Lol. It took you two to turn 58/100 into one! The magic of algebra both answers are right.
Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1879	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:01:00 - [14] - Quote Kyro Justice wrote: Chances Ghost wrote: thats not how you calculate "average" No what YOU'RE saying is that's not how you calculate ""Averages"" I'm calculating the score and comparing it to the streamlined average, which for IGN is apparently 6.888. Still fell short hm? That's not what you were doing at all. You were grading it on the, I assume American, letter grading system for some yet to be determined reason.
Cere Harkens Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:02:00 - [15] - Quote If it's a true 1-10 scale, then 5.5 is average, that being the midpoint of the scale. (The sum of 1 to 10 is 55, then divide by 10.) The score of 5.8 is pretty close to 5.5, so their characterization of it as average is spot-on. Don't impose a school grading system on other systems that have nothing to do with academics. Only in academics is a score around 75% classified as average. Everywhere else, it's 50%.
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire 468	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:11:00 - [16] - Quote I only gave it 5/10 which is Mediocre in IGN Speak. Not that far off the 5.8 that IGN dished out. The user community on IGN rates it 7.6 though (GMT 0100, 4 June, 2013) and that is Good. Don't forget that between Mediocre and Good is Okay. So there is some ground that has to be covered to get to Good in IGNs eyes. Chromosome was 7.5 for me. What does it mean? Nothing. You like it, you play it. You want to support it, buy SomeSillyThing Pack. Buy two. You don't want to? Don't. Life goes on.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 772	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:15:00 - [17] - Quote This argument is ridiculous. In any job if you do only half the assigned task, and say "dont worry its average" you would he fired so quick! 58/100 is bad no matter how you spin it. I'm not gonna commentate on the validity of IGN's score as I have done that in other threads but all of you trying to twist 5.8/10 into being ok is making me incredulous. >CCP promises AAA game quality >gets at BEST a mediocre rating ... Just going on ratings alone, thats a pretty meh reaction. (not going on what I personally think, just the facts) I dont see why you guys are bashing the OP
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us ROFL BROS 156	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:21:00 - [18] - Quote Kyro Justice wrote: Chances Ghost wrote: thats not how you calculate "average" No what YOU'RE saying is that's not how you calculate ""Averages"" I'm calculating the score and comparing it to the streamlined average, which for IGN is apparently 6.888. Still fell short hm? you were comparing it to failing English, you did not mention the 6.8
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us ROFL BROS 156	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:22:00 - [19] - Quote isnt IGN owned by EA? aka hgas an invested interest in giving bad reviews to competition?
Gotyougood Planet Express LLC 1	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:34:00 - [20] - Quote It shouldn't be up for review until its on the the PS4. PS3 even when new was never a graphical powerhouse. Not really expecting PS4 to be either but more resources wont hurt the development effort.

hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 194	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:40:00 - [21] - Quote Kyro Justice wrote: DUST514 got a 5.8/10 on IGN, now I see the fanboys calling that "Average" and "Good" for an F2P, so let's do some math. 5.8/10 x 10 = 58/100 58/100 >Deci> 0.58 0.58 x 100 = 58% So...A 58% is not "Average" by any means, in most school systems average is a "C" (Generally 70% or higher) and in some (bad) households a "D" (60%) A 58% will have people failing with an F+ so please tell me. In what world is this average? well lets say there are 100 games. 42 games were ranked above 58 games and 58 games were ranked below 42 games. Int hat case the game ranked 58 would be average... Of course you are right that this is not how IGN does it and i suspect they rank more games above 5.8 then they do below it. A strict reading of the IGN's rating is that Dust is below average....pretty accurate if you ask me. Of course among PS3 shooters that support mouse and keyboard it is ranked number one as it is the only PS3 shooter i am aware of that does support it....so sadly i am sticky around to play this below average game.
Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1524	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:45:00 - [22] - Quote People are confusing the midpoint of a measurement scale for an average. To calculate an average you need to specify the population, then: AVG = SUM( all observations) / number of observations So if five games were given (2,3,7,5,3) on a scale of 1-10 the average would be: (20)/5 = 4 If a game received 4 out of 10, it would be an average game.
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire 468	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:55:00 - [23] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: isnt IGN owned by EA? aka hgas an invested interest in giving bad reviews to competition? A that would be a nope. EA just got the licenses to make Star Wars games. That fantasy has some truth to it. Yours, not so much. Although, you might be thinking about Blizzard picking up the IGN eSports group (IPL) recently. Which has nothing to do with this. Also the term you used was invested but the term you meant was vested. Invested in putting resources into a venture and vested means you have a personal interest (financial in your usage) in the outcome. TL;DR Wrong information, incorrect assumptions and bad word choice. A perfect Dust514 post.
Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1888	Posted - 2013.06.04 01:57:00 - [24] - Quote Skihids wrote: People are confusing the midpoint of a measurement scale for an average. To calculate an average you need to specify the population, then: AVG = SUM( all observations) / number of observations So if five games were given (2,3,7,5,3) on a scale of 1-10 the average would be: (20)/5 = 4 If a game received 4 out of 10, it would be an average game. IGN's average is 6.8 recurring.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1597	Posted - 2013.06.04 02:00:00 - [25] - Quote Kyro Justice wrote: Jason Pearson wrote: Depends on who you are and where you're from. For example, me getting an F on my English Paper was average. My entire class's average of getting an F, was pretty average for the school 50% is not great, but not terrible, it's half way between 0 and 100, average. Where the hell did you go to school?! In most places "F" stands for failure, or...The character F if you have characters instead of words. Apparantly CCP doesn't let me post HTML.. despite it just being text, am confused. Yes, F for failure.. my school is one of the lowest in the country for test scores, it was a beautiful place.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us ROFL BROS 159	Posted - 2013.06.04 02:07:00 - [26] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Chances Ghost wrote: isnt IGN owned by EA? aka hgas an invested interest in giving bad reviews to competition? A that would be a nope. EA just got the licenses to make Star Wars games. That fantasy has some truth to it. Yours, not so much. Although, you might be thinking about Blizzard picking up the IGN eSports group (IPL) recently. Which has nothing to do with this. Also the term you used was invested but the term you meant was vested. Invested in putting resources into a venture and vested means you have a personal interest (financial in your usage) in the outcome. TL;DR Wrong information, incorrect assumptions and bad word choice. A perfect Dust514 post. i see you missed all my question marks. they show that its a question, not a statement.
dustwaffle Ill Omens EoN. 43	Posted - 2013.06.04 03:52:00 - [27] - Quote What we learned in this thread: 1. People are bad at maths 2. Some of us use arbitrary school grading systems to apply to highly subjective systems 3. Some of us went to **** schools 4. People will moan and gripe about something, and yet still put themselves through it 5. People need justification to do anything as they are unable to think for themselves (A game is bad according to X, so it must be bad, therefore I will tell everyone how bad it is, because X said so) Pretty informative day so far
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1706	Posted - 2013.06.04 04:00:00 - [28] - Quote Considering most schools pass everyone, of course they consider 70% "average" Only complete dumbasses can't get at least a C What the school tells you is 70% is more like 50%, they just don't want you to feel bad.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1706	Posted - 2013.06.04 04:15:00 - [29] - Quote Let me explain it in a bit more detail Few people get As Few people get Fs Lots of people get Cs, therefore C, or 70%, is average.... for schools. However, getting less than a 50% grade in most schools is almost impossible, they give you points for attendance FFS, therefore the bottom 50% is worthless, since very few people actually get scores that low.
Don Von Hulio Not Guilty EoN. 277	Posted - 2013.06.04 04:17:00 - [30] - Quote I consider 5.8 a rather generous rating from IGN. What i wouldve give it was a, "Aquaman/10"



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