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Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:28:00 -
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No. Is a different way to make money from a game. Nothing is "free" in life. Why i just make a thread about this, you may ask.
Because I getting kitten sick of hearing people saying, that We have not rights, because is a F2P game.
CCP is making money from Dust 514 with AUR... EvE is not paying for Dust 514, CCP is paying for Dust 514. |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
383
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:30:00 -
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You don't have to pay to play or have any type of in-game advantage over other players. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers EoN.
74
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:36:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:You don't have to pay to have any type of in-game advantage over other players.
I'm goin to have to disagree with you on this one... |
Tectonious Falcon
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
512
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:38:00 -
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I've never spent money on DUST and I still play it. Completely for free. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3203
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:38:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:DS 10 wrote:You don't have to pay to have any type of in-game advantage over other players. I'm goin to have to disagree with you on this one... Name 3 pay-to-win items that CCP haven't already announced plans to fix or release an ISK version of? |
Amorale Lyadstafer
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:40:00 -
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Every game is pay to play, free to play games usually being more expencive |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
372
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:41:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:XiBravo wrote:DS 10 wrote:You don't have to pay to have any type of in-game advantage over other players. I'm goin to have to disagree with you on this one... Name 3 pay-to-win items that CCP haven't already announced plans to fix or release an ISK version of?
Let me ask you a question... :
If Dust 514 is truly "Free", why the game have a cash currency ( AUR ). ? |
Israckcatarac
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
23
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:42:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:No. Is a different way to make money from a game. Nothing is "free" in life. Why i just make a thread about this, you may ask.
Because I getting kitten sick of hearing people saying, that We have not rights, because is a F2P game.
CCP is making money from Dust 514 with AUR... EvE is not paying for Dust 514, CCP is paying for Dust 514. Is your name signed on the bottom of CCP employees pay checks? Didn't think so. Wait wait wait there is still one way that you could have right's to dust um no never mind that won't work. Guess you have no right's.
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XiBravo
TeamPlayers EoN.
74
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:43:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:XiBravo wrote:DS 10 wrote:You don't have to pay to have any type of in-game advantage over other players. I'm goin to have to disagree with you on this one... Name 3 pay-to-win items that CCP haven't already announced plans to fix or release an ISK version of?
Without even looking at items ... More HP, higher damage, faster movement. The boosters create a gap between players that cannot be closed with the cap also increasing ... And SP is the name of the game in Dust 514 |
Vavilia Lysenko
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:43:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Why i just make a thread about this, you may ask.
Because we really needed another one of these threads?
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HK Rage
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
14
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:43:00 -
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Honestly this game isn't even close to pay to win, you can pretty much get everything brought with Aurum, even better items than Aurum versions. I see this game more as Pay to Advance or P2A because of the boasters but honestly its not that big of a deal.
The main bottom line is that they have to make money some way or another, they are a company and a company making no money is a bad company. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
93
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:44:00 -
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nope , MP games branded F2P are not really FREE , i understand devs need to make money but P2W is not the way
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
268
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:44:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:XiBravo wrote:DS 10 wrote:You don't have to pay to have any type of in-game advantage over other players. I'm goin to have to disagree with you on this one... Name 3 pay-to-win items that CCP haven't already announced plans to fix or release an ISK version of? Let me ask you a question... : If Dust 514 is truly "Free", why the game have a cash currency ( AUR ). ? Can you define 'Free to Play' for me ... I'm having trouble understanding it !? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3203
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:45:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:XiBravo wrote:DS 10 wrote:You don't have to pay to have any type of in-game advantage over other players. I'm goin to have to disagree with you on this one... Name 3 pay-to-win items that CCP haven't already announced plans to fix or release an ISK version of? Let me ask you a question... : If Dust 514 is truly "Free", why the game have a cash currency ( AUR ). ? For exactly what it says the money is for. To let you do more, faster.
You get to do things a character of your SP can't normally manage, using the next tier of equipment above what you've skilled into. You get occasional low-grade Blueprint items, allowing you to save ISK for the more expensive high-grade gear once you're skilled into it.
There have been times where CCP have made mistakes, and there have been items that were released in a state that makes them objectively better in some way than the closest ISK equivalent. These are considered mistakes by CCP, and when called on them, they've mostly been good about fixing the problems. |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
372
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:49:00 -
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Needless Sacermendor wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:XiBravo wrote:DS 10 wrote:You don't have to pay to have any type of in-game advantage over other players. I'm goin to have to disagree with you on this one... Name 3 pay-to-win items that CCP haven't already announced plans to fix or release an ISK version of? Let me ask you a question... : If Dust 514 is truly "Free", why the game have a cash currency ( AUR ). ? Can you define 'Free to Play' for me ... I'm having trouble understanding it !?
The "get one, get one free" logic. You don't really getting a "Free" thing, because you paying double in the 1st place. Oldest trick in the book. |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
53
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:54:00 -
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Technically it is not free because you have to invest time (opportunity costs and all that jazz) but it can be financially free if you believe that you do not require to purchase ingame items with your money. F2P is really based on one's individual choices. |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
372
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:16:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:XiBravo wrote:DS 10 wrote:You don't have to pay to have any type of in-game advantage over other players. I'm goin to have to disagree with you on this one... Name 3 pay-to-win items that CCP haven't already announced plans to fix or release an ISK version of?
I can say 2 BIG ones.
- BPO's that allow you to make ISK faster. ( Access to Proto gear in regular basics )
- Passive SP boosters that give you a HUGE skills advantage. |
Duran Lex
Silver Talon Corporation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:21:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:No. Is a different way to make money from a game. Nothing is "free" in life. Why i just make a thread about this, you may ask.
Because I getting kitten sick of hearing people saying, that We have not rights, because is a F2P game.
CCP is making money from Dust 514 with AUR... EvE is not paying for Dust 514, CCP is paying for Dust 514.
No...just no. It's not possible to be that stupid.
is it?
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Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
373
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:22:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:No. Is a different way to make money from a game. Nothing is "free" in life. Why i just make a thread about this, you may ask.
Because I getting kitten sick of hearing people saying, that We have not rights, because is a F2P game.
CCP is making money from Dust 514 with AUR... EvE is not paying for Dust 514, CCP is paying for Dust 514. No...just no. It's not possible to be that stupid. is it?
Who ? you or me ? |
WhiteMage7322
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:39:00 -
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For me, "Free" is when I don't need to use a single dime and with Dust I haven't used a cent. I even got some AUR from the starter pack when it was free on PSN. for PS+. Sure, you can say time is being used on Dust but then again time is free after all. XD |
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XiBravo
TeamPlayers EoN.
74
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:41:00 -
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You could go to a gym and be a punching bag for free too. |
Numot MTG
DUST University Ivy League
3
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:43:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:XiBravo wrote:DS 10 wrote:You don't have to pay to have any type of in-game advantage over other players. I'm goin to have to disagree with you on this one... Name 3 pay-to-win items that CCP haven't already announced plans to fix or release an ISK version of? I can say 2 BIG ones. - BPO's that allow you to make ISK faster. ( Access to Proto gear in regular basics ) - Passive SP boosters that give you a HUGE skills advantage.
You sir are an idiot. Those items give you no advantage over other players at all. You get you ISK and SP faster then I can. Ok, so what if I get my new toy a week after you get it? I still get all the same items you get. You have no advantage.
We really need a dislike button that we can hit on guys like you. |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
373
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Posted - 2013.06.03 13:55:00 -
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Numot MTG wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:XiBravo wrote:DS 10 wrote:You don't have to pay to have any type of in-game advantage over other players. I'm goin to have to disagree with you on this one... Name 3 pay-to-win items that CCP haven't already announced plans to fix or release an ISK version of? I can say 2 BIG ones. - BPO's that allow you to make ISK faster. ( Access to Proto gear in regular basics ) - Passive SP boosters that give you a HUGE skills advantage. You sir are an idiot. Those items give you no advantage over other players at all. You get you ISK and SP faster then I can. Ok, so what if I get my new toy a week after you get it? I still get all the same items you get. You have no advantage. We really need a dislike button that we can hit on guys like you.
Fact 1: Is a 6,000,000+ sp CAP, because people are been using passive boosters every week.
Fact 2 : BPO's don't cost ISK to run, and they are as effective as the ISK equivalents. You can get Proto gear 3 times faster using BPO's.
That is Pay To Win.... Sorry if you dislike the truth. |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
54
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:06:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:
That is Pay To Win.... Sorry if you dislike the truth.
You're mistaking pay to win with pay to get proto gear. Proto gear and winning are not mutually exclusive.
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Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
373
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:08:00 -
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Lilah Silverstone wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:
That is Pay To Win.... Sorry if you dislike the truth.
You're mistaking pay to win with pay to get proto gear. Proto gear and winning are not mutually exclusive.
Wat !?!?
( Facepalm ) |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
223
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:10:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote: Fact 1: Is a 6,000,000+ sp CAP, because people are been using passive boosters every week.
Fact 2 : BPO's don't cost ISK to run, and they are as effective as the ISK equivalents. You can get Proto gear 3 times faster using BPO's.
That is Pay To Win.... Sorry if you dislike the truth.
Read up the definition of P2W.
Hint: You're wrong. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
17
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:11:00 -
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Who cares if it's pay to win your wrong but who cares it's a company not a charity organization. Listen go start up a company make a free game figure out how you're going to pay your employees. Then come back and tell us the results of said fail experiment.
I'm smart enough to know nothing in life is free or fair, if CCP wants to sell AUR items that give a slight advantage MORE POWER TO THEM, guess what I will buy it. Tears I love it |
Interplanetary Insanitarium
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:16:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:No. Is a different way to make money from a game. Nothing is "free" in life. Why i just make a thread about this, you may ask.
Because I getting kitten sick of hearing people saying, that We have not rights, because is a F2P game.
CCP is making money from Dust 514 with AUR... EvE is not paying for Dust 514, CCP is paying for Dust 514.
We don't have rights when it comes to this software. Period. We all agreed to their EULA to access this software. And for all intents and purposes this game is Free to Play, even if people can choose to pay money for additional content. I haven't spent anything except for what internet and electricity costs. When the issues in the game get ironed out enough I'll be willing to consider paying money. |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
373
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:16:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Who cares if it's pay to win your wrong but who cares it's a company not a charity organization. Listen go start up a company make a free game figure out how you're going to pay your employees. Then come back and tell us the results of said fail experiment. I'm smart enough to know nothing in life is free or fair, if CCP wants to sell AUR items that give a slight advantage MORE POWER TO THEM, guess what I will buy it. Tears I love it
That is exactly my point...
The game may be F2P... what we still are "Paying" costumers. Some people thinks that F2P means; that CCP is doing all this to keep EvE players happy ...And that is far from the truth. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3210
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Posted - 2013.06.03 14:20:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:XiBravo wrote:DS 10 wrote:You don't have to pay to have any type of in-game advantage over other players. I'm goin to have to disagree with you on this one... Name 3 pay-to-win items that CCP haven't already announced plans to fix or release an ISK version of? I can say 2 BIG ones. - BPO's that allow you to make ISK faster. ( Access to Proto gear in regular basics ) - Passive SP boosters that give you a HUGE skills advantage. BPOs that let you earn the normal in-game currency FASTER, but don't give you access to anything that a non-paying player can get? SP Boosters that let you skill up FASTER, but don't give you access to anything that a non-paying player can get?
Yep. That's totally pay-to-win. |
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