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Grit Breather
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:15:00 -
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Adam Average wrote:After reading the amount of SP you suggest, i must say no. 36 SP is clearly too much, for it'll allow me access to upgrade a skill from level 1 to level 3, instead of me upgrading from level 1 to level 2 because i was lacking 36 SP. So yes, i support this. Exactly! I had a long sit down about these figures and my calculations ran across quite a few whiteboards. These seemed to make the most sense. |
Adam Average
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:20:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:Adam Average wrote:After reading the amount of SP you suggest, i must say no. 36 SP is clearly too much, for it'll allow me access to upgrade a skill from level 1 to level 3, instead of me upgrading from level 1 to level 2 because i was lacking 36 SP. So yes, i support this. Exactly! I had a long sit down about these figures and my calculations ran across quite a few whiteboards. These seemed to make the most sense.
If i understand you correctly. The 18 Lifetime war points are to balance out the 36 SP gained for those in academy so that they didn't gain SP for nothing. No one should support this. Brilliant calculations and consideration. I'm amazed at how you figured this out so quickly in the time the servers were down. |
xaerael Kabiel
Goonfeet
120
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:21:00 -
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I think 36 is way too low. 42 is a far better number.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_The_Ultimate_Question_of_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything#Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life.2C_the_Universe.2C_and_Everything_.2842.29 |
Grit Breather
BetaMax. CRONOS.
712
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:23:00 -
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While I think we can all appreciate the invaluable powers hidden in '42', I think such a high value would unbalance DUST as we know it and give an unfair advantage to veterans over new players. I stand by my original request for 36 SP.
I have added an image of my intricate calculations here for everyone's review. |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French CRONOS.
1499
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:26:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:We all know EVE and DUST were down for the better part of yesterday and this morning due to a DDoS attack on CCP. While I'm sure we all appreciate CCP's valiant and sleepless efforts to overcome this, we must also acknowledge both games were down. I think we, as a community, should be compensated for this loss. I think every DUST mercenary should be awarded 18 WP and 36 SP. In addition we should all be granted exclusive BPOs to jet placeholders similar to the following. Who's with me? Like this post if you agree!
Informational message : Not seeing this post is a massive trolljoke and not a QQ thread means you need some sleep and some reading lessons |
xaerael Kabiel
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:30:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:While I think we can all appreciate the invaluable powers hidden in '42', I think such a high value would unbalance DUST as we know it and give an unfair advantage to veterans over new players. I stand by my original request for 36 SP. I have added an image of my intricate calculations here for everyone's review.
True, anyone given 42 SP would be transformed into Omnipotent megatitans, who's mere footsteps would dwarf the power of all else. Planetary conquest would turn into planetary conkers, and everyone would be able to sit on the couch in their quarters. A catastrophe, I'm sure everyone would agree. |
Adam Average
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:31:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Informational message : Not seeing this post is a massive trolljoke and not a QQ thread means you need some sleep and some reading lessons
To be honest, i'm quite happy it was this type of post, allowed me to just smile. Need a good laugh once in awhile. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
140
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:39:00 -
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i think we don't need any compensation if our personal data have not been touched. |
Dale Templar
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
62
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:41:00 -
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Level 5 Everything pl0x. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax. CRONOS.
713
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:44:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:i think we don't need any compensation if our personal data have not been touched. And what about the great loss to your in-game income? This should all be covered by the 18 WP and 36 SP compensation. |
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
140
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:50:00 -
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less than 24 hours without the possibility to play, it's not that much, they will reimburse passive sp, but this is not a compensation, it's a normal thing. However CCP has announced some form of compensation here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=84318&find=unread |
Grit Breather
BetaMax. CRONOS.
713
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:52:00 -
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I just hope CCP will be wise enough to give us my very precisely calculated 18 WP and 36 SP. Any less would be a grave injustice! |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:55:00 -
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I think 10WP and 20SP are totally sufficient.
And they shouldn't give us a new BPO, they should upgrade our free LAVs to be the new Speeders that are coming. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
140
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:57:00 -
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Speeders? Are them dirt bikes? |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
38
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:58:00 -
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While they don't have to give us anything, how about double bonus SP when the weekly cap is reset? |
Grit Breather
BetaMax. CRONOS.
713
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:59:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I think 10WP and 20SP are more than sufficient. There's no legitimate reason why we should get as much compensation as the OP suggests.
And they shouldn't give us a new BPO, they should upgrade our current free LAVs to be the new Speeders that are coming. I don't think you have given it enough thought. Let me post my intricate calculations again so you can appreciate how I got to 18 WP and 36 SP.
Grit Breather wrote:I have added an image of my intricate calculations here for everyone's review. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3194
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:17:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:I think 10WP and 20SP are more than sufficient. There's no legitimate reason why we should get as much compensation as the OP suggests.
And they shouldn't give us a new BPO, they should upgrade our current free LAVs to be the new Speeders that are coming. I don't think you have given it enough thought. Let me post my intricate calculations again so you can appreciate how I got to 18 WP and 36 SP. Grit Breather wrote:I have added an image of my intricate calculations here for everyone's review. And my intricate calculations here say that we should only get 8 SP, 8 WP and a lie. |
Adam Average
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:21:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Grit Breather wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:I think 10WP and 20SP are more than sufficient. There's no legitimate reason why we should get as much compensation as the OP suggests.
And they shouldn't give us a new BPO, they should upgrade our current free LAVs to be the new Speeders that are coming. I don't think you have given it enough thought. Let me post my intricate calculations again so you can appreciate how I got to 18 WP and 36 SP. Grit Breather wrote:I have added an image of my intricate calculations here for everyone's review. And my intricate calculations here say that we should only get 8 SP, 8 WP and a lie.
I see numbers within your calculations that shows that they are flawed. 8x3? Seriously? Use better maths next time. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax. CRONOS.
715
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:23:00 -
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Adam Average wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Grit Breather wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:I think 10WP and 20SP are more than sufficient. There's no legitimate reason why we should get as much compensation as the OP suggests.
And they shouldn't give us a new BPO, they should upgrade our current free LAVs to be the new Speeders that are coming. I don't think you have given it enough thought. Let me post my intricate calculations again so you can appreciate how I got to 18 WP and 36 SP. Grit Breather wrote:I have added an image of my intricate calculations here for everyone's review. And my intricate calculations here say that we should only get 8 SP, 8 WP and a lie. I see numbers within your calculations that shows that they are flawed. 8x3? Seriously? Use better maths next time. I agree with my educated friend here. It is easy to see how you got to 8 WP and 8 SP through the errors in your left pane step. I suggest you go back to a clean whiteboard. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:28:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:We all know EVE and DUST were down for the better part of yesterday and this morning due to a DDoS attack on CCP. While I'm sure we all appreciate CCP's valiant and sleepless efforts to overcome this, we must also acknowledge both games were down. I think we, as a community, should be compensated for this loss. I think every DUST mercenary should be awarded 18 WP and 36 SP. In addition we should all be granted exclusive BPOs to jet placeholders similar to the following. Who's with me? Like this post if you agree!
It's a free game you gets nothing noob, EVE on the other hand is a paid subscription so EVE players like myself should get a little something. |
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Grit Breather
BetaMax. CRONOS.
717
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:29:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Grit Breather wrote:We all know EVE and DUST were down for the better part of yesterday and this morning due to a DDoS attack on CCP. While I'm sure we all appreciate CCP's valiant and sleepless efforts to overcome this, we must also acknowledge both games were down. I think we, as a community, should be compensated for this loss. I think every DUST mercenary should be awarded 18 WP and 36 SP. In addition we should all be granted exclusive BPOs to jet placeholders similar to the following. Who's with me? Like this post if you agree! It's a free game you gets nothing noob, EVE on the other hand is a paid subscription so EVE players like myself should get a little something. We lost a half a day and a whole night of legitimate gameplay. My calculations stand and I am adamant we deserve exactly 18 WP and 36 SP. This MUST be met! |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
635
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:30:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Grit Breather wrote:We all know EVE and DUST were down for the better part of yesterday and this morning due to a DDoS attack on CCP. While I'm sure we all appreciate CCP's valiant and sleepless efforts to overcome this, we must also acknowledge both games were down. I think we, as a community, should be compensated for this loss. I think every DUST mercenary should be awarded 18 WP and 36 SP. In addition we should all be granted exclusive BPOs to jet placeholders similar to the following. Who's with me? Like this post if you agree! It's a free game you gets nothing noob, EVE on the other hand is a paid subscription so EVE players like myself should get a little something. We lost a half a day and a whole night of legitimate gameplay. My calculations stand and I am adamant we deserve exactly 18 WP and 36 SP. This MUST be met! These calculations are some of the finest mathematics I have seen from the human race. This man puts physicists to shame. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3197
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:32:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:Adam Average wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:And my intricate calculations here say that we should only get 8 SP, 8 WP and a lie. I see numbers within your calculations that shows that they are flawed. 8x3? Seriously? Use better maths next time. I agree with my educated friend here. It is easy to see how you got to 8 WP and 8 SP through the errors in your left pane step. I suggest you go back to a clean whiteboard. You're right.
We should get this much. |
Adam Average
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:32:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:KING SALASI wrote:Grit Breather wrote:We all know EVE and DUST were down for the better part of yesterday and this morning due to a DDoS attack on CCP. While I'm sure we all appreciate CCP's valiant and sleepless efforts to overcome this, we must also acknowledge both games were down. I think we, as a community, should be compensated for this loss. I think every DUST mercenary should be awarded 18 WP and 36 SP. In addition we should all be granted exclusive BPOs to jet placeholders similar to the following. Who's with me? Like this post if you agree! It's a free game you gets nothing noob, EVE on the other hand is a paid subscription so EVE players like myself should get a little something. We lost a half a day and a whole night of legitimate gameplay. My calculations stand and I am adamant we deserve exactly 18 WP and 36 SP. This MUST be met!
He was asking about EVE grit. Though i believe it would perfectly work for EVE pilots. This can't possibly work. 18 WP (somehow?) and 36 SP to a random skill that is set to be trained.
I completely stand by your calculations, for they even work for EVE pilots. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:35:00 -
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The community troll approves of your post. You have my blessing. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax. CRONOS.
722
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:45:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:The community troll approves of your post. You have my blessing. Do my complex calculations stand up to your logic? |
steadyhand amarr
Amarr Immortal Volunteers
649
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:48:00 -
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Troll is supper effective. Just goes to prove most people read the title and first line and then post what ever hits their head.
Also I think 10sp. Is fine we don't need more than that :-) |
Grit Breather
BetaMax. CRONOS.
722
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:49:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Also I think 10sp. Is fine we don't need more than that :-) I think 10 SP would be way too low. We did lose an entire night of gameplay after all. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
236
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:50:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:The community troll approves of your post. You have my blessing. Do my complex calculations stand up to your logic? Indeed they do. I especially liked how you managed to add tomato sauce and onions to them! However, your calculations are not complete! It should be: V = Pi(z*z)a Tr = V / 0 |
Grit Breather
BetaMax. CRONOS.
723
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:04:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Grit Breather wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:The community troll approves of your post. You have my blessing. Do my complex calculations stand up to your logic? Indeed they do. I especially liked how you managed to add tomato sauce and onions to them! However, your calculations are not complete! It should be: V = Pi(z*z)a T = V * V R = T ^ 0.5 O = Rmeow L1 = O - meow L2 = L1 / 0 While these calculations do indeed add dimensions of compensation I did not take into consideration, they do not seem to change the final outcome. Even after putting all my numbers through your grueling formulas I still get 18 WP and 36 SP as the most beneficial compensation amount for everyone. |
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