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Johnny Guilt Algintal Core Gallente Federation 100	Posted - 2013.05.30 22:11:00 - [1] - Quote So the Tac is getting adjusted soon,so what are you tryhards going to jump on next?
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 175	Posted - 2013.05.30 22:13:00 - [2] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: So the Tac is getting adjusted soon,so what are you tryhards going to jump on next? your ma
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 141	Posted - 2013.05.30 22:13:00 - [3] - Quote Nova knives
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 141	Posted - 2013.05.30 22:13:00 - [4] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: So the Tac is getting adjusted soon,so what are you tryhards going to jump on next? your ma Holy **** he just destroyed you right there! You should add a: /thread To your post :D
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 155	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:06:00 - [5] - Quote Scrambler rifles. I'm calling it now
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 105	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:09:00 - [6] - Quote OP is the kind of person that played laser tag with the Viziam + 4x CDMs and SS prof 5. Let's see how well you can stand when you don't have your crutch, scrub. I'm actually welcoming the nerf so I can pick up the TAR and kill people without being associated with cryhards like you.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1725	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:12:00 - [7] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: So the Tac is getting adjusted soon,so what are you tryhards going to jump on next? Nothing, because the AR set will be balanced and you can actually pick the one you like best and use it without getting raped in every engagement by the ultimate omni-gun of doom. The only adjustments they're making are ones that will fit it better into the role it was designed to fill.
Zekain K Expert Intervention Caldari State 78	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:12:00 - [8] - Quote The burst looks pretty kewl.
Protocake JR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 71	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:21:00 - [9] - Quote The semi Scram rifle will be the next OP weapon if it CCP increases it's range disproportionately against all the other ARs
McFurious BetaMax. CRONOS. 88	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:25:00 - [10] - Quote I'm looking forward to trying it out for it's intended role. Mainly I'm just looking forward to seeing more weapon variety on the battlefield in general.

Talos Alomar Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 835	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:34:00 - [11] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: The semi Scram rifle will be the next OP weapon if it CCP increases it's range disproportionately against all the other ARs They better not make my scrambler OP. They halved the range on my pistols, they destroyed my laser rifle but they can't take my scram from me.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 105	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:36:00 - [12] - Quote Talos Alomar wrote: Protocake JR wrote: The semi Scram rifle will be the next OP weapon if it CCP increases it's range disproportionately against all the other ARs They better not make my scrambler OP. They halved the range on my pistols, they destroyed my laser rifle but they can't take my scram from me. Scram just needs a range buff or the AR needs a range nerf.
EKH0 0ne R.I.f.t 53	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:47:00 - [13] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: So the Tac is getting adjusted soon,so what are you tryhards going to jump on next? You asking what gun will the guys who keep killing you switch to? or are you asking what the QQrs are gonna complain about next?
Protocake JR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 71	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:48:00 - [14] - Quote Cosgar's Alt wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Protocake JR wrote: The semi Scram rifle will be the next OP weapon if it CCP increases it's range disproportionately against all the other ARs They better not make my scrambler OP. They halved the range on my pistols, they destroyed my laser rifle but they can't take my scram from me. Scram just needs a range buff or the AR needs a range nerf. To be honest, every weapon needs a range buff.
James-5955 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 183	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:56:00 - [15] - Quote Lol... AR needs a range nerf... The tac is the only AR that actually feels like it has ANY range to it. All other varients just tickle enemies at any decent range. Look at the maps.. so many open areas that are long distance where I can't compete at all with proto full auto AR. It's really the only reason I use the tac right now, because it actually has the ability to kill at a range.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 107	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:56:00 - [16] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: Cosgar's Alt wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Protocake JR wrote: The semi Scram rifle will be the next OP weapon if it CCP increases it's range disproportionately against all the other ARs They better not make my scrambler OP. They halved the range on my pistols, they destroyed my laser rifle but they can't take my scram from me. Scram just needs a range buff or the AR needs a range nerf. To be honest, every weapon needs a range buff. Ranges are actually fine, it's the hard cap that's the problem. There needs to be a falloff outside of optimal range and incidental damage on the AR needs to be swapped with the HMG. Biggest issue is that all the AR variants are placeholders for the different racial rifles. Once they're all added with their own specific ranges, the AR we have now can go to being a mid/short range high DPS Gallente plasma weapon it's meant to be.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 330	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:02:00 - [17] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Scrambler rifles. I'm calling it now Yes and maybe a Flaylock problem after that. I witnessed a fellow merc destroy about 10 people today. They are both good weapons, the charge has me worried about the incoming nerf.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 330	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:05:00 - [18] - Quote Cosgar's Alt wrote: Protocake JR wrote: Cosgar's Alt wrote: Talos Alomar wrote: Protocake JR wrote: The semi Scram rifle will be the next OP weapon if it CCP increases it's range disproportionately against all the other ARs They better not make my scrambler OP. They halved the range on my pistols, they destroyed my laser rifle but they can't take my scram from me. Scram just needs a range buff or the AR needs a range nerf. To be honest, every weapon needs a range buff. Ranges are actually fine, it's the hard cap that's the problem. There needs to be a falloff outside of optimal range and incidental damage on the AR needs to be swapped with the HMG. Biggest issue is that all the AR variants are placeholders for the different racial rifles. Once they're all added with their own specific ranges, the AR we have now can go to being a mid/short range high DPS Gallente plasma weapon it's meant to be. I hope that the other weapons will help bring balance to the force. The scram is just out range by the AR but not by much. Put a dot sight on a LR and my AR problems are fixed.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1725	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:05:00 - [19] - Quote Having the absolute ranges come in for each weapon will fix most of the issues. Long range weapons will still have their place, and their shorter-range cousins will still do damage at the same range at a penalty. All we need after that is travel-time on sniper shots. Hell, if we had that, I might actually try sniping. I can't do it right now because I can't get myself out of the habit of leading my targets.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 4109	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:10:00 - [20] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: The semi Scram rifle will be the next OP weapon if it CCP increases it's range disproportionately against all the other ARs According to CCP: default AR = assault default scrambler rifle = tactical default rail rifle = breach default combat rifle = burst The semi-auto scrambler is a tactical, and its a laser weapon. It should outrange the tactical AR. The buff is supposedly to raise only the optimal range, it will still be outranged by the tactical AR (which is absurd).

Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 107	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:13:00 - [21] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Protocake JR wrote: The semi Scram rifle will be the next OP weapon if it CCP increases it's range disproportionately against all the other ARs According to CCP: default AR = assault default scrambler rifle = tactical default rail rifle = breach default combat rifle = burst The semi-auto scrambler is a tactical, and its a laser weapon. It should outrange the tactical AR. The buff is supposedly to raise only the optimal range, it will still be outranged by the tactical AR (which is absurd). Makes you wonder if the devs ever read Templar One
Imp Smash On The Brink CRONOS. 112	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:16:00 - [22] - Quote I honestly think that with the upcoming range buff to the scram that it'll be the most balanced weapon in the game.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 330	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:20:00 - [23] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Protocake JR wrote: The semi Scram rifle will be the next OP weapon if it CCP increases it's range disproportionately against all the other ARs According to CCP: default AR = assault default scrambler rifle = tactical default rail rifle = breach default combat rifle = burst The semi-auto scrambler is a tactical, and its a laser weapon. It should outrange the tactical AR. The buff is supposedly to raise only the optimal range, it will still be outranged by the tactical AR (which is absurd). If I have a couple of options to fight it then I don't care too much about the range but I can't fight them unless they get cocky and try to advance quickly.
Justin Tymes Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 135	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:31:00 - [24] - Quote James-5955 wrote: Lol... AR needs a range nerf...? The tac is the only AR that actually feels like it has ANY range to it. All other varients just tickle enemies at any decent range. Look at the maps.. so many open areas that are long distance where I can't compete at all with proto full auto AR. It's really the only reason I use the tac right now, because it actually has the ability to kill at a range. Spent plenty of matches getting killed and getting irritated by the changes they made in its range abilities, giving away my position thinking that my bullets could do more than a sliver of damage to someones health. Hah... Granted its range before was truly ridiculous, I feel like there could've been a better middle ground to aim for. How many times have ARs been nerfed now? xD Nothing else but Snipers and TAC ARs is killing you at long range(Lasers are a joke, and Assault MD is mediocre without support). One of them sucks in CQC.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 109	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:47:00 - [25] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: James-5955 wrote: Lol... AR needs a range nerf...? The tac is the only AR that actually feels like it has ANY range to it. All other varients just tickle enemies at any decent range. Look at the maps.. so many open areas that are long distance where I can't compete at all with proto full auto AR. It's really the only reason I use the tac right now, because it actually has the ability to kill at a range. Spent plenty of matches getting killed and getting irritated by the changes they made in its range abilities, giving away my position thinking that my bullets could do more than a sliver of damage to someones health. Hah... Granted its range before was truly ridiculous, I feel like there could've been a better middle ground to aim for. How many times have ARs been nerfed now? xD Nothing else but Snipers and TAC ARs is killing you at long range(Lasers are a joke, and Assault MD is mediocre without support). One of them sucks in CQC. Assault MD is a potato launcher. I can attest to this.
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 504	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:58:00 - [26] - Quote The Breach
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 5	Posted - 2013.05.31 07:10:00 - [27] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: So the Tac is getting adjusted soon,so what are you tryhards going to jump on next? They aren't going to jump anywhere because the TAC is being adjusted in a way that will make zero difference to its OP'ness. CCP clearly have no idea why the TAC is a problem. So they'll still be using it after the "nerf" ... if I can use such a term.
Commander Tuna KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 46	Posted - 2013.05.31 07:12:00 - [28] - Quote Shion Typhon wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: So the Tac is getting adjusted soon,so what are you tryhards going to jump on next? They aren't going to jump anywhere because the TAC is being adjusted in a way that will make zero difference to its OP'ness. CCP clearly have no idea why the TAC is a problem. So they'll still be using it after the "nerf" ... if I can use such a term. Cry more. The rof is the number one issue of the tac ar which is getting fixed. Hipfire accuracy is the other issue, which is also getting fixed.
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 0	Posted - 2013.05.31 07:14:00 - [29] - Quote The laser rifle is still a beast lol, i can easily go 20/3 in a match and still come in the first five on the score board. Granted right now its a bit difficult to compete with the tactical AR but most people under estimate me and that gets them killed. I will still laser your face off any time lol.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 5	Posted - 2013.05.31 07:14:00 - [30] - Quote Commander Tuna wrote: Shion Typhon wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: So the Tac is getting adjusted soon,so what are you tryhards going to jump on next? They aren't going to jump anywhere because the TAC is being adjusted in a way that will make zero difference to its OP'ness. CCP clearly have no idea why the TAC is a problem. So they'll still be using it after the "nerf" ... if I can use such a term. Cry more. The rof is the number one issue of the tac ar which is getting fixed. Hipfire accuracy is the other issue, which is also getting fixed. You shouldn't rub yourself up on your GLU-TAC in public, its indecent.

Buwaro Draemon The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 56	Posted - 2013.05.31 17:20:00 - [31] - Quote Protocake JR wrote: The semi Scram rifle will be the next OP weapon if it CCP increases it's range disproportionately against all the other ARs Blasters have tge shortest range of all weapons. Even for the TAC AR. Lasers and Rail Guns have longest range of all weapons. Amd the Scrambler Rifle is a laser weapon.
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 165	Posted - 2013.05.31 17:23:00 - [32] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Scrambler rifles. I'm calling it now Yeah but we already have the LAV OP claims...and i am thinking HMG and ARs will be pretty close behind the scrambler. Also i just saw a "Flaylock OP" thread like 2 min ago.
Chinduko KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 150	Posted - 2013.05.31 17:33:00 - [33] - Quote ARs are moderately OP in general but the TAC was highly OP. I can wait to see which AR CCP makes highly OP next time. It's wise to keep skills in the AR for just this reason.
Xender17 Murderz for hire 126	Posted - 2013.05.31 17:49:00 - [34] - Quote If the scrambler rifle got decreased heat build up...
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 91	Posted - 2013.05.31 18:10:00 - [35] - Quote Commander Tuna wrote: Shion Typhon wrote: Johnny Guilt wrote: So the Tac is getting adjusted soon,so what are you tryhards going to jump on next? They aren't going to jump anywhere because the TAC is being adjusted in a way that will make zero difference to its OP'ness. CCP clearly have no idea why the TAC is a problem. So they'll still be using it after the "nerf" ... if I can use such a term. Cry more. The rof is the number one issue of the tac ar which is getting fixed. Hipfire accuracy is the other issue, which is also getting fixed. Monday: AR Sharpshooter Lvl 5 (15%? decrease in AR dispersion) Tuesday: Respec Wednesday: AR Sharpshooter Lvl 0 Effect... TAC AR still effective and viable in CQC without the 15% dispersion decrease give with AR Sharpshooter. Unless the dispersion cone is insanely huge any increase in dispersion will be negated by the AR Sharpshooter skill resulting in negligle effects to TAR dispersion in CQC.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 179	Posted - 2013.05.31 18:11:00 - [36] - Quote honestly I'd of said nothing, but they intend to buff the AR at the same time as this nerf, which is stupid and going to result in the AR being the same god dam gun as the tac rifle is now >.> not sure why CCP insists on buffing guns that people are using to great effect as is.
Summer-Wolf BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 52	Posted - 2013.05.31 18:17:00 - [37] - Quote Any links to the actual upcoming patch / nerf / whats happening to the TAR?
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 179	Posted - 2013.05.31 18:19:00 - [38] - Quote Summer-Wolf wrote: Any links to the actual upcoming patch / nerf / whats happening to the TAR? if I understand correctly, they are hard capping the fire speed and reducing the clip size of the tac ar, maybe a third thing i'm forgetting. meanwhile buffing the range on the Scrambler rifle. and since the current damage on the SR outdoes most assault rifle if handled well, a range buff will just make it the new tac rifle.
Summer-Wolf BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 52	Posted - 2013.05.31 18:25:00 - [39] - Quote stupid forum that wont let me quote stuff... Ya I read it somewhere as well, I just cant find the post by a Dev, if there was such a thing. If TAR is nerfed that much, TAR user will scream respec. Oh well, a new OP weapon for people to complaint about.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1764	Posted - 2013.05.31 18:42:00 - [40] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Summer-Wolf wrote: Any links to the actual upcoming patch / nerf / whats happening to the TAR? if I understand correctly, they are hard capping the fire speed and reducing the clip size of the tac ar, maybe a third thing i'm forgetting. meanwhile buffing the range on the Scrambler rifle. and since the current damage on the SR outdoes most assault rifle if handled well, a range buff will just make it the new tac rifle. It fires on release instead of squeeze of the trigger, and has a pretty nasty overheat if you fire it too rapidly for too long. As well, they've done nothing to reduce the range or damage of the Tac rifle. All they're doing is making it harder to use unfair control methods to enhance it, and making it less capable at CQC so that the other rifles actually have a purpose. You'll still be able to use your TAR to drop people at range with no problems.

The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 347	Posted - 2013.06.01 11:11:00 - [41] - Quote Echoist wrote: The laser rifle is still a beast lol, i can easily go 20/3 in a match and still come in the first five on the score board. Granted right now its a bit difficult to compete with the tactical AR but most people under estimate me and that gets them killed. I will still laser your face off any time lol. They are bad mo-fos. Fun too.
Mary Sedillo XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S 111	Posted - 2013.06.01 11:15:00 - [42] - Quote Johnny Guilt wrote: So the Tac is getting adjusted soon,so what are you tryhards going to jump on next? You cannot blame folks for seeing a weapon that is rather powerful and wanting to use it. Calling them try hards is not appropriate in this case. I am a vehicle operator, a dropship pilot. Not much of a FOTM player... I see the TAC rifle problem as a lack of proper play-testing of their releases. They do not play their game. They do not understand the problems. It is CCP, not the player's fault here. Would it be worse that these tools were available and people were too stupid to use them?
True Adamance Ametat Security Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2013.06.01 11:19:00 - [43] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Scrambler rifles. I'm calling it now But scramblers aren't even ******* OP!
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 199	Posted - 2013.06.01 11:20:00 - [44] - Quote The breach is already my friend so Im going to stick with that
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Unclaimed. 288	Posted - 2013.06.01 11:20:00 - [45] - Quote op, don't you mean which weapon is gonna kick the ovaries out of your vage so hard that you nerds are gonna WFMN in the next couple weeks. hell ill tell ya right now: 1. the GLU. you vages are destined to whine about that 2. the flaylock 3. the scrambler 4. any functional weapon leftover that you pu$$ies haven't had nerfed. ops a casual codboi who couldn't hang then and is on her way to not hanging now. Peace B


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