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Shrapnels
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:18:00 -
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Dust514 is Marketed as a "Free to Play" (F2P) game. The only way to play Free is through ISK.
There is Only 1 currency method that allows you to play Dust according to the "Free to Play" model. Its Not like you gave players AUR or the Paid method to play.
I have played numerous F2P games and when the Company made the mistake they would not Punish it's playerbase and as a PR move would not even dare to put players in a Negative ability or Restrict players to play their game Freely. As a Positive PR move the company would admit their mistake and say enjoy the gift.
Not everyone who plays Dust visits CCP forums. Nor should they have too.
CCP neglected to use their own ingame launcher News section that they patched into Dust on Wed. May 22nd to inform ALL the Players who played Dust on May 28th and May 29th. As of today, May 30th, there is still No News update to inform the Players of CCP's own Mistake.
The "pop-up" in game "Hot-Fix" notice on Tuesday May 28th NEVER informed the playerbase about there being an ISK issue with the player getting more then should!!!!!!!!!!! The fix was done 2 days later and not immediately !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Players should never be Punished for CCP's Mistakes.
The company, CCP not the Players should be held Responsible for their own Mistakes.
It is time for Us the Playerbase to take to the vast Media sources we have access too. YES
Use FaceBook, Twitter and spread the word of this Injustice.
Contact Editors of Media gaming Websites like IGN, GameSpot, GameTrailers, Sony, etc.....
Everyone call SONY Customer Service Help line 1-800-345-7669
When I call CCP, I will be asking for a FULL Monetary reimbursement for ALL the Merc Packs I have bought. I No longer want to be apart of this atrocity if this is how CCP treats it's Playerbase.
if it comes to this there will be a Class Action Lawsuit filed.
We will Not allow CCP to take advantage of Us the Players. |
DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
1
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:19:00 -
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Amen to that bro. Now you will probably read a bunch of cry baby skill-less punks on here tellin' u "u get what u deserve" uh huh. I say, ur mistake, ur loss CCP |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
534
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:20:00 -
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The QQ is beautiful. |
Dale Templar
Regime Of Shadow Marines Alpha Wolf Pack
26
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:21:00 -
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Unexceptable. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
527
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:21:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote: if it comes to this there will be a Class Action Lawsuit filed.
We will Not allow CCP to take advantage of Us the Players.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
AHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHA |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
74
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:22:00 -
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Yeah, I understand that some people are very pissed, it was a mistake from CCP, but if you spent all this money you are guilty too.
But all in all, the playerbase should not have to suffer under another error from CCP, just double the money from everyone and thats it.
I think Dust definately has other more serious problems going on, **** the economy when the balance is broken. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
172
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:24:00 -
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unacceptable
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Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
114
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:24:00 -
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I lost nothing trough this mistake, but I totaly agree with the OP.
THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO FIX THINGS! |
J Falcs
Bojo's School of the Trades
74
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:24:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1685
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:24:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote:Dust514 is Marketed as a "Free to Play" (F2P) game. The only way to play Free is through ISK.
There is Only 1 currency method that allows you to play Dust according to the "Free to Play" model. Its Not like you gave players AUR or the Paid method to play.
I have played numerous F2P games and when the Company made the mistake they would not Punish it's playerbase and as a PR move would not even dare to put players in a Negative ability or Restrict players to play their game Freely. As a Positive PR move the company would admit their mistake and say enjoy the gift.
Not everyone who plays Dust visits CCP forums. Nor should they have too.
CCP neglected to use their own ingame launcher News section that they patched into Dust on Wed. May 22nd to inform ALL the Players who played Dust on May 28th and May 29th. As of today, May 30th, there is still No News update to inform the Players of CCP's own Mistake.
The "pop-up" in game "Hot-Fix" notice on Tuesday May 28th NEVER informed the playerbase about there being an ISK issue with the player getting more then should!!!!!!!!!!! The fix was done 2 days later and not immediately !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Players should never be Punished for CCP's Mistakes.
The company, CCP not the Players should be held Responsible for their own Mistakes.
It is time for Us the Playerbase to take to the vast Media sources we have access too. YES
Use FaceBook, Twitter and spread the word of this Injustice.
Contact Editors of Media gaming Websites like IGN, GameSpot, GameTrailers, Sony, etc.....
Everyone call SONY Customer Service Help line 1-800-345-7669
When I call CCP, I will be asking for a FULL Monetary reimbursement for ALL the Merc Packs I have bought. I No longer want to be apart of this atrocity if this is how CCP treats it's Playerbase.
if it comes to this there will be a Class Action Lawsuit filed.
We will Not allow CCP to take advantage of Us the Players. Are you really that brainless?
You talk about ISK being the way this game stays free, so what happens when you get a crapload of it for no reason and you spend it all?
You expect to keep everything you spent AND keep all the ISK too?
If you want to do something, petition to have allt he stuff you bought taken away in return for having your ISK set back to what it was.
If you lost too much, petition that and they'll fix it.
You're like those ******** asshats that danced around chanting "CONSPIRACY" during the Incarna debacle. The same ones that gave themselves a pat on the back when a lot of CCP were laid off when that wasn't even due to the protests.
Grow up, sober up, whatever. Take your bullshit somewhere else and be an adult. |
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hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:24:00 -
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I want some free isk. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
253
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:24:00 -
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Not sure I can support rewarding people who blindly spent every cent they had, when they had to have known that money came out of nowhere.
If anyone was originally intending to play the game, they will likely submit a ticket and find a way to make it work.
If people are quitting over this... honestly, they were likely to quit soon anyways. |
stormyuk
DUST University Ivy League
37
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:25:00 -
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Unbelievable |
hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:25:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Shrapnels wrote:Dust514 is Marketed as a "Free to Play" (F2P) game. The only way to play Free is through ISK.
There is Only 1 currency method that allows you to play Dust according to the "Free to Play" model. Its Not like you gave players AUR or the Paid method to play.
I have played numerous F2P games and when the Company made the mistake they would not Punish it's playerbase and as a PR move would not even dare to put players in a Negative ability or Restrict players to play their game Freely. As a Positive PR move the company would admit their mistake and say enjoy the gift.
Not everyone who plays Dust visits CCP forums. Nor should they have too.
CCP neglected to use their own ingame launcher News section that they patched into Dust on Wed. May 22nd to inform ALL the Players who played Dust on May 28th and May 29th. As of today, May 30th, there is still No News update to inform the Players of CCP's own Mistake.
The "pop-up" in game "Hot-Fix" notice on Tuesday May 28th NEVER informed the playerbase about there being an ISK issue with the player getting more then should!!!!!!!!!!! The fix was done 2 days later and not immediately !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Players should never be Punished for CCP's Mistakes.
The company, CCP not the Players should be held Responsible for their own Mistakes.
It is time for Us the Playerbase to take to the vast Media sources we have access too. YES
Use FaceBook, Twitter and spread the word of this Injustice.
Contact Editors of Media gaming Websites like IGN, GameSpot, GameTrailers, Sony, etc.....
Everyone call SONY Customer Service Help line 1-800-345-7669
When I call CCP, I will be asking for a FULL Monetary reimbursement for ALL the Merc Packs I have bought. I No longer want to be apart of this atrocity if this is how CCP treats it's Playerbase.
if it comes to this there will be a Class Action Lawsuit filed.
We will Not allow CCP to take advantage of Us the Players. Are you really that brainless? You talk about ISK being the way this game stays free, so what happens when you get a crapload of it for no reason and you spend it all? You expect to keep everything you spent AND keep all the ISK too? If you want to do something, petition to have allt he stuff you bought taken away in return for having your ISK set back to what it was. If you lost too much, petition that and they'll fix it. You're like those ******** asshats that danced around chanting "CONSPIRACY" during the Incarna debacle. The same ones that gave themselves a pat on the back when a lot of CCP were laid off when that wasn't even due to the protests. Grow up, sober up, whatever. Take your bullshit somewhere else and be an adult.
i like this guy.
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Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
114
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:25:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:Yeah, I understand that some people are very pissed, it was a mistake from CCP, but if you spent all this money you are guilty too.
But all in all, the playerbase should not have to suffer under another error from CCP, just double the money from everyone and thats it.
I think Dust definately has other more serious problems going on, **** the economy when the balance is broken. The problem is CCP deleted more money than he gave from some accounts. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
274
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:26:00 -
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CCP is taking advantage of you? more like the people that are more than 10 mil in debt took advantage the game "exploiting" a situation that was obviously not on the level. |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
393
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:26:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:Yeah, I understand that some people are very pissed, it was a mistake from CCP, but if you spent all this money you are guilty too.
But all in all, the playerbase should not have to suffer under another error from CCP, just double the money from everyone and thats it.
I think Dust definately has other more serious problems going on, **** the economy when the balance is broken. You know that doubling negative ISK will make things worse right? |
Darth Baldarr
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:27:00 -
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So if a bank mistakenly puts a bunch of money in your account you think you get to keep it? Fat chance. You all should have thr common sense to not spend tons and tons of isk that you didnt earn. |
Sir Meode
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
611
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:28:00 -
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here, have a tissue |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1687
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:28:00 -
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arimal lavaren wrote:CCP is taking advantage of you? more like the people that are more than 10 mil in debt took advantage the game "exploiting" a situation that was obviously not on the level. Exactly.
Oh, and how the **** do you spell unacceptable wrong in your thread title? With all the people having spell check or autocorrect replace "respec" with "respect", there's just no excuse for that.
You really expect people to take you seriously when you don't even proofread the title to all that garbage? |
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Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
81
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:28:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote:Dust514 is Marketed as a "Free to Play" (F2P) game
Therefore you have lost nothing. |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
210
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:29:00 -
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Please check the sticked thread at the top~
They're aware and fixing it asap~ |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1687
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:29:00 -
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Darth Baldarr wrote:So if a bank mistakenly puts a bunch of money in your account you think you get to keep it? Fat chance. You all should have thr common sense to not spend tons and tons of isk that you didnt earn. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
114
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:30:00 -
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arimal lavaren wrote:CCP is taking advantage of you? more like the people that are more than 10 mil in debt took advantage the game "exploiting" a situation that was obviously not on the level. You guys just dont understant.
NOT EVERYBODY SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY, BUT THEY STILL IN NEGATIVE BECAUSE CCP DELETED MORE MONEY!
You are lucky if this new "mistake" dosnt touched you. |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
333
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:30:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The QQ is beautiful.
I actually been waiting for CCP to fix the ISK... so i could see this Phenomenon unveil itself in front of my eyes.. |
hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:30:00 -
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So people mad that ccp took more money than they should, yet people complain about spending money that they should not have giving them a negative balance. I say give back that gear you stock piled. |
Dust HaHakoke
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:31:00 -
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Im lucky then my isk is still exactly where it should be ;) |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
702
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:32:00 -
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3/10 troll post. Use of word "Unexpectable" was too obvious.
If you need free isk you can always join up with a Corp... you don't need to try to bend CCP over a wheel-barrel to do it. There are a lot of players who use aur to supplement their loadouts & know what they're doing who have extra isk... |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1687
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:32:00 -
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Otoky wrote:arimal lavaren wrote:CCP is taking advantage of you? more like the people that are more than 10 mil in debt took advantage the game "exploiting" a situation that was obviously not on the level. You guys just dont understant. NOT EVERYBODY SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY, BUT THEY STILL IN NEGATIVE BECAUSE CCP DELETED MORE MONEY! You are lucky if this new "mistake" dosnt touched you. Then make a thread saying it was a mistake and stop posting in the QQ threads of the people who spent it!
CCP FoxFour just recently made a post responding to a guy whose girlfriend got hit with that error telling the guy to send her email to him so he could forward it to people to sort it out. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3352
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:32:00 -
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CCP sends email stating ALL ISK will be refunded
Refunds ALL ISK
Screws the pooch and ISK refunds go haywire
Reverses ISK reimbursements
Proceeds to threaten to further reverse purchases
CCP: Working as indended
Also, fix you damn forums, this ****'s almost as buggy as the game
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hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:32:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Darth Baldarr wrote:So if a bank mistakenly puts a bunch of money in your account you think you get to keep it? Fat chance. You all should have thr common sense to not spend tons and tons of isk that you didnt earn. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ There gone to do the same, may even take you to court and sue. This game really does have idiots. |
Shrapnels
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
36
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:34:00 -
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CCP North America and White Wolf Publishing
250 East Ponce de Leon Avenue
Suite 700
Decatur, GA 30030 USA
Tel. (+1) 404-292-1819
www.white-wolf.com
Opening hours: 9am-6pm Mon-Fri
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Shrapnels
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
36
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:35:00 -
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Headquarters
CCP hf. Grandagar+¦ur 8 101 Reykjavik Iceland Tel: (+354) 540 9100 Fax: (+354) 540 9198 ID Number: 450697-3469 VSK Number: 54982
Opening hours: 9am-5pm Mon-Fri
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hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
7
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:36:00 -
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Question why are those complaining about negative isk upset. Didnt they buy a ton of useful gear? |
Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
364
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:36:00 -
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Shrapnels wrote:if it comes to this there will be a Class Action Lawsuit filed.
Love finding these threads when i first check out forums.. what a classic. |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
114
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:37:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Otoky wrote:arimal lavaren wrote:CCP is taking advantage of you? more like the people that are more than 10 mil in debt took advantage the game "exploiting" a situation that was obviously not on the level. You guys just dont understant. NOT EVERYBODY SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY, BUT THEY STILL IN NEGATIVE BECAUSE CCP DELETED MORE MONEY! You are lucky if this new "mistake" dosnt touched you. Then make a thread saying it was a mistake and stop posting in the QQ threads of the people who spent it! CCP FoxFour just recently made a post responding to a guy whose girlfriend got hit with that error telling the guy to send her email to him so he could forward it to people to sort it out. It was a response to everyone who laughing because they think all QQer player spend the extra money. |
DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
1
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:41:00 -
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Do you people think we are SAINTS?
99% of people who get money, SPEND IT!
lol get real |
BOZ MR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
180
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:41:00 -
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It is like saying I found money on the ground but I'm not guilty for spending it, the person that dropped it is guilty. Lame . |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1687
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:42:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:It is like saying I found money on the ground but I'm not guilty for spending it, the person that dropped it is guilty. Lame . Well said. |
Beta Phish
Adamantium Metal
29
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:42:00 -
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calling SOE thanks for the # |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1689
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:44:00 -
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Beta Phish wrote:calling SOE thanks for the # wat |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
40
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:48:00 -
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That's way too much effort for me to put forth as a result of this error.
I recognize you have a point with respect to CCP not notifying folks in-game of this issue, however I didn't overspend any of my 'free' money. I did this because I saw the forum posts on this topic. However even if I *hadn't* I wouldn't have spent money that mysteriously appeared in my account without first finding out why it was there.
I see your point, but I don't sympathize with you - and I'm sure not gonna help you seek recourse on this. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:51:00 -
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People really spend that extra isk?
Must suck to be a sucker,.. Zzz
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Baldr Grimm
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
14
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:59:00 -
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If you wake up and have 100 mil more than you should, and your first impulse is to spend it with impunity, you're an idiot. I'm glad these 'tards are in the red. |
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
149
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:02:00 -
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Shrap, normally I agree with you, but this post makes it seem like you are merely venting all your anger accumulated over the course of the beta over this . In short, your thread is a waste of everyone's time. You of all people should have known that this IS a CCP error, yet you know fein innocence even though you are guilty, assuming that you did spend the ISK, and hope to make off with more than you had, even though you PRETEND to act ignorant of the situation.
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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
272
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:03:00 -
[46] - Quote
To be fair. Since the isk influx happened on the day of the respec, folks may not have realized it wasnt legit. I gained 100 mil ISK the first respec. The "error' gave me like 90 mil more. I was suspicious, it seemed like a bit much for my gear, but so did the first respec.
So yeah...I could see how folks may have assumed it was legit due to the timing. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
165
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:04:00 -
[47] - Quote
my personal opinion is that you should HTFU and use that isk you spent to dig yourself out of that hole.
That said we all know how this ***** fest is going to go down, .5% of the game population consisting of 25% of the forum population is going to whine and ***** and moan while we all laugh at them for 2 weeks. shortly following that CCP will reset their characters giving them the net worth of all their currently held gear to keep them happy.
so let's just skip the middle man, reset their character and make sure you take their packed av grenades they bought when you do. |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax. CRONOS.
358
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:08:00 -
[48] - Quote
Oh the humanity! |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
43
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:11:00 -
[49] - Quote
http://imgur.com/gallery/X3ekL |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
564
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:16:00 -
[50] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote:Dust514 is Marketed as a "Free to Play" (F2P) game. The only way to play Free is through ISK.
There is Only 1 currency method that allows you to play Dust according to the "Free to Play" model. Its Not like you gave players AUR or the Paid method to play.
I have played numerous F2P games and when the Company made the mistake they would not Punish it's playerbase and as a PR move would not even dare to put players in a Negative ability or Restrict players to play their game Freely. As a Positive PR move the company would admit their mistake and say enjoy the gift.
Not everyone who plays Dust visits CCP forums. Nor should they have too.
CCP neglected to use their own ingame launcher News section that they patched into Dust on Wed. May 22nd to inform ALL the Players who played Dust on May 28th and May 29th. As of today, May 30th, there is still No News update to inform the Players of CCP's own Mistake.
The "pop-up" in game "Hot-Fix" notice on Tuesday May 28th NEVER informed the playerbase about there being an ISK issue with the player getting more then should!!!!!!!!!!! The fix was done 2 days later and not immediately !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Players should never be Punished for CCP's Mistakes.
The company, CCP not the Players should be held Responsible for their own Mistakes.
It is time for Us the Playerbase to take to the vast Media sources we have access too. YES
Use FaceBook, Twitter and spread the word of this Injustice.
Contact Editors of Media gaming Websites like IGN, GameSpot, GameTrailers, Sony, etc.....
Everyone call SONY Customer Service Help line 1-800-345-7669
When I call CCP, I will be asking for a FULL Monetary reimbursement for ALL the Merc Packs I have bought. I No longer want to be apart of this atrocity if this is how CCP treats it's Playerbase.
if it comes to this there will be a Class Action Lawsuit filed.
We will Not allow CCP to take advantage of Us the Players.
CCP made a mistake by giving you too much ISK. They corrected it by taking away.
The players made a mistake by spending ISK they didn't earn. Now it's time for the players to correct their mistake.
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Jofur MUR
ARKLINE Lokun Listamenn
49
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:24:00 -
[51] - Quote
Bones McGavins wrote:To be fair. Since the isk influx happened on the day of the respec, folks may not have realized it wasnt legit. I gained 100 mil ISK the first respec. The "error' gave me like 90 mil more. I was suspicious, it seemed like a bit much for my gear, but so did the first respec.
So yeah...I could see how folks may have assumed it was legit due to the timing.
I thought the extra ISK was a refund for the respec'd skills. Here's hoping I am not dwindling within the negatives due to my spending the ISK for my new skills.
'accepting all who wish to enter' -ARKLINE motto |
Darken Ages
Stoned Kloned Killers
22
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:25:00 -
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Otoky wrote:arimal lavaren wrote:CCP is taking advantage of you? more like the people that are more than 10 mil in debt took advantage the game "exploiting" a situation that was obviously not on the level. You guys just dont understant. NOT EVERYBODY SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY, BUT THEY STILL IN NEGATIVE BECAUSE CCP DELETED MORE MONEY! You are lucky if this new "mistake" dosnt touched you. I'm with you. My g/f has a dust player and she created last night and was never issused more isk .She had 1.2 mill in isk from being a starter and now is in the red. She filed her ticket |
Vavilia Lysenko
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:25:00 -
[53] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote:Dust514 is Marketed as a "Free to Play" (F2P) game. The only way to play Free is through ISK.
There is Only 1 currency method that allows you to play Dust according to the "Free to Play" model. Its Not like you gave players AUR or the Paid method to play.
I have played numerous F2P games and when the Company made the mistake they would not Punish it's playerbase and as a PR move would not even dare to put players in a Negative ability or Restrict players to play their game Freely. As a Positive PR move the company would admit their mistake and say enjoy the gift.
Not everyone who plays Dust visits CCP forums. Nor should they have too.
CCP neglected to use their own ingame launcher News section that they patched into Dust on Wed. May 22nd to inform ALL the Players who played Dust on May 28th and May 29th. As of today, May 30th, there is still No News update to inform the Players of CCP's own Mistake.
The "pop-up" in game "Hot-Fix" notice on Tuesday May 28th NEVER informed the playerbase about there being an ISK issue with the player getting more then should!!!!!!!!!!! The fix was done 2 days later and not immediately !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Players should never be Punished for CCP's Mistakes.
The company, CCP not the Players should be held Responsible for their own Mistakes.
It is time for Us the Playerbase to take to the vast Media sources we have access too. YES
Use FaceBook, Twitter and spread the word of this Injustice.
Contact Editors of Media gaming Websites like IGN, GameSpot, GameTrailers, Sony, etc.....
Everyone call SONY Customer Service Help line 1-800-345-7669
When I call CCP, I will be asking for a FULL Monetary reimbursement for ALL the Merc Packs I have bought. I No longer want to be apart of this atrocity if this is how CCP treats it's Playerbase.
if it comes to this there will be a Class Action Lawsuit filed.
We will Not allow CCP to take advantage of Us the Players.
I'm with you! We could start an "Occupy Iceland" campaign. I have a tent, we could live off Roasted Puffins. No more shall we stand for it, onward to a better world, where the Tyranny of Game Developers shall be defeated.
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Dr Stabwounds
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
43
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:27:00 -
[54] - Quote
What a stupid post. Should have stopped reading after 'Unexceptable'
Also, the media sites won't care. It's a game few play and the devs clearly stated they were aware of the problem and what their solution was. |
Darken Ages
Stoned Kloned Killers
22
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:31:00 -
[55] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:Otoky wrote:arimal lavaren wrote:CCP is taking advantage of you? more like the people that are more than 10 mil in debt took advantage the game "exploiting" a situation that was obviously not on the level. You guys just dont understant. NOT EVERYBODY SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY, BUT THEY STILL IN NEGATIVE BECAUSE CCP DELETED MORE MONEY! You are lucky if this new "mistake" dosnt touched you. Then make a thread saying it was a mistake and stop posting in the QQ threads of the people who spent it! CCP FoxFour just recently made a post responding to a guy whose girlfriend got hit with that error telling the guy to send her email to him so he could forward it to people to sort it out. She filed her ticket we will see how long it take's and I will inform the time it took. |
Jofur MUR
ARKLINE Lokun Listamenn
49
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:32:00 -
[56] - Quote
Thank you CCP for making a lot of people feel like Rich Lobsters...
'accepting all who wish to enter' -ARKLINE motto |
Bubba Brown
Militaires Sans Jeux
125
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:40:00 -
[57] - Quote
-people lose money because of a CCP screw up -some of these people go millions into the negative...because of a ccp screw up
Quote:DEALWITHIT HTFU URBAD ADAPTORDIE
i swear to god the ****** community will finish this game off |
Shrapnels
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
46
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:27:00 -
[58] - Quote
adding the
Better Business Bureau
http://www.bbb.org/
Make sure to File complaints with them |
Solaire Randash
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
24
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:32:00 -
[59] - Quote
Had 15mil before ISK bug, 36mil during and spent 6mil, ISK fix now has me at 12mil. Not that bad |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
577
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 18:35:00 -
[60] - Quote
Bubba Brown wrote:-people lose money because of a CCP screw up -some of these people go millions into the negative...because of a ccp screw up Quote:DEALWITHIT HTFU URBAD ADAPTORDIE i swear to god the ****** community will finish this game off
Actually, you have it wrong.
People GAINED millions due to CPP screw up. CCP corrects this. Players go negative due to THEIR OWN screwup, by going on a spending spree. |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
584
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:37:00 -
[61] - Quote
lol. What are you going to complain about exactly? You overspent and now are negative? Also, the BB is a US organization, and CCP is an Icelandic company. |
GVGISDEAD
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:39:00 -
[62] - Quote
CCP loves to keep a disparity between players, at first it was SP, then it was GEAR and now is ISK
Welcome to the Union of Soviet Crowd Productions :)
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
135
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 18:41:00 -
[63] - Quote
hamual jackson wrote:Question why are those complaining about negative isk upset. Didnt they buy a ton of useful gear?
When they get killed in their proto gear because they are scrubs who relied on gear, they will still have negative ISK and no proto gear to lose. They will be stuck in MLT gear.
I see more tears in the near future. LOL
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
135
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Posted - 2013.05.30 18:46:00 -
[64] - Quote
On what grounds? That CCP took game currency back from players after mistakenly giving it to them in a free to play game? |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
104
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 18:50:00 -
[65] - Quote
Good good... Feed me those tears! I was starting to get dry. |
Spaceman-Rob
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
80
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 18:51:00 -
[66] - Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o58ypeFFWk&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
44
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Posted - 2013.05.30 20:42:00 -
[67] - Quote
Am I the only one who even after having 8 mil SP doesn't think it's a travesty to run around in starter gear for awhile? |
Oshieh
Wu Tang Clan.
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 20:44:00 -
[68] - Quote
was wondering where all my extra isk came from ;/ |
Torr Wrath
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
276
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 20:46:00 -
[69] - Quote
I lol'd.
Excellent troll :) |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
131
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 20:50:00 -
[70] - Quote
damn I'm running low on popcorn with all these hilarious threads lately. |
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2475
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 20:50:00 -
[71] - Quote
Lawsuits? BBB?
You are suing because you lost ISK in a free to play game? |
Spike sorrow
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
2
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 20:56:00 -
[72] - Quote
i had 85-89mil left out of the 165mil i had from the respec.. sometime after a match earlier i looked in my assets and it said there was 118mil taken out of my account..putting me at -39mil isk....this blows... -__________________- |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
300
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 21:06:00 -
[73] - Quote
The thing that concerns me is that there are players that have multiple accounts on different PSNs that saved up TONS of isk by afking. These guys could have donated this money to a dummy corp they created without any regard for a negative balance on those accounts affected.
Their main character can go to that isk fountain for years to come.
This is the part that bothers me. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
162
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 21:11:00 -
[74] - Quote
Unacceptable
PIssy rants work better if you use the proper words |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
300
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 21:11:00 -
[75] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Lawsuits? BBB?
You are suing because you lost ISK in a free to play game? LOL
I've seen it all now |
DarkMaximos
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
22
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 21:12:00 -
[76] - Quote
Otoky wrote:arimal lavaren wrote:CCP is taking advantage of you? more like the people that are more than 10 mil in debt took advantage the game "exploiting" a situation that was obviously not on the level. You guys just dont understant. NOT EVERYBODY SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY, BUT THEY STILL IN NEGATIVE BECAUSE CCP DELETED MORE MONEY! You are lucky if this new "mistake" dosnt touched you.
It hasn't touched me so I guess im one of the lucky ones lol. |
Commander Cartier
Firestorm Syndicate
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 21:24:00 -
[77] - Quote
Did player actually really get more ISK taken away than they were given in error? Can someone post a screeshot of the transactions |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
257
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 21:24:00 -
[78] - Quote
What does Unexceptable mean? |
World ASSASSIN
Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 21:28:00 -
[79] - Quote
After playing EVE since 2007 I have found ccp does not care one bit about players. now this same thing is happening in dust. I have lost alot of aurum due to glitches and such without being refunded a single penny. So how is it they make a mistake in players favor for a change then take it set us negatiuve and tell us sorry. Bull crap if you do not refund the isk and the aurum I have lost due to your crappy game I will be one of the people filing suit against you, I have spent hundreds of dollars on dust and thousands on eve so for once do the right thing ccp. your game has cost us dedicated players alot and you shouldnt be taking your stupid mistakes out on us like you have the eve players for many years. |
Slightly-Mental
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
9
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 21:40:00 -
[80] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote:Dust514 is Marketed as a "Free to Play" (F2P) game. The only way to play Free is through ISK. There is Only 1 currency method that allows you to play Dust according to the "Free to Play" model. Its Not like you gave players AUR or the Paid method to play. I have played numerous F2P games and when the Company made the mistake they would not Punish it's playerbase and as a PR move would not even dare to put players in a Negative ability or Restrict players to play their game Freely. As a Positive PR move the company would admit their mistake and say enjoy the gift. Not everyone who plays Dust visits CCP forums. Nor should they have too. CCP neglected to use their own ingame launcher News section that they patched into Dust on Wed. May 22nd to inform ALL the Players who played Dust on May 28th and May 29th. As of today, May 30th, there is still No News update to inform the Players of CCP's own Mistake. The "pop-up" in game "Hot-Fix" notice on Tuesday May 28th NEVER informed the playerbase about there being an ISK issue with the player getting more then should!!!!!!!!!!! The fix was done 2 days later and not immediately !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Players should never be Punished for CCP's Mistakes. The company, CCP not the Players should be held Responsible for their own Mistakes. It is time for Us the Playerbase to take to the vast Media sources we have access too. YES Use FaceBook, Twitter and spread the word of this Injustice. Contact Editors of Media gaming Websites like IGN, GameSpot, GameTrailers, Sony, etc..... Everyone call SONY Customer Service Help line 1-800-345-7669 When I call CCP, I will be asking for a FULL Monetary reimbursement for ALL the Merc Packs I have bought. I No longer want to be apart of this atrocity if this is how CCP treats it's Playerbase. if it comes to this there will be a Class Action Lawsuit filed. We will Not allow CCP to take advantage of Us the Players. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ added Better Business Bureau info http://www.bbb.org/Make sure to File with them
sorry to burst your lil bubble but the isk belongs to ccp not you
PROPRIETARY RIGHTS A. Ownership of Software, System and Game
As between you and CCP, CCP is the sole and exclusive owner of the Software, System, Game and Game Content (as defined below). The Software, System, Game and all Game Content are protected by law governing copyrights, trademarks and other proprietary rights. CCP reserves all rights not expressly stated herein.
The Game is comprised of, without limitation, software code, programs, routines, subroutines, objects, files, data, characters (and items, currency, objects and attributes comprising or associated with a character or an Account), graphics, sound effects, music, animation, video, text, content, layout, design and other information downloaded from and accessible through the System (collectively, the "Game Content"). CCP, its affiliates, licensors and/or suppliers retain all of their right, title and interest (including without limitation all intellectual property rights) in and to the Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and no rights thereto are transferred to you, except for the limited license granted above. |
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Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
346
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Posted - 2013.05.30 21:44:00 -
[81] - Quote
The hell is wrong with people to make them feel so entitled?
You bought something regardless of how it turned out or you felt after the purchase, you bought it knowingly that you probably wouldn't get a refund.... and now you are bitching about it?
Also don't effing ruin this game for others who do like it. CCP isn't treating their player base badly no more so than any other development company. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
257
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 21:49:00 -
[82] - Quote
Alaika Arbosa wrote:What does Unexceptable mean?
Exactly the stance ccp should have.
There should be no exceptions and special treatment to the players that stupidly blew through isk they all knew they never should have received in the first place. |
World ASSASSIN
Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 21:53:00 -
[83] - Quote
Not the case, I have 3 dust toons, only one spent isk the others didnt yet all my toons are now negative. Explain how that works |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
257
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 22:00:00 -
[84] - Quote
World ASSASSIN wrote:Not the case, I have 3 dust toons, only one spent isk the others didnt yet all my toons are now negative. Explain how that works
Clearly a bugged that you'll want to submit to CS for review.
I know I had exactly the amount taken back that was mistakenly put in. |
Dark Deviser
Ahrendee Frontlinez
4
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 22:07:00 -
[85] - Quote
If some ****** leaves a case full of millions in my yard and I happen to take it and invest it and spend it then thats some tough love buddy. You leave stuff on my property and expect its yours then you are strongly mistaken, I'll get my lawyer and well go to war.
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Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
72
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Posted - 2013.05.30 22:22:00 -
[86] - Quote
Buster Friently wrote:Bubba Brown wrote:-people lose money because of a CCP screw up -some of these people go millions into the negative...because of a ccp screw up Quote:DEALWITHIT HTFU URBAD ADAPTORDIE i swear to god the ****** community will finish this game off Actually, you have it wrong. People GAINED millions due to CPP screw up. CCP corrects this. Players go negative due to THEIR OWN screwup, by going on a spending spree.
You assume everyone reads the forums and CCP's warning. Here is how a casual player would have takent he situation...
Oh look, I somehow have 1 million ISK. SPENDING SPREE!
*days later
Wtf, why am I broke with nothing and less than what I had? So confused... |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
169
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 23:34:00 -
[87] - Quote
Dark Deviser wrote:If some ****** leaves a case full of millions in my yard and I happen to take it and invest it and spend it then thats some tough love buddy. You leave stuff on my property and expect its yours then you are strongly mistaken, I'll get my lawyer and well go to war.
The problem with this is that Dust is CCPs property, not yours or mine or anyone elses |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
262
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 23:36:00 -
[88] - Quote
ZDub 303 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:What does Unexceptable mean? Exactly the stance ccp should have. There should be no exceptions and special treatment to the players that stupidly blew through isk they all knew they never should have received in the first place.
Whaaaaa?
Logic?
/facedesk with nose bleed due to massive aneurysm. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege
52
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Posted - 2013.05.30 23:53:00 -
[89] - Quote
Dark Deviser wrote:If some ****** leaves a case full of millions in my yard and I happen to take it and invest it and spend it then thats some tough love buddy. You leave stuff on my property and expect its yours then you are strongly mistaken, I'll get my lawyer and well go to war.
This is not some mysterious case of money, though. There is only one place it could have come from: CCP.
The fact that so many people spent so much, so fast, leads me to believe that they knew EXACTLY what was going on (or, at least, suspected something was not right) and were attempting to liquidate the extra cash on gear, or launder it through their Corp before CCP could correct the mistake and take it back.
Rather than a case of money in your yard, a more accurate analogy would be that CCP is your bank, and they accidentally transfered money into your account. Whether you spend it or not, when they realize their mistake, they WILL take it back, even if it means a negative balance for you, even if you call a lawyer.
It was never your money to keep. You didn't earn it, and just because someone else screwed up, doesn't mean that you are entitled to it or deserve it.
Nobody should be "punished" for CCP's mistake, which is probably why they're being allowed to keep the stuff they bought. Sure, they're liquid assets might be negative, but the value of their new gear means that they're net worth should be exactly what Iit was before the mistake.
Nothing is being taken away from them that didn't belong to them in the first place.
While nobody should be punished for CCP's mistake, nobody should profit from it, either. |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
85
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 23:54:00 -
[90] - Quote
World ASSASSIN wrote:Not the case, I have 3 dust toons, only one spent isk the others didnt yet all my toons are now negative. Explain how that works lol wow me 2 |
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
798
|
Posted - 2013.05.30 23:55:00 -
[91] - Quote
[quote=Dark Deviser]If some ****** leaves a case full of millions in my yard and I happen to take it and invest it and spend it then thats some tough love buddy. You leave stuff on my property and expect its yours then you are strongly mistaken, I'll get my lawyer and well go to war./quote]
Try that in real life....
You would be in jail for a rather long time, and out of themoney. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
5
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 05:40:00 -
[92] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote:I have played numerous F2P games and when the Company made the mistake they would not Punish it's playerbase and as a PR move would not even dare to put players in a Negative ability or Restrict players to play their game Freely. As a Positive PR move the company would admit their mistake and say enjoy the gift.
What rubbish, every persistent world operator does rollbacks when widespread problems occur.
The rest of your post was pretty funny but I forgot most of it after I finished laughing. |
Shrapnels
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
58
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Posted - 2013.05.31 05:43:00 -
[93] - Quote
working towards getting an Editor from IGN to get involved |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
5
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 05:47:00 -
[94] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote:working towards getting an Editor from IGN to get involved
You might have more luck with an editor from some place that can really help. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2013.05.31 05:50:00 -
[95] - Quote
CCP is slowly drifting into Capcom territory. |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty EoN.
269
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 05:53:00 -
[96] - Quote
Cosgar's Alt wrote:CCP is slowly drifting into Capcom territory. Please dont insult Capcom by comparing CCP to them.... Capcom gave us many Resident evils (it is getting old with these latest release, but at least they are fully funcional games) and they have given us Dragons Dogma/Dark Arisen which is a damn good game.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
622
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Posted - 2013.05.31 05:57:00 -
[97] - Quote
Dark Deviser wrote:If some ****** leaves a case full of millions in my yard and I happen to take it and invest it and spend it then thats some tough love buddy. You leave stuff on my property and expect its yours then you are strongly mistaken, I'll get my lawyer and well go to war.
And you would lose. Like all the mentally challenged have lost their unearned ISK.
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona Gentlemen's Agreement
455
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 05:58:00 -
[98] - Quote
Dale Templar wrote:Unexceptable.
Unexcpectable. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1550
|
Posted - 2013.05.31 06:00:00 -
[99] - Quote
Otoky wrote:arimal lavaren wrote:CCP is taking advantage of you? more like the people that are more than 10 mil in debt took advantage the game "exploiting" a situation that was obviously not on the level. You guys just dont understant. NOT EVERYBODY SPEND THE EXTRA MONEY, BUT THEY STILL IN NEGATIVE BECAUSE CCP DELETED MORE MONEY! You are lucky if this new "mistake" dosnt touched you. Then file a petition and STFU |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
31
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:00:00 -
[100] - Quote
LOL at all the internet lawyers/conspiracy theorist/penniless jobseekers here who didn't read the EULA.
Good luck taking CCP to court, you can show us how you sue them for taking away something from you, that doesn't belong to you in the first place. |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1550
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:05:00 -
[101] - Quote
dustwaffle wrote:LOL at all the internet lawyers/conspiracy theorist/penniless jobseekers here who didn't read the EULA. Good luck taking CCP to court, you can show us how you sue them for taking away something from you, that doesn't belong to you in the first place.
As a matter of fact...
Quote:PROPRIETARY RIGHTS A. OWNERSHIP OF SOFTWARE, SYSTEM AND GAME As between you and CCP, CCP is the sole and exclusive owner of the Software, System, Game and Game Content (as defined below). The Software, System, Game and all Game Content are protected by law governing copyrights, trademarks and other proprietary rights. CCP reserves all rights not expressly stated herein.
The Game is comprised of, without limitation, software code, programs, routines, subroutines, objects, files, data, characters (and items, currency, objects and attributes comprising or associated with a character or an Account), graphics, sound effects, music, animation, video, text, content, layout, design and other information downloaded from and accessible through the System (collectively, the "Game Content"). CCP, its affiliates, licensors and/or suppliers retain all of their right, title and interest (including without limitation all intellectual property rights) in and to the Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and no rights thereto are transferred to you, except for the limited license granted above.
B. RIGHTS TO CERTAIN CONTENT You have no interest in the value of your time spent playing the Game, e.g., by the building up of the experience level of your character and the items your character accumulates during your time playing the Game. Your Account, and all attributes of your Account, including without limitation all corporations, actions, groups, titles and characters, and all objects, currency and items acquired, developed or delivered by or to characters as a result of play through your Accounts, are the sole and exclusive property of CCP, including any and all copyrights and other intellectual property rights in or to any and all of the same, all of which are hereby expressly reserved.
Without limiting its rights in any way, and subject to the other terms of the EULA, CCP shall have the right to display and publish any information (except certain User Personal Details in your Account) relating to any character in your Account, for example, in charts, lists and other compilations, without notice or any compensation to you whatsoever.
You hereby irrevocably, and without additional consideration beyond the rights granted to you herein, assign to CCP any and all right, title and interest you have, including copyrights, in or to any and all information you exchange, transmit or upload to the System or while playing the Game, including without limitation all files, data and information comprising or manifesting corporations, groups, titles, characters and other attributes of your Account, together with all objects and items acquired or developed by, or delivered by or to characters, in your Account. To the extent that any such rights are not assignable, you hereby grant CCP an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide, irrevocable, assignable, royalty-free license, fully sublicensable through multiple tiers, to exercise all intellectual property and other rights, in and to all or any part of such information, in any medium now known or hereafter developed.
QQ harder idiots |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1550
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:06:00 -
[102] - Quote
Again
Quote:You have no interest in the value of your time spent playing the Game, e.g., by the building up of the experience level of your character and the items your character accumulates during your time playing the Game. Your Account, and all attributes of your Account, including without limitation all corporations, actions, groups, titles and characters, and all objects, currency and items acquired, developed or delivered by or to characters as a result of play through your Accounts, are the sole and exclusive property of CCP, including any and all copyrights and other intellectual property rights in or to any and all of the same, all of which are hereby expressly reserved.
That ISK never belonged to you. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:06:00 -
[103] - Quote
Don Von Hulio wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:CCP is slowly drifting into Capcom territory. Please dont insult Capcom by comparing CCP to them.... Capcom gave us many Resident evils (it is getting old with these latest release, but at least they are fully funcional games) and they have given us Dragons Dogma/Dark Arisen which is a damn good game. I'm going to blame that on hormones or lack of knowledge of current events. Capcom has killed off their mascot, inner management is driving away the OGs that have been with them for decades like Keiji Inafune, they canceled a highly anticipated game and blamed it on their fan base, and don't get me started on how they've been caught red handed selling DLC which is in actuality a code to unlock data, already on the disc that you already shelled out $60 to pay for. CCP has their issues, but they're in better shape than Capcom and they only have two games. |
Stevez WingYip
Lumodynamics Power Control Corp Panda Cave
26
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:09:00 -
[104] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote:Dust514 is Marketed as a "Free to Play" (F2P) game. The only way to play Free is through ISK. There is Only 1 currency method that allows you to play Dust according to the "Free to Play" model. Its Not like you gave players AUR or the Paid method to play. I have played numerous F2P games and when the Company made the mistake they would not Punish it's playerbase and as a PR move would not even dare to put players in a Negative ability or Restrict players to play their game Freely. As a Positive PR move the company would admit their mistake and say enjoy the gift. Not everyone who plays Dust visits CCP forums. Nor should they have too. CCP neglected to use their own ingame launcher News section that they patched into Dust on Wed. May 22nd to inform ALL the Players who played Dust on May 28th and May 29th. As of today, May 30th, there is still No News update to inform the Players of CCP's own Mistake. The "pop-up" in game "Hot-Fix" notice on Tuesday May 28th NEVER informed the playerbase about there being an ISK issue with the player getting more then should!!!!!!!!!!! The fix was done 2 days later and not immediately !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Players should never be Punished for CCP's Mistakes. The company, CCP not the Players should be held Responsible for their own Mistakes. It is time for Us the Playerbase to take to the vast Media sources we have access too. YES Use FaceBook, Twitter and spread the word of this Injustice. Contact Editors of Media gaming Websites like IGN, GameSpot, GameTrailers, Sony, etc..... Everyone call SONY Customer Service Help line 1-800-345-7669 When I call CCP, I will be asking for a FULL Monetary reimbursement for ALL the Merc Packs I have bought. I No longer want to be apart of this atrocity if this is how CCP treats it's Playerbase. if it comes to this there will be a Class Action Lawsuit filed. We will Not allow CCP to take advantage of Us the Players. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ added Better Business Bureau info http://www.bbb.org/Make sure to File with them
I love CCP and have played EvE for many years but with this, it has gone too far here. There AT LEAST should have been an update that was seen everywhere and not just the forums, thankfully I knew there was a bug and my wallet was only out into -1.6m. However, I feel so sorry for people that actually are in debt over 60m. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1552
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:13:00 -
[105] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote:Dust514 is Marketed as a "Free to Play" (F2P) game. The only way to play Free is through ISK.
False, starter fits allow you to play. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
635
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:14:00 -
[106] - Quote
Are you stupid or something? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1563
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:20:00 -
[107] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote:CCP North America and White Wolf Publishing 250 East Ponce de Leon Avenue Suite 700 Decatur, GA 30030 USA Tel. (+1) 404-292-1819 www.white-wolf.comOpening hours: 9am-6pm Mon-Fri Headquarters CCP hf. Grandagar+¦ur 8 101 Reykjavik Iceland Tel: (+354) 540 9100 Fax: (+354) 540 9198 ID Number: 450697-3469 VSK Number: 54982 Opening hours: 9am-5pm Mon-Fri
Is this a public threat towards CCP employees? |
Starne
Planetary Response Organization
12
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:21:00 -
[108] - Quote
haha sucks to be some dumb @*** who just saw 200 mill isk add to there account and spent it like it was some thing they earned u got free isk and didnt think they would take it back haha. it like a credit card with no interest and u spent it now live with it NOOBS haha sides its not like u didnt get to keep what u got with it so quit cry over ever mistake and eat cake |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1563
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:25:00 -
[109] - Quote
DRE PrEaCh wrote:Do you people think we are SAINTS?
99% of people who get money, SPEND IT!
lol get real Being a dumbass is not a "get out of jail free" card |
bigolenuts
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.05.31 06:41:00 -
[110] - Quote
Shrapnels wrote:Dust514 is Marketed as a "Free to Play" (F2P) game. The only way to play Free is through ISK. AgreedThere is Only 1 currency method that allows you to play Dust according to the "Free to Play" model. Its Not like you gave players AUR or the Paid method to play. AgreedI have played numerous F2P games and when the Company made the mistake they would not Punish it's playerbase and as a PR move would not even dare to put players in a Negative ability or Restrict players to play their game Freely. As a Positive PR move the company would admit their mistake and say enjoy the gift. Have you ever played a F2P or FPS game like dust514 before? The indepthness and market?
Not everyone who plays Dust visits CCP forums. Nor should they have too. AgreedCCP neglected to use their own ingame launcher News section that they patched into Dust on Wed. May 22nd to inform ALL the Players who played Dust on May 28th and May 29th. As of today, May 30th, there is still No News update to inform the Players of CCP's own Mistake. The used in-game pop-up messages, the forums and word of mouth. How much more do you need?
The "pop-up" in game "Hot-Fix" notice on Tuesday May 28th NEVER informed the playerbase about there being an ISK issue with the player getting more then should!!!!!!!!!!! The fix was done 2 days later and not immediately !!!!!!!!!!!!!! You think they can just *snap* their fingers and this can be fixed? If so, keeo the ISK and fix other problems. Do I need to elaborate?The Players should never be Punished for CCP's Mistakes. No one was punishedThe company, CCP not the Players should be held Responsible for their own Mistakes. The are responsible and fixed it. Now you and others can accept your mistake and pay back the ISK you owe
It is time for Us the Playerbase to take to the vast Media sources we have access too. YES. If media resources are so "vast" to the playerbase, why were they not here seeing why they had millions of ISK at their disposal?Use FaceBook, Twitter and spread the word of this Injustice. What injustice?Contact Editors of Media gaming Websites like IGN, GameSpot, GameTrailers, Sony, etc..... Why, so they can laugh at you??Everyone call SONY Customer Service Help line 1-800-345-7669 Why, so they can make fun of you?When I call CCP, I will be asking for a FULL Monetary reimbursement for ALL the Merc Packs I have bought. I No longer want to be apart of this atrocity if this is how CCP treats it's Playerbase. So, you are now claiming you want REAL money back because you did not have the mental capability to find out why you had extra ISK?if it comes to this there will be a Class Action Lawsuit filed. By who? You really think you will win a judgement for 200 million ISK? Will the CPM be the judges?
We will Not allow CCP to take advantage of Us the Players. Yet CCP allows players, like yourself to keep gear you bought with funds you were not suppose to have putting players who have played by the rules at a disadvantage.~~~~~~~~~~~~~ added Better Business Bureau info http://www.bbb.org/Make sure to File with them Does the BBB have jurisdiction in Iceland?
To add; all that extra ISK should collapse the market. In a real world it would.
Let me ask you. If your bank puts say, 10K USD in your bank today and tomorrow you find it, is it yours to spend without paying back?
Also, all that extra ISK makes it easier on Corps to buy clone packs and such. Who wants that aside from the smaller corps struggling to stay in PC?
I personally had over 200 million in my account and laughed about it. I had a pretty good hunch that it would be leaving soon. Does common sense exist in your world OP or with anyone else that spent wildly and is now negative?
You OP and everyone else that spent or donated that ISK got exaclty what you deserved. If you leave, do it now. If you take it to court, PLEASE, PLEASE keep us ALL updated. I'd love to track this story!!
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Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
134
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Posted - 2013.05.31 07:18:00 -
[111] - Quote
24 likes? Guess how much my faith in humanity just dropped. |
bigolenuts
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
20
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Posted - 2013.05.31 07:22:00 -
[112] - Quote
Eltra Ardell wrote:24 likes? Guess how much my faith in humanity just dropped.
That just tells me that there were 25( the likes plus the OP) people/mercs who should not be in the negative today. They obviously come here if they can find the like button.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1606
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Posted - 2013.05.31 07:25:00 -
[113] - Quote
bigolenuts wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:24 likes? Guess how much my faith in humanity just dropped. That just tells me that there were 25( the likes plus the OP) people/mercs who should not be in the negative today. They obviously come here if they can find the like button. On the contrary, they should be in the negative x 10 |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
922
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Posted - 2013.05.31 07:40:00 -
[114] - Quote
Holy crap...
I am overwhelmed by the sheer volume and purity of these tears! Thank you, my supercap armada will now have the power it needs to make you all 20% more miserable over the coming fiscal year.
And to the OP:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Everybody point and laugh. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
135
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Posted - 2013.05.31 07:41:00 -
[115] - Quote
bigolenuts wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:24 likes? Guess how much my faith in humanity just dropped. That just tells me that there were 25( the likes plus the OP) people/mercs who should not be in the negative today. They obviously come here if they can find the like button. If they spent more ISK than was theirs, that's their issue. |
Herli Pascal
Noir. Planetary Regiment
49
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Posted - 2013.05.31 07:45:00 -
[116] - Quote
Does anybody have some popcorn? I ran out. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1607
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Posted - 2013.05.31 07:50:00 -
[117] - Quote
Herli Pascal wrote:Does anybody have some popcorn? I ran out. I couldn't believe it wasn't butter. |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star. EoN.
32
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Posted - 2013.05.31 08:04:00 -
[118] - Quote
If DUST had a social hierarchy based on wealth Upper class- isk to play with > Upper middle class- high return on margin > Middle class- small proft but self-sufficient nonetheless > Worker class- working up to self sufficiency with starter gear > The Village Idiot- ......... > The guys in the negative |
Kosakai
CHON THE R0NIN
0
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Posted - 2013.05.31 08:46:00 -
[119] - Quote
only fool can spend all his "free" ISK .... cause nothink is free |
Imp Smash
On The Brink CRONOS.
112
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:02:00 -
[120] - Quote
I have to agree with most of the posters. You got free isk. You knew it was a glitch. You thought "hey ill spend it all fast so they can't take it back". You went into the red. You are pissed that you didn't get away with cheating.
If you spent all that isk than you can use the assets that you bought until you go positive again.
I agree that putting people into the negative ain't the best. All transactions being reversed would have been best. However if they didn't do it its because they probably couldn't. Run free fits, grind your isk, and quit crying for attempting what amounts to stealing g.
Yes there were glitches in the balance reset. Some people had more taken away than given. Open a ticket and they will fix it. |
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
146
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:09:00 -
[121] - Quote
Your bank accidentally puts too much money on your bank account and you spend it. The bank finds out the mistake and wants the money back. What-¦s gonna happen?
The mentality on this forum is shocking sometimes and time for some of you to grow up. |
ShakeMS
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:18:00 -
[122] - Quote
Imp Smash wrote:I have to agree with most of the posters. You got free isk. You knew it was a glitch. You thought "hey ill spend it all fast so they can't take it back". You went into the red. You are pissed that you didn't get away with cheating.
If you spent all that isk than you can use the assets that you bought until you go positive again.
I agree that putting people into the negative ain't the best. All transactions being reversed would have been best. However if they didn't do it its because they probably couldn't. Run free fits, grind your isk, and quit crying for attempting what amounts to stealing g.
Yes there were glitches in the balance reset. Some people had more taken away than given. Open a ticket and they will fix it.
They can just fill out a ticket and CCP will buy back all the stuff they tried to cheat away with and get their ISK back. |
steadyhand amarr
Amarr Imortal volunteers
643
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:18:00 -
[123] - Quote
You have not lost that isk its current sat in your assets as stuff your argument is invalid |
Imp Smash
On The Brink CRONOS.
112
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:26:00 -
[124] - Quote
Dark Deviser wrote:If some ****** leaves a case full of millions in my yard and I happen to take it and invest it and spend it then thats some tough love buddy. You leave stuff on my property and expect its yours then you are strongly mistaken, I'll get my lawyer and well go to war.
And for the record there is a word for that. It's called 'larceny'.
ShakeMS wrote:Imp Smash wrote:I have to agree with most of the posters. You got free isk. You knew it was a glitch. You thought "hey ill spend it all fast so they can't take it back". You went into the red. You are pissed that you didn't get away with cheating.
If you spent all that isk than you can use the assets that you bought until you go positive again.
I agree that putting people into the negative ain't the best. All transactions being reversed would have been best. However if they didn't do it its because they probably couldn't. Run free fits, grind your isk, and quit crying for attempting what amounts to stealing g.
Yes there were glitches in the balance reset. Some people had more taken away than given. Open a ticket and they will fix it. They can just fill out a ticket and CCP will buy back all the stuff they tried to cheat away with and get their ISK back.
Also - this. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
283
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:45:00 -
[125] - Quote
the account is property of CCP and they can do whatever they want and you are not supposed to have benefits from a bug. it was pretty obvious what will happen with the extra isk. imagine what would happen if you got money on your bank account by mistake and the bank takes it back, negative wallet.
anyway, the isk is not gone, you have it as assets or in the wallet of your corp, thus all your arguments are invalid. in short: your tears are delicious, adapt or go play tetris. |
ShakeMS
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:04:00 -
[126] - Quote
I wish they would of remained strong and tell the people who tried to cheat to suck it up or leave. The best way to prevent nerds from cheating is to teach them a lesson. However if you can attempt to cheat day in day out and just fill out a ticket when you're caught I guess it will encourage them to keep up their shady ways. |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
25
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:09:00 -
[127] - Quote
hamual jackson wrote:Question why are those complaining about negative isk upset. Didnt they buy a ton of useful gear?
why do all u guys assume the all the people in the negitive bought only gear, suits, and vehicles; what if they bought clone packs for their corp how are you supposed to get ur isk back from that??? |
Rogue Saint
Limited Liability
9
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:22:00 -
[128] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:Are you really that brainless?
You talk about ISK being the way this game stays free, so what happens when you get a crapload of it for no reason and you spend it all?
You expect to keep everything you spent AND keep all the ISK too?
If you want to do something, petition to have allt he stuff you bought taken away in return for having your ISK set back to what it was.
If you lost too much, petition that and they'll fix it.
You're like those ******** asshats that danced around chanting "CONSPIRACY" during the Incarna debacle. The same ones that gave themselves a pat on the back when a lot of CCP were laid off when that wasn't even due to the protests.
Grow up, sober up, whatever. Take your bullshit somewhere else and be an adult.
QFT.
Those that spent/donated the "free" ISK were at fault for their own stupidity. Stop the QQ and petition.
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
799
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:27:00 -
[129] - Quote
HTFU |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
544
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:31:00 -
[130] - Quote
If it's confirmed some players went negative even though they didn't spend the ISK or even play the game then I'll listen to people's crap. Until then you're an idiot if you spent the money and you get no sympathy from me. |
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
42
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:36:00 -
[131] - Quote
Sloth9230 wrote:DRE PrEaCh wrote:Do you people think we are SAINTS?
99% of people who get money, SPEND IT!
lol get real Being a dumbass is not a "get out of jail free" card
LOL!!! F-ing classic right here.... best line of this whole thread!!
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Orion Vahid
DUST University Ivy League
8
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:38:00 -
[132] - Quote
So...you saw you had a crapton of extra ISK, you KNEW it was a glitch, you WERE told not to spent it, you did it anyway and now it's CCP's fault? |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
560
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:40:00 -
[133] - Quote
Maybe you shouldn't have speant all that isk on Protogear and skills as soon as it appeared.
Just sayin' |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:40:00 -
[134] - Quote
The QQ in this thread is just absolutely amazing, so much so I had to bump to give others a chance to enjoy it. |
Denak Kalamari
BurgezzE.T.F
174
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:43:00 -
[135] - Quote
So suddenly exploiting a glitch should now be compensated for? |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1753
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:44:00 -
[136] - Quote
Obodiah Garro wrote:The QQ in this thread is just absolutely amazing, so much so I had to bump to give others a chance to enjoy it. It is pretty damn delicious.
I actually have a friend of mine who spent the 2 mil he ended up with, but he hadn't logged back in to see his wallet was now negative. I explained to him what to expect, and he responded pretty simply.
"Whoops. Guess I shouldn't have done that."
He's 16 by the way. The people in this thread need to grow the **** up. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
215
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:00:00 -
[137] - Quote
Sir Meode wrote:here, have a tissue
I need a hell og a big tissue sorting out my negative lol |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1612
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Posted - 2013.05.31 15:23:00 -
[138] - Quote
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:hamual jackson wrote:Question why are those complaining about negative isk upset. Didnt they buy a ton of useful gear? why do all u guys assume the all the people in the negitive bought only gear, suits, and vehicles; what if they bought clone packs for their corp how are you supposed to get ur isk back from that??? Then your corp now has more clones, congratulations...dumbass |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
25
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:27:00 -
[139] - Quote
THE WHOLE POINT OF TH MATTER IS CCP PUT ISK IN OUR WALLETS AND EXPECTED US NOT TO SPENDNIT WITHOUT EFFECTIVLY TELLING US NOT TO SPEND IT, WHAT THE HELL IS SO HARD ABOUT USING THE NEWS SECTION OF THAT CRAPASS LAUNCHER OR SENDING OUT A FREAKIN MAIL, TTHEY COULDNT HAVE EXPECTEDTHAT EVERYONE WHO SPENT THE ISK TO HAVE BEEN IN A BATTLE OR TROLLING THE FOURMS WHEN THEY DUMPED THAT ISK OUT INTO OUR ACCOUNTS!!! YOU ASSWIPES BLAMING PLAYERS FOR CCP`s MISTAKE ARE PROBLY THE SAME WHINY ASSES WHO CRIED ABOUT WANTING THE RESPEC THAT CAUSED ALL THIS BULLSHIT IN HE FIRSTPLACE!!! |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1620
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:33:00 -
[140] - Quote
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:THE WHOLE POINT OF TH MATTER IS CCP PUT ISK IN OUR WALLETS AND EXPECTED US NOT TO SPENDNIT WITHOUT EFFECTIVLY TELLING US NOT TO SPEND IT, WHAT THE HELL IS SO HARD ABOUT USING THE NEWS SECTION OF THAT CRAPASS LAUNCHER OR SENDING OUT A FREAKIN MAIL, TTHEY COULDNT HAVE EXPECTEDTHAT EVERYONE WHO SPENT THE ISK TO HAVE BEEN IN A BATTLE OR TROLLING THE FOURMS WHEN THEY DUMPED THAT ISK OUT INTO OUR ACCOUNTS!!! YOU ASSWIPES BLAMING PLAYERS FOR CCP`s MISTAKE ARE PROBLY THE SAME WHINY ASSES WHO CRIED ABOUT WANTING THE RESPEC THAT CAUSED ALL THIS BULLSHIT IN HE FIRSTPLACE!!!
You are a dumbass.
People should have been more careful when they speced? Yes. You should have been more careful with your ISK, dumbass. |
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The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
343
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:33:00 -
[141] - Quote
These QQ threads make my eyes feel like my ears after my wife comes home whining about her day. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
78
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:53:00 -
[142] - Quote
I didnt bother reading all the QQ yet.. my popcorns still popping
one point of noteworthy mention, CCP made a mistake by giving isk... PLAYER BASE made a mistake by not using their brain cell to process that they had more isk than they should.
my case, 153m ISK before downtime, 312 after downtime. i saw red flags from the char selection screen. others might not have had such major flags as mine. red flag 1: clearly wrong isk balance on char select screen i got into game, checked skill tree, to see if i had gotten respec'd that morning, SP remained allocated, but isk was excessive. red flag 2: no respec, did they reimburse isk by mistake? i then checked my assets to figure out why i had this isk. everythings still there. red flag 3: no market buy back i checked my wallet to see if there were any event payout transactions, and the latest transaction entry still listed wallet balance at 153m. red flag 4: no wallet entry explaining it
if someone managed to go over 5m negative, and i feel i am being generous with this number, they are probably terrible at this game and should have noticed a red flag somewhere. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1764
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:01:00 -
[143] - Quote
SuperKing BigNuts wrote:I didnt bother reading all the QQ yet.. my popcorns still popping
one point of noteworthy mention, CCP made a mistake by giving isk... PLAYER BASE made a mistake by not using their brain cell to process that they had more isk than they should.
my case, 153m ISK before downtime, 312 after downtime. i saw red flags from the char selection screen. others might not have had such major flags as mine. red flag 1: clearly wrong isk balance on char select screen i got into game, checked skill tree, to see if i had gotten respec'd that morning, SP remained allocated, but isk was excessive. red flag 2: no respec, did they reimburse isk by mistake? i then checked my assets to figure out why i had this isk. everythings still there. red flag 3: no market buy back i checked my wallet to see if there were any event payout transactions, and the latest transaction entry still listed wallet balance at 153m. red flag 4: no wallet entry explaining it
if someone managed to go over 5m negative, and i feel i am being generous with this number, they are probably terrible at this game and should have noticed a red flag somewhere. And now you'll be classified as a CCP dickrider and apologist who should never be listened to because you aren't jumping on the RAGETHREAD bandwagon. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
79
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:06:00 -
[144] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:SuperKing BigNuts wrote:I didnt bother reading all the QQ yet.. my popcorns still popping
one point of noteworthy mention, CCP made a mistake by giving isk... PLAYER BASE made a mistake by not using their brain cell to process that they had more isk than they should.
my case, 153m ISK before downtime, 312 after downtime. i saw red flags from the char selection screen. others might not have had such major flags as mine. red flag 1: clearly wrong isk balance on char select screen i got into game, checked skill tree, to see if i had gotten respec'd that morning, SP remained allocated, but isk was excessive. red flag 2: no respec, did they reimburse isk by mistake? i then checked my assets to figure out why i had this isk. everythings still there. red flag 3: no market buy back i checked my wallet to see if there were any event payout transactions, and the latest transaction entry still listed wallet balance at 153m. red flag 4: no wallet entry explaining it
if someone managed to go over 5m negative, and i feel i am being generous with this number, they are probably terrible at this game and should have noticed a red flag somewhere. And now you'll be classified as a CCP dickrider and apologist who should never be listened to because you aren't jumping on the RAGETHREAD bandwagon.
call me what you wish, but im still tired of the proto spam we face after the buyback. just when i thought we might be reaching an end after a month of suffering |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
49
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:06:00 -
[145] - Quote
GM Grave wrote:Dear players, at 11:00 UTC on the 28th of May, an issue occurred where some players were credited with ISK. As this ISK was an unintended error it was removed from the game as of 11:00 UTC on the 30th of May. As a result of this issue a number of characters entered negative ISK balance due to over-spending. As a temporary measure we have now taken steps to revert affected characters back to 0 ISK in order to allow them to continue playing as normal In the meantime we are working on a system to reclaim ISK from over-spending that will review player purchases and corp donation histories on a case by case basis in order to fairly correct each characters ISK wallet and assets as soon as possible. While it may take some time to apply these changes we will contact affected users once we have rebalanced their ISK status to let them know that there should be no further adjustments. As always players are welcome to contact CCP via our support system with any concerns they may have. https://dust514.com/user/help-tickets/On behalf of the DUST 514 team please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused. [ Lead GM Grave | Project Lead | CCP Customer Relations | EVE Online | DUST 514 ]
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=889370#post889370 |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
534
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:07:00 -
[146] - Quote
its ok all of Betamax is bunch of exploiters so nothing really to listen from them ever. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
79
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:12:00 -
[147] - Quote
as for the CCP efforts GM Grave listed, how much manpower is going into this to fix this... because people are unwilling to accept the consequences of their actions, the rest of us are losing potential fixes to other problems.
i feel that if someone has that big of an issue with being negative, they should get the option of farming their way out or a total assets wipe to zero them out. flag them like they have with the respecs(which some of us are STILL waiting on, 17 days and counting), and start flipping switches to zero out their wallets and assets to get them back to a 'playable' wallet balance. saves the super indebted from having to lose their SP since they obviously cant live without their proto spam that they put themselves that far in the red financially. |
Shrapnels
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
72
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:50:00 -
[148] - Quote
Now CCP has taken consumable items from me that were bought in the Merc Packs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Desivo Delta
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:16:00 -
[149] - Quote
MOAR TEARS!!!
They are delicious and warm my cold dark heart. Tell me more about how upset/sad/enraged you are some that pixels have lied to you. |
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