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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
146
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:09:00 -
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Your bank accidentally puts too much money on your bank account and you spend it. The bank finds out the mistake and wants the money back. What-¦s gonna happen?
The mentality on this forum is shocking sometimes and time for some of you to grow up. |
ShakeMS
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:18:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:I have to agree with most of the posters. You got free isk. You knew it was a glitch. You thought "hey ill spend it all fast so they can't take it back". You went into the red. You are pissed that you didn't get away with cheating.
If you spent all that isk than you can use the assets that you bought until you go positive again.
I agree that putting people into the negative ain't the best. All transactions being reversed would have been best. However if they didn't do it its because they probably couldn't. Run free fits, grind your isk, and quit crying for attempting what amounts to stealing g.
Yes there were glitches in the balance reset. Some people had more taken away than given. Open a ticket and they will fix it.
They can just fill out a ticket and CCP will buy back all the stuff they tried to cheat away with and get their ISK back. |
steadyhand amarr
Amarr Imortal volunteers
643
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:18:00 -
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You have not lost that isk its current sat in your assets as stuff your argument is invalid |
Imp Smash
On The Brink CRONOS.
112
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:26:00 -
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Dark Deviser wrote:If some ****** leaves a case full of millions in my yard and I happen to take it and invest it and spend it then thats some tough love buddy. You leave stuff on my property and expect its yours then you are strongly mistaken, I'll get my lawyer and well go to war.
And for the record there is a word for that. It's called 'larceny'.
ShakeMS wrote:Imp Smash wrote:I have to agree with most of the posters. You got free isk. You knew it was a glitch. You thought "hey ill spend it all fast so they can't take it back". You went into the red. You are pissed that you didn't get away with cheating.
If you spent all that isk than you can use the assets that you bought until you go positive again.
I agree that putting people into the negative ain't the best. All transactions being reversed would have been best. However if they didn't do it its because they probably couldn't. Run free fits, grind your isk, and quit crying for attempting what amounts to stealing g.
Yes there were glitches in the balance reset. Some people had more taken away than given. Open a ticket and they will fix it. They can just fill out a ticket and CCP will buy back all the stuff they tried to cheat away with and get their ISK back.
Also - this. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
283
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:45:00 -
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the account is property of CCP and they can do whatever they want and you are not supposed to have benefits from a bug. it was pretty obvious what will happen with the extra isk. imagine what would happen if you got money on your bank account by mistake and the bank takes it back, negative wallet.
anyway, the isk is not gone, you have it as assets or in the wallet of your corp, thus all your arguments are invalid. in short: your tears are delicious, adapt or go play tetris. |
ShakeMS
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:04:00 -
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I wish they would of remained strong and tell the people who tried to cheat to suck it up or leave. The best way to prevent nerds from cheating is to teach them a lesson. However if you can attempt to cheat day in day out and just fill out a ticket when you're caught I guess it will encourage them to keep up their shady ways. |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
25
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:09:00 -
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hamual jackson wrote:Question why are those complaining about negative isk upset. Didnt they buy a ton of useful gear?
why do all u guys assume the all the people in the negitive bought only gear, suits, and vehicles; what if they bought clone packs for their corp how are you supposed to get ur isk back from that??? |
Rogue Saint
Limited Liability
9
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:22:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Are you really that brainless?
You talk about ISK being the way this game stays free, so what happens when you get a crapload of it for no reason and you spend it all?
You expect to keep everything you spent AND keep all the ISK too?
If you want to do something, petition to have allt he stuff you bought taken away in return for having your ISK set back to what it was.
If you lost too much, petition that and they'll fix it.
You're like those ******** asshats that danced around chanting "CONSPIRACY" during the Incarna debacle. The same ones that gave themselves a pat on the back when a lot of CCP were laid off when that wasn't even due to the protests.
Grow up, sober up, whatever. Take your bullshit somewhere else and be an adult.
QFT.
Those that spent/donated the "free" ISK were at fault for their own stupidity. Stop the QQ and petition.
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
799
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:27:00 -
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HTFU |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
544
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:31:00 -
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If it's confirmed some players went negative even though they didn't spend the ISK or even play the game then I'll listen to people's crap. Until then you're an idiot if you spent the money and you get no sympathy from me. |
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
42
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:36:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:DRE PrEaCh wrote:Do you people think we are SAINTS?
99% of people who get money, SPEND IT!
lol get real Being a dumbass is not a "get out of jail free" card
LOL!!! F-ing classic right here.... best line of this whole thread!!
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Orion Vahid
DUST University Ivy League
8
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:38:00 -
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So...you saw you had a crapton of extra ISK, you KNEW it was a glitch, you WERE told not to spent it, you did it anyway and now it's CCP's fault? |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
560
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Posted - 2013.05.31 10:40:00 -
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Maybe you shouldn't have speant all that isk on Protogear and skills as soon as it appeared.
Just sayin' |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
45
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:40:00 -
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The QQ in this thread is just absolutely amazing, so much so I had to bump to give others a chance to enjoy it. |
Denak Kalamari
BurgezzE.T.F
174
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:43:00 -
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So suddenly exploiting a glitch should now be compensated for? |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1753
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:44:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:The QQ in this thread is just absolutely amazing, so much so I had to bump to give others a chance to enjoy it. It is pretty damn delicious.
I actually have a friend of mine who spent the 2 mil he ended up with, but he hadn't logged back in to see his wallet was now negative. I explained to him what to expect, and he responded pretty simply.
"Whoops. Guess I shouldn't have done that."
He's 16 by the way. The people in this thread need to grow the **** up. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY
215
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:00:00 -
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Sir Meode wrote:here, have a tissue
I need a hell og a big tissue sorting out my negative lol |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1612
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Posted - 2013.05.31 15:23:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:hamual jackson wrote:Question why are those complaining about negative isk upset. Didnt they buy a ton of useful gear? why do all u guys assume the all the people in the negitive bought only gear, suits, and vehicles; what if they bought clone packs for their corp how are you supposed to get ur isk back from that??? Then your corp now has more clones, congratulations...dumbass |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
25
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:27:00 -
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THE WHOLE POINT OF TH MATTER IS CCP PUT ISK IN OUR WALLETS AND EXPECTED US NOT TO SPENDNIT WITHOUT EFFECTIVLY TELLING US NOT TO SPEND IT, WHAT THE HELL IS SO HARD ABOUT USING THE NEWS SECTION OF THAT CRAPASS LAUNCHER OR SENDING OUT A FREAKIN MAIL, TTHEY COULDNT HAVE EXPECTEDTHAT EVERYONE WHO SPENT THE ISK TO HAVE BEEN IN A BATTLE OR TROLLING THE FOURMS WHEN THEY DUMPED THAT ISK OUT INTO OUR ACCOUNTS!!! YOU ASSWIPES BLAMING PLAYERS FOR CCP`s MISTAKE ARE PROBLY THE SAME WHINY ASSES WHO CRIED ABOUT WANTING THE RESPEC THAT CAUSED ALL THIS BULLSHIT IN HE FIRSTPLACE!!! |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS
1620
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:33:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:THE WHOLE POINT OF TH MATTER IS CCP PUT ISK IN OUR WALLETS AND EXPECTED US NOT TO SPENDNIT WITHOUT EFFECTIVLY TELLING US NOT TO SPEND IT, WHAT THE HELL IS SO HARD ABOUT USING THE NEWS SECTION OF THAT CRAPASS LAUNCHER OR SENDING OUT A FREAKIN MAIL, TTHEY COULDNT HAVE EXPECTEDTHAT EVERYONE WHO SPENT THE ISK TO HAVE BEEN IN A BATTLE OR TROLLING THE FOURMS WHEN THEY DUMPED THAT ISK OUT INTO OUR ACCOUNTS!!! YOU ASSWIPES BLAMING PLAYERS FOR CCP`s MISTAKE ARE PROBLY THE SAME WHINY ASSES WHO CRIED ABOUT WANTING THE RESPEC THAT CAUSED ALL THIS BULLSHIT IN HE FIRSTPLACE!!!
You are a dumbass.
People should have been more careful when they speced? Yes. You should have been more careful with your ISK, dumbass. |
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The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
343
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:33:00 -
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These QQ threads make my eyes feel like my ears after my wife comes home whining about her day. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
78
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:53:00 -
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I didnt bother reading all the QQ yet.. my popcorns still popping
one point of noteworthy mention, CCP made a mistake by giving isk... PLAYER BASE made a mistake by not using their brain cell to process that they had more isk than they should.
my case, 153m ISK before downtime, 312 after downtime. i saw red flags from the char selection screen. others might not have had such major flags as mine. red flag 1: clearly wrong isk balance on char select screen i got into game, checked skill tree, to see if i had gotten respec'd that morning, SP remained allocated, but isk was excessive. red flag 2: no respec, did they reimburse isk by mistake? i then checked my assets to figure out why i had this isk. everythings still there. red flag 3: no market buy back i checked my wallet to see if there were any event payout transactions, and the latest transaction entry still listed wallet balance at 153m. red flag 4: no wallet entry explaining it
if someone managed to go over 5m negative, and i feel i am being generous with this number, they are probably terrible at this game and should have noticed a red flag somewhere. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1764
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:01:00 -
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SuperKing BigNuts wrote:I didnt bother reading all the QQ yet.. my popcorns still popping
one point of noteworthy mention, CCP made a mistake by giving isk... PLAYER BASE made a mistake by not using their brain cell to process that they had more isk than they should.
my case, 153m ISK before downtime, 312 after downtime. i saw red flags from the char selection screen. others might not have had such major flags as mine. red flag 1: clearly wrong isk balance on char select screen i got into game, checked skill tree, to see if i had gotten respec'd that morning, SP remained allocated, but isk was excessive. red flag 2: no respec, did they reimburse isk by mistake? i then checked my assets to figure out why i had this isk. everythings still there. red flag 3: no market buy back i checked my wallet to see if there were any event payout transactions, and the latest transaction entry still listed wallet balance at 153m. red flag 4: no wallet entry explaining it
if someone managed to go over 5m negative, and i feel i am being generous with this number, they are probably terrible at this game and should have noticed a red flag somewhere. And now you'll be classified as a CCP dickrider and apologist who should never be listened to because you aren't jumping on the RAGETHREAD bandwagon. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
79
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:06:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:SuperKing BigNuts wrote:I didnt bother reading all the QQ yet.. my popcorns still popping
one point of noteworthy mention, CCP made a mistake by giving isk... PLAYER BASE made a mistake by not using their brain cell to process that they had more isk than they should.
my case, 153m ISK before downtime, 312 after downtime. i saw red flags from the char selection screen. others might not have had such major flags as mine. red flag 1: clearly wrong isk balance on char select screen i got into game, checked skill tree, to see if i had gotten respec'd that morning, SP remained allocated, but isk was excessive. red flag 2: no respec, did they reimburse isk by mistake? i then checked my assets to figure out why i had this isk. everythings still there. red flag 3: no market buy back i checked my wallet to see if there were any event payout transactions, and the latest transaction entry still listed wallet balance at 153m. red flag 4: no wallet entry explaining it
if someone managed to go over 5m negative, and i feel i am being generous with this number, they are probably terrible at this game and should have noticed a red flag somewhere. And now you'll be classified as a CCP dickrider and apologist who should never be listened to because you aren't jumping on the RAGETHREAD bandwagon.
call me what you wish, but im still tired of the proto spam we face after the buyback. just when i thought we might be reaching an end after a month of suffering |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
49
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:06:00 -
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GM Grave wrote:Dear players, at 11:00 UTC on the 28th of May, an issue occurred where some players were credited with ISK. As this ISK was an unintended error it was removed from the game as of 11:00 UTC on the 30th of May. As a result of this issue a number of characters entered negative ISK balance due to over-spending. As a temporary measure we have now taken steps to revert affected characters back to 0 ISK in order to allow them to continue playing as normal In the meantime we are working on a system to reclaim ISK from over-spending that will review player purchases and corp donation histories on a case by case basis in order to fairly correct each characters ISK wallet and assets as soon as possible. While it may take some time to apply these changes we will contact affected users once we have rebalanced their ISK status to let them know that there should be no further adjustments. As always players are welcome to contact CCP via our support system with any concerns they may have. https://dust514.com/user/help-tickets/On behalf of the DUST 514 team please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused. [ Lead GM Grave | Project Lead | CCP Customer Relations | EVE Online | DUST 514 ]
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=889370#post889370 |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
534
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:07:00 -
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its ok all of Betamax is bunch of exploiters so nothing really to listen from them ever. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
79
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:12:00 -
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as for the CCP efforts GM Grave listed, how much manpower is going into this to fix this... because people are unwilling to accept the consequences of their actions, the rest of us are losing potential fixes to other problems.
i feel that if someone has that big of an issue with being negative, they should get the option of farming their way out or a total assets wipe to zero them out. flag them like they have with the respecs(which some of us are STILL waiting on, 17 days and counting), and start flipping switches to zero out their wallets and assets to get them back to a 'playable' wallet balance. saves the super indebted from having to lose their SP since they obviously cant live without their proto spam that they put themselves that far in the red financially. |
Shrapnels
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
72
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:50:00 -
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Now CCP has taken consumable items from me that were bought in the Merc Packs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Desivo Delta
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:16:00 -
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MOAR TEARS!!!
They are delicious and warm my cold dark heart. Tell me more about how upset/sad/enraged you are some that pixels have lied to you. |
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