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Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:03:00 -
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Dear CCP,
Don't you have enough people fed up with this game already? You do realize, that 95% of the people you sent into ISK debt, will NEVER play this game again. I didn't go negative, but I am among the minority of the players you have. I come here on the forums daily, to find out what's going on. Most players don't. Most players just want to turn on their PS3 and play. They saw the extra ISK and thought it was part of the respec like before. As a matter of fact for the first week or more in your response letters to submitting a Respec Ticket you said you were going to refund ISK I'll quote my response from you:
"The skill respec will be applied to your characters in the coming days once we have completed and deployed changes to the skill tree. This one time respec will remove and refund all ISK and skill points that have been applied to date."
So I get taking back the extra ISK, even sending people to 0 ISK, but negative? No one is going to use free suits to dig their way out of millions to 10's of millions of ISK debt, they are just going to move on to a new game.
Your meager offer to have someone submit a ticket and have some of thier inventory turned back into ISK, is a tedious process, that won't help most people because they spent that ISK on everything from Protosuits, to Tanks. Then had those items destroyed by people like me. Some people donated alot to their corp who spent that ISK on PC. So, most of that ISK is gone, and can't be refunded. For a company who's general motto is if you can do it in the game then it's allowed, you are going against everything you believe in, by doing what you did.
People went on a spending spree, but it was your fault.
Take the extra ISK but anyone you sent into DEBT, needs to be set to ZERO ISK not NEGATIVE. If you don't I am pretty sure outer space wont be the only place in a vacuum. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
37
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:12:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:
ONLY if assets are removed to return them to that level.
You want them to keep all their stuff and not be in the hole? **** that.
The forums were glitching I meant to say Take their ISK and stuff, but if it doesn't bring them back to Zero, set them to Zero.
I fixed the OP. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
38
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:19:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:People had the money, what, two days? And they binged it to the extent in that time they are now so in debt it's not worth playing?
What the **** did you spend that much money on if you can't survive on it now? Did you all go cokebinge and dropships?
Have you been playing the last 2 days? People were calling in Dropships/Tanks only to have them blown up then they called in more. In one game I played over 20 tanks were killed. It was fun and we benefited from blowing them up.
Try this give a kid a bag of candy and tell them not to eat it for 2 days. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
39
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:51:00 -
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pseudosnipre wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:As an adult, I understand that spending money that isn't mine, can only create debt.
Welcome to life folks...!!!! 10/10 for your attempts to hide from it. +1 for accountability, although those who spent their isk in ignorance, dont lurk the forums, and legitimately quit when they see their wallet displayed in red will be missed. Lets not forget that our long-term goal is to make the battle-grisled, forum-dwelling vets a minority through new player influx, after all. ...and without a CCP psa displayed during boot sequence, expect local/corp channels to strobe more than usual this week. 
New Player influx, now that's funny! Very few new players are going to join the game. One a few are willing to get raped for a month (or more) while they work their way past the starting 500k sp. Battle Academy Only shields them for their first 10,000 WP. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
39
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Posted - 2013.05.30 15:57:00 -
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sgtBelson wrote:
"The skill respec will be applied to your characters in the coming days once we have completed and deployed changes to the skill tree. This one time respec will remove and refund all ISK and skill points that have been applied to date."
*snip*
This is a great example of 'selective reading'. Taking the 3 bolded words on their own would imply that all ISK spent to date would be refunded. However, in the context of the Skill Tree changes that were forthcoming at the time, one should have inferred that it was to be only ISK spent on skillbooks coming back to you.
Alas, inference is a talent that is obviously beyond some players.
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There is no way anyone would read this and "infer" that you were just getting your Skillbook ISK back. Everyone that read this thought that they would lose all their stuff and get the ISK value for it, like they did a week or two ago. CCP was planning on doing a full SP/ISK refund, until they thought about it and changed their mind, and made post a week later saying it would be only skillbook ISK that would be refunded. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
39
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:03:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:
This is akin to saying that players found exploiting glitches shouldn't be punished.
That is EXACTLY what CCP's policy is on glitching. Unless they are hacking the game, anything you can do in game is legal. You ever heard of someone being kicked for Head Glitching, or sitting in the MCC? NO!
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Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
39
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:27:00 -
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sgtBelson wrote:
So, then you DID know it was only the skillbook ISK that was to be refunded? I see...
I never said I was confused, I am not negitive. I read the forums I know whats going on. I was giving an example of how people could be confused, because most players DON'T READ THE FORUMS. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
43
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:46:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Hawkin P wrote:Buster Friently wrote:
This is akin to saying that players found exploiting glitches shouldn't be punished.
That is EXACTLY what CCP's policy is on glitching. Unless they are hacking the game, anything you can do in game is legal. You ever heard of someone being kicked for Head Glitching, or sitting in the MCC? NO! LOL. Let me know when you find a glitch and exploit it. You seem to not have looked very far for CCP's stance on things. Do a lookup on Bot mining as just one example.
I don't play EVE. In dust no one has been banned for exploiting glitches. How many people used the broken Damage mods glitch, Head glitches, people don't get banned for sitting in the MCC all day and not play. they don't even get a slap on the wrist. |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
46
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Posted - 2013.05.30 19:25:00 -
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ShakeMS wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Let them petition to return their stuff to the DUST Market for a refund. But only for 30 days after purchase, and only if it is undamaged and in the original packaging. No letting them off clean should not happen. People don't learn lessons this way. Cheaters should be punished.
Cheaters? Who cheated? People that spent money that was in their own wallet? What is the lesson to be learned that you can't trust CCP to do anything right?
It was CCP's mistake, no one cheated, glitched, or exploited a glitch. All they did was spent money in their wallet. |
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